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Columbia
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13%
Berkeley
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6%
U Chi
35
73%
NYU
4
8%
 
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Post by UnicornHunter » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:31 pm

Of the choices you list, Chicago wins by a mile.

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Post by ph14 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:45 pm

Chicago, but negotiate with the other schools if you would prefer them over Chicago.

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Post by cotiger » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:47 pm

If money's not really an issue and you're primarily looking for QOL + east coast, then I'd say NYU.

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Post by ph14 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:51 pm

cotiger wrote:If money's not really an issue and you're primarily looking for QOL + east coast, then I'd say NYU.
Yeah, could you clarify OP. Is it more money isn't an issue i'm just looking for best QOL + east coast? Or is it, I don't want money to be the main driving force but if one offer is much better I have to take it? Or can you give us some more guidance here?

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Post by lecsa » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:52 pm

Chicago.

300k for sticker at the other schools is crazy even if you are paying out of pocket with no loans (think of it as lost investment income).

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lecsa wrote:Chicago.

300k for sticker at the other schools is crazy even if you are paying out of pocket with no loans (think of it as lost investment income).
It would be closer to $210-250k, more likely. But yeah, it's a lot of cash.

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Post by lecsa » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:54 pm

ph14 wrote:
lecsa wrote:Chicago.

300k for sticker at the other schools is crazy even if you are paying out of pocket with no loans (think of it as lost investment income).
It would be closer to $210-250k, more likely. But yeah, it's a lot of cash.
If you're taking out loans it's around 300k right?

So if not, then 260k?

If you had that money invested, then you could probably make a good chunk of interest. So negative about 300k.
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Post by mmoffx » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:56 pm

ph14 wrote:
cotiger wrote:If money's not really an issue and you're primarily looking for QOL + east coast, then I'd say NYU.
Yeah, could you clarify OP. Is it more money isn't an issue i'm just looking for best QOL + east coast? Or is it, I don't want money to be the main driving force but if one offer is much better I have to take it? Or can you give us some more guidance here?
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Post by ph14 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:57 pm

lecsa wrote:
ph14 wrote:
lecsa wrote:Chicago.

300k for sticker at the other schools is crazy even if you are paying out of pocket with no loans (think of it as lost investment income).
It would be closer to $210-250k, more likely. But yeah, it's a lot of cash.
If you're taking out loans it's around 300k right?

So if not, then 260k?

If you had that money invested, then you could probably make a good chunk of interest. So negative about 300k.
OP is going (hopefully) sans loans. So that saves him a bit on interest.

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Post by lecsa » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:57 pm

ph14 wrote:
lecsa wrote:
ph14 wrote:
lecsa wrote:Chicago.

300k for sticker at the other schools is crazy even if you are paying out of pocket with no loans (think of it as lost investment income).
It would be closer to $210-250k, more likely. But yeah, it's a lot of cash.
If you're taking out loans it's around 300k right?

So if not, then 260k?

If you had that money invested, then you could probably make a good chunk of interest. So negative about 300k.
OP is going (hopefully) sans loans. So that saves him a bit on interest.
What about investment income from that cash. He'd probably lose out on a lot of return.

I think it's stupid and crazy to take CCN with no money over CCN with $, but whatever. Even with your parents paying it, it comes out of your inheritance.
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mmoffx wrote:
ph14 wrote:
cotiger wrote:If money's not really an issue and you're primarily looking for QOL + east coast, then I'd say NYU.
Yeah, could you clarify OP. Is it more money isn't an issue i'm just looking for best QOL + east coast? Or is it, I don't want money to be the main driving force but if one offer is much better I have to take it? Or can you give us some more guidance here?
More the former - money isn't really an issue - but obviously any help is attractive in the face of 200-300K out of pocket, even sans loans.
You don't mention if you tried to leverage Columbia? Also, how strongly did you ask for a match? Did you try something along the lines of "If I get my scholarship matched, I will attend NYU" (or wherever) or did you just say "Hey, Chicago gave me $45k. Can you give me some money?"

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Post by cotiger » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:01 pm

mmoffx wrote:
ph14 wrote:
cotiger wrote:If money's not really an issue and you're primarily looking for QOL + east coast, then I'd say NYU.
Yeah, could you clarify OP. Is it more money isn't an issue i'm just looking for best QOL + east coast? Or is it, I don't want money to be the main driving force but if one offer is much better I have to take it? Or can you give us some more guidance here?
More the former - money isn't really an issue - but obviously any help is attractive in the face of 200-300K out of pocket, even sans loans.
If $45k isn't a particularly large amount for you (which it sounds like it isn't), then definitely pick NYU. Chicago winters are brutal, you're far from your SO, and the atmosphere of the school is the opposite of chill and down to earth.

