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smart enough for massachusetts school of law?

Post by 03152016 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:05 pm

the massachusetts school of law does not require an lsat score
instead they have created their own very ingenious test
that tests all the skills necessary to becoming a real life lawyer
they have cleverly named this test the mslat

you can view a sample mslat here:
http://mslaw.edu/wp-content/uploads/201 ... attern.pdf

what does everyone think of this admissions test
do u think u could master this rigorous exam
and more importantly, should fred franklin be admitted to msl

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Post by chuckbass » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:22 pm

mslat wrote:In answering the foregoing two questions, please be aware that every fact in the above fact pattern bears on whether Fred should be admitted to MSL or denied admission. In other words, no fact is extraneous.
>50% of the facts are extraneous and should have no bearing on MSL's decision to admit Fred. Fred should be admitted however considering that he completed college, when it looks like MSL is targeting 7th grade reading/writing proficiency.

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Post by donewithannarbor » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:38 pm

WTF?

Does the ABA approve of this test?

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Post by fratstar1 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:49 pm

I'm just glad Eva forgave him.

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Post by ScottRiqui » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:55 pm

donewithannarbor wrote:WTF?

Does the ABA approve of this test?
Well, MSL isn't ABA-accredited, so it doesn't really matter - the school could grant/deny admission based on a game of flip-cup if they wanted to.

The pissing match between the ABA and MSL is long and interesting.

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Post by phillywc » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:01 pm

fratstar1 wrote:I'm just glad Eva forgave him.
Nervy moments before she did.

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Post by chuckbass » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:08 pm

phillywc wrote:
fratstar1 wrote:I'm just glad Eva forgave him.
Nervy moments before she did.
It's also good to know that you can take a nail to the eye and not be blinded.

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Post by 03152016 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:27 pm

i think the moral of the story here is that marijuana makes you launch nails into little girls heads

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Post by Mack.Hambleton » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:30 pm

On the Saturday he was babysitting, Fred smoked some marijuana and went to his
basement workshop, bringing Eva with him. As he was cutting a two-by-four on his
table saw, the saw blade hit a nail lodged deep in the wood. The nail shot out of the
wood and hit Eva, who was not wearing goggles, in the eye.

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Post by Winter is Coming » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:31 pm

I would love to write these.

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Post by jingosaur » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:17 pm

If Fred posted in this subforum about going to law school, I'm pretty sure the response would be a resounding no. I'd like to see somebody troll as Fred and apply to MSoL with that thread being their MSLAT.



To apply, you need THREE letters of recommendation and AND an interview. Suck on that, ABA.

http://mslaw.edu/application-center/

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Post by TheSpanishMain » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:23 pm

I found the marital problems of Fred's BigLaw mom and failed-the-bar-turned carpenter dad pretty interesting. They really call back carpentry when he launches a nail into his girlfriend's daughter's eye. SO MANY LAYERS.

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Post by toothbrush » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:26 pm

For a while I thought this was going to be a torts hypo.

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Post by ditch digger » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:10 pm

I kinda feel bad for Fred. When he's watching Ava while Jean is away "visiting friends in another state" or "attend[ing] a wedding," she is cheating on him. We all know it, Ava knows it, and Fred knows it.

Also, I spent my 2L summer working for a mid-level Rhode Island firm. The firm selected a MSL graduate over me for an open associate position.

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Post by JustHawkin » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:08 pm

ditch digger wrote:
Also, I spent my 2L summer working for a mid-level Rhode Island firm. The firm selected a MSL graduate over me for an open associate position.
This doesn't happen....


...does it?

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Post by guano » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:24 pm

Wait, does Massachusetts School of Law now outsource admissions decisions to their applicants?

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Post by It's A Lion » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:36 pm

Massachusetts School of Law Dean Interview:
A Fast-Track To Law School (LinkRemoved) wrote:Sheryl (Interviewer): How many graduates are employed full-time in legal jobs? How many are unemployed or maybe underemployed?

Velvel (Dean): I have no idea. We have never collected statistics on any of that, so we don’t have any notion.

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Post by ditch digger » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:23 am

JustHawkin wrote:
ditch digger wrote:
Also, I spent my 2L summer working for a mid-level Rhode Island firm. The firm selected a MSL graduate over me for an open associate position.
This doesn't happen....


...does it?
I'm a bit embarrassed to say that yes, it did happen. Basically, the firm lost an associate and needed a replacement ASAP. At that moment, I had another year left of law school and this MSL grad strolled in at the perfect time to take the open position. I almost asked the managing partner why they would hire someone from a non-accredited school, but as a spiteful and vindictive person, I need to make an effort not to appear spiteful and vindictive.

The fact that this kid could get a job, however, gives me some glimmer of hope that I'll eventually find a suitable job.

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Post by 03152016 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:49 am

It's A Lion wrote:Massachusetts School of Law Dean Interview:
A Fast-Track To Law School (LinkRemoved) wrote:Sheryl (Interviewer): How many graduates are employed full-time in legal jobs? How many are unemployed or maybe underemployed?

Velvel (Dean): I have no idea. We have never collected statistics on any of that, so we don’t have any notion.
"After the free, junior year, they can skip their senior year if they get accepted to the Massachusetts School of Law in Andover.

Lawrence Velvel is the school’s dean. He says the law school trustees subsidize the completion college for under half a million dollars a year. Velvel says ACHLS is a good investment because most of the students do go on to the Mass School of Law, or MSL.

Even though we are not charging tuition for the history college, we do OK, because in law school, they pay tuition and it more than compensates for the money we are putting into the history college."

was about to comment on what a rotten trick this was
subsidizing a completion college offering free junior year tuition to lure kids into attending msl at full price
but then i visited the achls website and discovered they are shutting down imminently
good riddance
hopefully msl will be next

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Post by Cicero76 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:28 am

The 23-year old community college graduate is a paralegal for a New Hampshire state prosecutor. It’s her dream to become one some day.

"I can safely say I would be making average, about average, no more than a hundred thousand a year. But I don’t need to be rich as an attorney. I want to be able to help people who don’t have a voice."

McElroy estimates she’ll owe between 50 and 60 thousand dollars for law school. But within six years, she’ll pay it off.
"I don't want to be rich. I just want to be making 100k as a state prosecutor."

what

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Re: smart enough for massachusetts school of law?

Post by Flips88 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:03 am

Pros:
-competent enough to serve soup to the homeless
-ready to take on responsibility at a moment's notice. see: taking young child to the hospital who he shot in the eye with a nail.
-can make MSL the first school to have a graduate focusing his law practice on "aging"
-comfortable with working in a group setting. see: his drug addict support group


Con:
-shot a child in the face with a nail while high on drugs
-dropped philosophy classes because they weren't "easy courses"
-lacked perception to notice his parents fights over the law were not interesting, but rather a prelude to their nasty divorce.

Recommendation: admission with full scholarship with top 10% stipulation so when he fucks up MSL makes some bank.

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Re: smart enough for massachusetts school of law?

Post by 03152016 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:12 am

Flips88 wrote:Con:
-shot a child in the face with a nail while high on drugs
:lol:

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Post by donewithannarbor » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:18 am

ScottRiqui, I see. I should have figured that they didn't give two shits about the ABA, but I was too lazy to look them up and learn about their non-accredited status.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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