BU v BC v Emory Forum

Ngoblue2014 · Post by **Ngoblue2014** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:16 pm

I said i wouldn't ask again, but things have changed dramatically.

Ties: Michigan, NYC, somewhat Boston, Miami/Palm Beach

Goals: Big Law, eventually politics

Offers: (updated and better calculated COA)

BU (as of today) COA: 117k
BC: COA: 109k
Emory: 112k

Funding: College fund started in mid 90's by my grandfather will cover full tuition, my parents are paying living expenses (trust me i know i owe them for the rest of my life, very thankful)

This is my final 3, any strong opinions?

KatyMarie · Post by **KatyMarie** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:27 pm

So your cost of attendance is actually:

BU: COA: 0
BC: COA: 0
Emory: 0

Right?

Go where you want to practice since they're regional schools.

Ngoblue2014 · Post by **Ngoblue2014** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:32 pm

i guess my personal COA, yes, but still it is important (but since they are so close $ wise it isn't a determining factor.) But if, for instance, i didn't have a scholarship from BC, making it 90k more expensive, I wouldn't consider it. That's why i include COA

irish921 · Post by **irish921** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:35 pm

"somewhat Boston" ties probably make BU or BC the right answer over Emory, assuming you are ok with working in Boston. Between the Boston schools, I would take BC as I hate BU's campus, but BC has been sliding a bit recently in terms of placement. Visit each, figure out where you would be happiest, and pull the trigger.

Continue to pit BC and BU against each other to decrease the money your parents/grandparents are spending.

Ngoblue2014 · Post by **Ngoblue2014** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:40 pm

thank you for the advice. I would be really happy in the miami market i feel as well though, wouldn't emory be best for that?

KatyMarie · Post by **KatyMarie** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:50 pm

Ngoblue2014 wrote:thank you for the advice. I would be really happy in the miami market i feel as well though, wouldn't emory be best for that?

None of these schools are going to be great for Big Law in Miami (or great for Big law period)

Check it out - http://www.lstscorereports.com/compare/emory/bu/bc/

I'd probably go with the closer ties (so either BU or BC), but you should probably think about what you'd want to do if you can't get Big Law.

treeey86 · Post by **treeey86** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:07 pm

biglaw barely exists in Miami as is. Go with your strength which is Boston.

Ngoblue2014 · Post by **Ngoblue2014** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:40 pm

I just want an opportunity to practice in a large city with a decent salary

HRomanus · Post by **HRomanus** » Thu May 01, 2014 10:12 am

We had a brief discussion in the UNC thread. From that, it sounds like BU or BC is the best option for your career goals because of higher BigLaw scores and closer association with your Boston and Michigan ties. I think Emory is a great school and I'll be attending in the Fall, but BU/BC sound like the no-brainer here.

I don't really know the differences between them, but it looks like BC places more people in legal positions (private firms and clerkships) than BU, which has a lot of government and PI placement. Just from looking at LST, it appears that BC has better placement in MA firms. With their numbers being so close, however, it really is dependent on which campus and community you liked the best.

Ngoblue2014 · Post by **Ngoblue2014** » Mon May 05, 2014 10:19 pm

agreed thank you for your input

cotiger · Post by **cotiger** » Wed May 07, 2014 11:47 am

If they're really shrinking class size as dramatically as you mentioned in your other thread, I'd pick BU here.

underwood15 · Post by **underwood15** » Wed May 07, 2014 11:59 am

for politics, you gotta go bc over bu. almost every single MA congressman went to BC Law. John Kerry, Scott Brown, Sen. Ed Markey, Dan Malloy, Governor of CT, etc...great ties and precedence

redsoxfan1989 · Post by **redsoxfan1989** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:23 pm

underwood15 wrote:for politics, you gotta go bc over bu. almost every single MA congressman went to BC Law. John Kerry, Scott Brown, Sen. Ed Markey, Dan Malloy, Governor of CT, etc...great ties and precedence

Joe Kennedy III went to HLS, Liz Warren went to Rutgers, Bill Keating went to Suffolk, Niki Tsongas went to BU, and Katherine Clark went to Cornell.

Tl;dr: Don't pick your law school based on political ambitions.

Ngoblue2014 · Post by **Ngoblue2014** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:31 pm

well i am very politically motivated but since i will most likely be running in michigan, does BU v. BC really matter?

cotiger · Post by **cotiger** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:32 pm

Ngoblue2014 wrote:well i am very politically motivated but since i will most likely be running in michigan, does BU v. BC really matter?

lol wut

i think we need to hear what you're trying to accomplish here.