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Post by mmoffx » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:02 pm

ph14 wrote:
mmoffx wrote:
ph14 wrote:
cotiger wrote:If money's not really an issue and you're primarily looking for QOL + east coast, then I'd say NYU.
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lecsa wrote: I think it's stupid and crazy to take CCN with no money over CCN with $, but whatever. Even with your parents paying it, it comes out of your inheritance.
Stupid and crazy if you're paying for it with loans, sure. If you can pay the $250k in cash, then QOL factors can easily be worth $45k.

That's the whole point of having money: to spend it on shit you want.

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Post by lecsa » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:05 pm

cotiger wrote:
lecsa wrote: I think it's stupid and crazy to take CCN with no money over CCN with $, but whatever. Even with your parents paying it, it comes out of your inheritance.
Stupid and crazy if you're paying for it with loans, sure. If you can pay the $250k in cash, then QOL factors can easily be worth $45k.

That's the whole point of having money: to spend it on shit you want.
Or to invest it and make more money while getting a cheaper law school education at an institution of equal caliber.

All I know is my parents or whoever had 250k to blow on me, I wouldn't have gone to law school. I'd have done something more interesting with my life (like start a business using that capital).
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Post by cotiger » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:07 pm

mmoffx wrote:
ph14 wrote: You don't mention if you tried to leverage Columbia? Also, how strongly did you ask for a match? Did you try something along the lines of "If I get my scholarship matched, I will attend NYU" (or wherever) or did you just say "Hey, Chicago gave me $45k. Can you give me some money?"
thnx for the responses -- I didn't try to leverage columbia yet, just got the award (or lack of award) - I did more of a "hey other schools gave me $" - is it worth it to re-appeal with something stronger?
Sure, just send them an email talking about how you would love to attend CLS, but you have to make sure that it makes financial sense for you, considering Uchi's offer and the high COL in NYC.

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Post by ph14 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:10 pm

mmoffx wrote:
ph14 wrote:
mmoffx wrote:
ph14 wrote:
More the former - money isn't really an issue - but obviously any help is attractive in the face of 200-300K out of pocket, even sans loans.
You don't mention if you tried to leverage Columbia? Also, how strongly did you ask for a match? Did you try something along the lines of "If I get my scholarship matched, I will attend NYU" (or wherever) or did you just say "Hey, Chicago gave me $45k. Can you give me some money?"
thnx for the responses -- I didn't try to leverage columbia yet, just got the award (or lack of award) - I did more of a "hey other schools gave me $" - is it worth it to re-appeal with something stronger?
I would. You have nothing to lose. I think that my action item list would be to either (1) try and leverage Columbia; (2) see what happens and proceed from there. Or: (1) pick the school you want to attend the most (guessing NYU or Columbia due to being in commuting distance to your SO) and (2) say, in better language, if you match the Chicago scholarship I will attend. If neither of those work well then you are just back to where you are now.

In that case, I agree with others who say that it is worth $45k over 3 years to have the maximum QOL. Given that NYU and Columbia are the closest to your SO (I know people at HLS who commute to visit their SO in NYC a reasonable amount) I would pick one of those two. It might not be an every weekend kind of commute but definitely at least an every month commute without much issue.

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lecsa wrote:
cotiger wrote:
lecsa wrote: I think it's stupid and crazy to take CCN with no money over CCN with $, but whatever. Even with your parents paying it, it comes out of your inheritance.
Stupid and crazy if you're paying for it with loans, sure. If you can pay the $250k in cash, then QOL factors can easily be worth $45k.

That's the whole point of having money: to spend it on shit you want.
Or to invest it and make more money while getting a cheaper law school education at an institution of equal caliber.

All I know is my parents or whoever had 250k to blow on me, I wouldn't have gone to law school. I'd have done something more interesting with my life (like start a business using that capital).
Lol at advising this guy with a few years of work experience taking the $250k and starting his own small business. That's much more risky than going to law school at a T6 school.

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Post by cotiger » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:16 pm

lecsa wrote:
cotiger wrote:
lecsa wrote: I think it's stupid and crazy to take CCN with no money over CCN with $, but whatever. Even with your parents paying it, it comes out of your inheritance.
Stupid and crazy if you're paying for it with loans, sure. If you can pay the $250k in cash, then QOL factors can easily be worth $45k.

That's the whole point of having money: to spend it on shit you want.
Or to invest it and make more money while getting a cheaper law school education at an institution of equal caliber.
Again, the point of having money is to be able to get things you want: things like proximity to a SO, getting to living in the incredibly vibrant and exciting Village instead of dreary Hyde Park, and having an overall experience that is more in line with your personality.

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Post by hcrimson2014 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:34 pm

Uchi is objectively the best school in your list and the only one to offer you a scholarship. It is a no brainer to go to Chicago.

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Post by ph14 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:35 pm

hcrimson2014 wrote:Uchi is objectively the best school in your list and the only one to offer you a scholarship. It is a no brainer to go to Chicago.
Not if you read the OP.

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