Loyola vs. Pepperdine vs. UC Hastings Forum

[kiris]

Full ride to all three. Which would you choose? I'm currently a litigation paralegal and would love to be a civil litigator post grad. International law and immigration law are also interesting, and I am considering studying abroad. Not sure if any of the three above schools are a good fit for these things, but I'd rather go to law school with a full ride rather than pay for one of the top 20s.

Any advice would help.

[unodostres]

What are your stipulations?

[tabula rasa]

International law

This is not obtainable from any of these schools.

immigration law

I hope you're fluent in Spanish.

I am considering studying abroad.

Don't.

Not sure if any of the three above schools are a good fit for these things

None of these schools are a good fit for any type of legal employment. Barely half of all Pepperdine and Loyola grads have a full time legal job. UC Hastings is a pathetic shitshow that you should not attend under any circumstances.

I'd rather go to law school with a full ride rather than pay for one of the top 20s.

These schools all suck, they just suck less with $$$$. Keep in mind you will still have COL to pay for, not to mention the opportunity cost of three years not working.

Any advice would help.

If you want better odds than a coin flip's chance at a full time legal job, retake for $$ from UCLA or USC.

[Winston1984]

I wouldn't attend any of them if you want a meaningful chance at practicing law.

[kiris]

I have a 2.5 GPA stipulation for Loyola and Pepperdine and 2.75 for UC Hastings. I am fluent in Spanish. COL isn't a huge issue. I have family to live with in the Miracle Mile area of LA and I'm currently living with 3 roommates in Berkeley with $500/month rent.

I'm worried that if I reapply next year, I won't be offered the same full scholarships and maybe little to no scholarships at other places. I got into USC with no scholarship and waitlisted at UCLA.

[Winston1984]

Stats? Are you a URM?

[kiris]

Yes. 169/3.72.

[thebobs1987]

Yes. 169/3.72.

How did you not get any money from USC or UCLA with those stats? Did you apply late? You should have better options than these schools. Don't go to any of them

[dd235]

Yes. 169/3.72.

How did you not get any money from USC or UCLA with those stats? Did you apply late? You should have better options than these schools. Don't go to any of them

Ya seems like you underperformed

[kiris]

Yes. 169/3.72.

How did you not get any money from USC or UCLA with those stats? Did you apply late? You should have better options than these schools. Don't go to any of them

Unfortunately, I think so. I applied late December, early to mid-January. The firm I work for had a trial in mid-December, so that really threw me off. I also didn't take the LSAT until October.

Anyway, I think I had a weird application cycle. I'm not sure why things turned out like this. I was rejected from Boalt, which was kind of expected. But I was also turned down from Northwestern, AU in D.C., Fordham, GW, and Georgetown. I was accepted to Notre Dame with no money (I applied to ND a week before the deadline kind of as an afterthought and I think it showed). Baylor with $25,000 per year and UC Davis with $17,000 a year, 2.5 stip. I'm currently trying to get money from ND and more from UCD, but I prefer to be in LA/Bay Area.

[thebobs1987]

Yes. 169/3.72.

How did you not get any money from USC or UCLA with those stats? Did you apply late? You should have better options than these schools. Don't go to any of them

Unfortunately, I think so. I applied late December, early to mid-January. The firm I work for had a trial in mid-December, so that really threw me off. I also didn't take the LSAT until October.

Anyway, I think I had a weird application cycle. I'm not sure why things turned out like this. I was rejected from Boalt, which was kind of expected. But I was also turned down from Northwestern, AU in D.C., Fordham, GW, and Georgetown. I was accepted to Notre Dame with no money (I applied to ND a week before the deadline kind of as an afterthought and I think it showed). Baylor with $25,000 per year and UC Davis with $17,000 a year, 2.5 stip. I'm currently trying to get money from ND and more from UCD, but is prefer to be in LA/Bay Area.

If you want to be in CA don't go to ND. Reapply next year. Maybe even retake just to get a few points. Talk to some people about your application and PS because you did apply a little late, but still should have better options, which likely means there's something off with your application. Take the time over the summer to perfect your application and maybe even retake the LSAT. You will be much better off than going to any of the places you currently have as options

[Ramius]

Are you saying you're a urm with a 169/3.72 and these are your choices? You definitely underperformed and it'd be a huge disservice to attend any of these schools. Retake/reapply and you should be looking at $100k+ from both USC/UCLA and some definite t14 love. This makes no sense to me unless something is way off in your app.

