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Desert Fox Law School Rankings - Now with SECOND PAGE

Post by 09042014 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:17 pm

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((51+ private practice + Gov + PI + Academia + fed clerks) minus school funded) divided by (total grads minus 75% of the JD/MBA class)

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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by Blessedassurance » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:21 pm

summon: rayiner.

i never got a chance to respond to your views on equity in the other thread which was locked for no reason by shitmods, but your general comment on dilution of equity is technically not correct. it obviously depends on what was bargained for in the term sheet etc.

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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by 09042014 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:26 pm

james.bungles wrote:u know its a good ranking when UCI is in the top 20
They got dem jobs

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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by Kimikho » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:28 pm

Sweet beans SLS sticker it is.

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Post by d cooper » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:30 pm

Prestige quantified. Now we can say with full confidence that Fordham is exactly half as prestigious as Stanford.

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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by jbagelboy » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:31 pm

why 51+ private firms? lots of TTT 60 person small market firms paying $55K out there

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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by 09042014 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:34 pm

jbagelboy wrote:why 51+ private firms? lots of TTT 60 person small market firms paying $55K out there
Northwestern had 6 people in 51-101. Median salary was 160k, 25% percentile was 148k. Similar data from 2012 and 2011. These firms are often just boutiques.

101+ discriminates against schools who draw in people from smaller towns.
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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by sighsigh » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:35 pm

Isn't academia flame for everyone outside HYS (maybe HYS as well)?

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Post by melodically » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:36 pm

I'd probably just count school-funded as a zero, but even that's heavily dependent on the school. Otherwise, I think this is pretty solid.

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Post by Kimikho » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:37 pm

If a school hires their student to teach after graduation, is that academia or school-hired?

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Post by ph14 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:38 pm

What's the significance of "75% of the JDMBA class size"?

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Post by 09042014 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:38 pm

sighsigh wrote:Isn't academia flame for everyone outside HYS (maybe HYS as well)?
It's a total flame but I included it anyway. Yale is like 2%. Harvard even lower.

It sort of fucks up the lower ranked schools because Emory and Maryland claim a ton of academics. But I assume they are school funded and therefore are removed from my prestigious rankings anyway

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Post by 09042014 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:40 pm

ph14 wrote:What's the significance of "75% of the JDMBA class size"?
To account for JD/MBA's who don't do law and instead do business. This assumption is the weakest, because I bet most do JD style jobs at most schools. But I couldn't figure out a better way to account for the fact that standford, penn and norhtwestern have a bunch of JD/MBAs who don't do law.

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Post by 09042014 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:41 pm

scoobers wrote:If a school hires their student to teach after graduation, is that academia or school-hired?
It'd be both, so in my counting it would cancel out.

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Post by Lord Randolph McDuff » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:42 pm

This post plus his contribution to the "real lawyers talk about their day" thread is perfection. Fox creates random ranking of 36 schools (the new t-36) during his "11:00 - noon pretend I'm doing actual work" hour.

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Post by jbagelboy » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:43 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:why 51+ private firms? lots of TTT 60 person small market firms paying $55K out there
Northwestern had 6 people in 51-101. Median salary was 160k, 25% percentile was 148k. Similar data from 2012 and 2011. These firms are often just boutiques.

101+ discriminates against schools who draw in people from smaller towns.
that's fair for that school but i think it's unlikely to hold up outside the T14. Probably inflating a bunch of other schools

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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by 09042014 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:46 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
ph14 wrote:What's the significance of "75% of the JDMBA class size"?
To account for JD/MBA's who don't do law and instead do business. This assumption is the weakest, because I bet most do JD style jobs at most schools. But I couldn't figure out a better way to account for the fact that standford, penn and norhtwestern have a bunch of JD/MBAs who don't do law.
I've decided I should probably just remove them from the denominator. UPDATED the OP

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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by 09042014 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:48 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
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jbagelboy wrote:why 51+ private firms? lots of TTT 60 person small market firms paying $55K out there
Northwestern had 6 people in 51-101. Median salary was 160k, 25% percentile was 148k. Similar data from 2012 and 2011. These firms are often just boutiques.

101+ discriminates against schools who draw in people from smaller towns.
that's fair for that school but i think it's unlikely to hold up outside the T14. Probably inflating a bunch of other schools
Most shitlaw is way lower than 60 people. I don't think there really are a ton of 60 person small firms paying 55k. I'm sure its overinclusive. But so is PI. 30k working for criminals is worse than death.

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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by Crowing » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:49 pm

Wait is this actually a serious thread

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Post by ManoftheHour » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:51 pm

james.bungles wrote:u know its a good ranking when UCI is in the top 20
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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by 09042014 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:53 pm

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:This post plus his contribution to the "real lawyers talk about their day" thread is perfection. Fox creates random ranking of 36 schools (the new t-36) during his "11:00 - noon pretend I'm doing actual work" hour.

Doods got a sweet job.
Makings graphs always makes you look super busy.

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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by El Pollito » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:57 pm

Fucking aschup, always out-prestiging me.

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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by ManoftheHour » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:01 pm

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:This post plus his contribution to the "real lawyers talk about their day" thread is perfection. Fox creates random ranking of 36 schools (the new t-36) during his "11:00 - noon pretend I'm doing actual work" hour.

Doods got a sweet job.
My current job is like that except I'm not getting paid six figures. 40% of the time I'm on here, 40% of the time I'm on Netflix, and 20% of the time I'm doing work.

DF is my hero. The dude's made it.

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Re: Desert Fox Prestige Rankings

Post by aboutmydaylight » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:02 pm

All that Stanford prestige.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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