Desert Fox Law School Rankings - Now with SECOND PAGE Forum

[09042014]

Methodology

((51+ private practice + Gov + PI + Academia + fed clerks) minus school funded) divided by (total grads minus 75% of the JD/MBA class)

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[Mack.Hambleton]

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[Blessedassurance]

summon: rayiner.

i never got a chance to respond to your views on equity in the other thread which was locked for no reason by shitmods, but your general comment on dilution of equity is technically not correct. it obviously depends on what was bargained for in the term sheet etc.

[09042014]

u know its a good ranking when UCI is in the top 20

They got dem jobs

[Kimikho]

Sweet beans SLS sticker it is.

[d cooper]

Prestige quantified. Now we can say with full confidence that Fordham is exactly half as prestigious as Stanford.

[jbagelboy]

why 51+ private firms? lots of TTT 60 person small market firms paying $55K out there

[09042014]

why 51+ private firms? lots of TTT 60 person small market firms paying $55K out there

Northwestern had 6 people in 51-101. Median salary was 160k, 25% percentile was 148k. Similar data from 2012 and 2011. These firms are often just boutiques.

101+ discriminates against schools who draw in people from smaller towns.

[sighsigh]

Isn't academia flame for everyone outside HYS (maybe HYS as well)?

[melodically]

I'd probably just count school-funded as a zero, but even that's heavily dependent on the school. Otherwise, I think this is pretty solid.

Note: I'm a 0L.

[Kimikho]

If a school hires their student to teach after graduation, is that academia or school-hired?

[ph14]

What's the significance of "75% of the JDMBA class size"?

[09042014]

Isn't academia flame for everyone outside HYS (maybe HYS as well)?

It's a total flame but I included it anyway. Yale is like 2%. Harvard even lower.

It sort of fucks up the lower ranked schools because Emory and Maryland claim a ton of academics. But I assume they are school funded and therefore are removed from my prestigious rankings anyway

[09042014]

What's the significance of "75% of the JDMBA class size"?

To account for JD/MBA's who don't do law and instead do business. This assumption is the weakest, because I bet most do JD style jobs at most schools. But I couldn't figure out a better way to account for the fact that standford, penn and norhtwestern have a bunch of JD/MBAs who don't do law.

[09042014]

If a school hires their student to teach after graduation, is that academia or school-hired?

It'd be both, so in my counting it would cancel out.

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

This post plus his contribution to the "real lawyers talk about their day" thread is perfection. Fox creates random ranking of 36 schools (the new t-36) during his "11:00 - noon pretend I'm doing actual work" hour.

Doods got a sweet job.

[jbagelboy]

why 51+ private firms? lots of TTT 60 person small market firms paying $55K out there

Northwestern had 6 people in 51-101. Median salary was 160k, 25% percentile was 148k. Similar data from 2012 and 2011. These firms are often just boutiques.

101+ discriminates against schools who draw in people from smaller towns.

that's fair for that school but i think it's unlikely to hold up outside the T14. Probably inflating a bunch of other schools

[09042014]

What's the significance of "75% of the JDMBA class size"?

To account for JD/MBA's who don't do law and instead do business. This assumption is the weakest, because I bet most do JD style jobs at most schools. But I couldn't figure out a better way to account for the fact that standford, penn and norhtwestern have a bunch of JD/MBAs who don't do law.

I've decided I should probably just remove them from the denominator. UPDATED the OP

[09042014]

why 51+ private firms? lots of TTT 60 person small market firms paying $55K out there

Northwestern had 6 people in 51-101. Median salary was 160k, 25% percentile was 148k. Similar data from 2012 and 2011. These firms are often just boutiques.

101+ discriminates against schools who draw in people from smaller towns.

that's fair for that school but i think it's unlikely to hold up outside the T14. Probably inflating a bunch of other schools

Most shitlaw is way lower than 60 people. I don't think there really are a ton of 60 person small firms paying 55k. I'm sure its overinclusive. But so is PI. 30k working for criminals is worse than death.

[Crowing]

Wait is this actually a serious thread

[ManoftheHour]

u know its a good ranking when UCI is in the top 20

Chemerinsky succeeded.

[09042014]

This post plus his contribution to the "real lawyers talk about their day" thread is perfection. Fox creates random ranking of 36 schools (the new t-36) during his "11:00 - noon pretend I'm doing actual work" hour.

Doods got a sweet job.

Makings graphs always makes you look super busy.

[El Pollito]

Fucking aschup, always out-prestiging me.

[ManoftheHour]

This post plus his contribution to the "real lawyers talk about their day" thread is perfection. Fox creates random ranking of 36 schools (the new t-36) during his "11:00 - noon pretend I'm doing actual work" hour.

Doods got a sweet job.

My current job is like that except I'm not getting paid six figures. 40% of the time I'm on here, 40% of the time I'm on Netflix, and 20% of the time I'm doing work.

DF is my hero. The dude's made it.

[aboutmydaylight]

All that Stanford prestige.