[Dr.Zer0]

Are you saying you're a urm with a 169/3.72 and these are your choices? You definitely underperformed and it'd be a huge disservice to attend any of these schools. Retake/reapply and you should be looking at $100k+ from both USC/UCLA and some definite t14 love. This makes no sense to me unless something is way off in your app.

+1

Also what type of URM?

[Dr.Zer0]

=/

[Dr.Zer0]

Double post.

[nebula666]

Did you write your personal statement in crayon or something? I don't think it's actually possible to be URM with your numbers and not be in at HYS let alone USC/UCLA.

Are you sure that you are urm? Even if so, I'd reapply early next cycle.

[rickgrimes69]

Are you saying you're a urm with a 169/3.72 and these are your choices? You definitely underperformed and it'd be a huge disservice to attend any of these schools. Retake/reapply and you should be looking at $100k+ from both USC/UCLA and some definite t14 love. This makes no sense to me unless something is way off in your app.

Forget USC/UCLA - OP should be looking at HYS or T14 w/ $$$. OP, wtf did you do on your application? Something's not right here.

[BigZuck]

Did you write your personal statement in crayon or something? I don't think it's actually possible to be URM with your numbers and not be in at HYS let alone USC/UCLA.

Are you sure that you are urm? Even if so, I'd reapply early next cycle.

Yeah. The OP is either not URM (my guess) or there is something frightfully wrong with his/her application.

I don't think I would go to a CA school ranked less than UCLA or USC. Too many dumpster fires, not enough legal jobs.

[NorCalLaw]

I agree with the sentiment that OP deserves better options with those numbers.

That said, if you're set on going this year (why?), figure out which school will actually cost you the least over a 3 year period and go with that one. None of these schools are markedly better than the others, and each one is a huge gamble even at $0.

[Ramius]

Are you saying you're a urm with a 169/3.72 and these are your choices? You definitely underperformed and it'd be a huge disservice to attend any of these schools. Retake/reapply and you should be looking at $100k+ from both USC/UCLA and some definite t14 love. This makes no sense to me unless something is way off in your app.

Forget USC/UCLA - OP should be looking at HYS or T14 w/ $$$. OP, wtf did you do on your application? Something's not right here.

My thought was it is largely dependent on the type of urm. MA in California won't have nearly the pull that AA male would. I tried to leave it open based on the vague urm intricacies.

[rickgrimes69]

Are you saying you're a urm with a 169/3.72 and these are your choices? You definitely underperformed and it'd be a huge disservice to attend any of these schools. Retake/reapply and you should be looking at $100k+ from both USC/UCLA and some definite t14 love. This makes no sense to me unless something is way off in your app.

Forget USC/UCLA - OP should be looking at HYS or T14 w/ $$$. OP, wtf did you do on your application? Something's not right here.

My thought was it is largely dependent on the type of urm. MA in California won't have nearly the pull that AA male would. I tried to leave it open based on the vague urm intricacies.

Even a non-URM should have a T14 w/$$ with those numbers tho

[kiris]

I think it is because of my undergrad major/school? Art History/SFSU. Extracurriculars were basically nonexistent for me in undergrad as well. I only got my current job after a friend of mine left for law school and put in a VERY good word for me. I also probably could have spent more time on my personal statement, and I didn't do many optional essays.... Really considering reapplying and keeping my fingers crossed that it'll be a better run next cycle.

What are the chances that the schools I got accepted to will know where I was rejected from and/or hold it against me that I turned down their offers and then not accept me/give me less money next cycle? This is something I'm pretty concerned about.

I'm MA.

[The Dark Shepard]

They shouldn't hold it against you.

It really will only help if you take a year off, apply early on(like day 1) next cycle, and work on your PS and maybe get new LOR(any chance one of those fucked you up? Also, were they academic or employers? Schools prefer academic)

[ManoftheHour]

None of these schools are a good fit for any type of legal employment. Barely half of all Pepperdine and Loyola grads have a full time legal job. UC Hastings is a pathetic shitshow that you should not attend under any circumstances.

[ManoftheHour]

Any C&F issues? If you're not lying or misrepresenting anything, there's no way these are your only options.