Ngoblue2014 · Post by **Ngoblue2014** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:46 pm

later in life i would like to be a politician and am from michigan, would like to move back when i am older

Ngoblue2014 · Post by **Ngoblue2014** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:47 pm

so i am guessing the schools mass congressmen attended isn't all that important, is what i meant

KatyMarie · Post by **KatyMarie** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:52 pm

I am having a hard time piecing together your plan here. You want to go to school in either Boston or Atlanta, then go do Big Law in NYC or Miami(?), then become a politician in Michigan?

cron1834 · Post by **cron1834** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:54 pm

redsoxfan1989 wrote:
underwood15 wrote:for politics, you gotta go bc over bu. almost every single MA congressman went to BC Law. John Kerry, Scott Brown, Sen. Ed Markey, Dan Malloy, Governor of CT, etc...great ties and precedence
Joe Kennedy III went to HLS, Liz Warren went to Rutgers, Bill Keating went to Suffolk, Niki Tsongas went to BU, and Katherine Clark went to Cornell.

Tl;dr: Don't pick your law school based on political ambitions.

Ngoblue2014 wrote:well i am very politically motivated but since i will most likely be running in michigan, does BU v. BC really matter?

Dude, the level of derp in this thread is approaching toxicity. Why are you planning on moving all across the country for random regional schools/jobs if you want a political career in Michigan?

Ngoblue2014 · Post by **Ngoblue2014** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:55 pm

haha yea interesting right? Growing up i lived in the miami area during the winter (until i was about 10 and school was no longer ok with 50 absences a year) i have lived in michigan year around ever since. However, my parents still spend most of the winter in the miami area, so really it is sort of a "second home" for me (hence me being comfortable working there and having ties.) My family has a company in Michigan that someday i will most likely return to (down the road however) at which point i would like to get involved in politics. Make a little more sense?

Ngoblue2014 · Post by **Ngoblue2014** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:56 pm

Essentially i want to live outside of michigan for at least the next decade, hence the regional school applications. I am sorry for the confusion and thank you for the input

cotiger · Post by **cotiger** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:57 pm

Ngoblue2014 wrote:haha yea interesting right? Growing up i lived in the miami area during the winter (until i was about 10 and school was no longer ok with 50 absences a year) i have lived in michigan year around ever since. However, my parents still spend most of the winter in the miami area, so really it is sort of a "second home" for me (hence me being comfortable working there and having ties.) My family has a company in Michigan that someday i will most likely return to (down the road however) at which point i would like to get involved in politics. Make a little more sense?

That goal is entirely irrelevant to choosing between these schools.

Ties to Boston -> BU/BC

Equal cost -> pick which one you like more

BU dramatically reducing class size? -> favor BU

KatyMarie · Post by **KatyMarie** » Wed May 07, 2014 1:01 pm

Ngoblue2014 wrote:haha yea interesting right? Growing up i lived in the miami area during the winter (until i was about 10 and school was no longer ok with 50 absences a year) i have lived in michigan year around ever since. However, my parents still spend most of the winter in the miami area, so really it is sort of a "second home" for me (hence me being comfortable working there and having ties.) My family has a company in Michigan that someday i will most likely return to (down the road however) at which point i would like to get involved in politics. Make a little more sense?

Not really honestly. Not to me anyway. If you want your degree to be portable, you should probably be looking at T-14 schools. Since you and your family are all over the map and being able to move into a new situation and city is important to you, it just seems unnecessarily difficult to try to do that with a regional degree.

cron1834 · Post by **cron1834** » Wed May 07, 2014 1:16 pm

Is this just crazy talk, or ... why isn't UMich in the discussion here?

OP, are you just throwing darts at a wall map to determine schools/regions? It's not clear how literally any of them are going to be good decisions for you.

HRomanus · Post by **HRomanus** » Wed May 07, 2014 3:09 pm

cron1834 wrote:Is this just crazy talk, or ... why isn't UMich in the discussion here?

OP, are you just throwing darts at a wall map to determine schools/regions? It's not clear how literally any of them are going to be good decisions for you.

OP was rejected from UMich and withdrew his acceptance from Michigan State. Here is OPs LSN profile, for some illumination on his admissions process: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Nateumich2014. I've never understood why TLS likes to continually rehash advice with the same person and give advice beyond the scope of the OP. OP understands his situation, the options available, and his ultimate objectives.

From previous threads: He wants to work in BigLaw outside of Michigan for 5-10 years, then return to Michigan and work in a solo/small firm with a longterm goal of entering Michigan politics. He has a strong network in Michigan. He has ties in Miami and Boston. He is comfortable with the risk of attending BU/BC/Emory understanding their chances of BigLaw employment. His education is paid for, so COA is irrelevant.

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