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[CaveCanem]

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[CaveCanem]

3 votes? come on guys. Help a brother out!

[Kimikho]

In order to receive the best feedback in this forum, please provide as much of the following information in your original post as possible:

-The schools you are considering
-The total Cost of Attendance (COA) of each. COA = cost of tuition + fees + books + cost of living (COL) + accumulated interest - scholarships. Here is a helpful calculator.
-How you will be financing your COA, i.e. loans, family, or savings
-Where you are from and where you want to work, and other places where you have significant ties (if any)
-Your general career goals
-Your LSAT/GPA numbers
-How many times you have taken the LSAT

[daleearnhardt123]

So you want biglaw but you think calling it something else to get different advice is going to be helpful? Ya, I'm not sure I get how that is supposed to work.

As you probably already know, both schools give you a slim chance of securing that kind of work. Per LST:
Brooklyn = 10.8% biglaw + fed clerkship, Cardozo = 12.4%

Of course, at less than 60k COA I don't think either school is indefensible, but the better response is probably to try again next year after re-taking the LSAT.

[CaveCanem]

So you want biglaw but you think calling it something else to get different advice is going to be helpful? Ya, I'm not sure I get how that is supposed to work.

As you probably already know, both schools give you a slim chance of securing that kind of work. Per LST:
Brooklyn = 10.8% biglaw + fed clerkship, Cardozo = 12.4%

Of course, at less than 60k COA I don't think either school is indefensible, but the better response is probably to try again next year after re-taking the LSAT.

Of course i want it. I am also realistic enough to realize the numbers aren't on my side. I am going to law school with the goal of working in my field at the highest capacity, whether it is a 50 lawyer firm or a 500. Either way, the financial situation makes sense for me, and I wouldn't attend if it didn't. I am not looking for any different advice than that which i asked for to begin with; which school is a better choice.

[mtn663]

I am going to law school with the goal of working in my field at the highest capacity, whether it is a 50 lawyer firm or a 500. Either way, the financial situation makes sense for me, and I wouldn't attend if it didn't. I am not looking for any different advice than that which i asked for to begin with; which school is a better choice.

their employment numbers are quite similar(ly bad), and Cardozo being "only" 35 years old should be reflected in those numbers, so wouldn't worry about age too much.

given that their outcomes are comparable and your expenses are comparable, it really doesn't matter. as I'm sure you're aware, the worst case scenario isn't being at a "50 lawyer firm" that doesn't do "corporate law," it's being one of the 45% of grads from each of these schools that has no full-time legal job 9 months after graduation. but if you're okay with that, at least your costs are low.

[transferror]

Since the employment numbers and COA are basically the same between schools, there's not much for TLS to point out. Well, unless the scholarship stipulations (assuming you have them) are wildly different. If so, go with the better stip. If no stips, see first sentence.

The rest of the determining factors are subjective and depend on you. Visit the schools, decide which is more aesthetically appealing, gives you a better vibe, has nicer bathrooms...it doesn't really matter. Personally, I'd consider class size (too lazy to google), commute, and check the grading curves to see if they are roughly the same.

[BigZuck]

Neither cuz big law chances are far too remote (especially if you're a schmo).

I would retake the LSAT and reapply to schools that align with your career goals. Or, readjust your career goals.

[timbs4339]

You really need to think about whether you'd want to do another type of law besides corporate law (I know you don't want to acknowledge this, but that means biglaw). Dozo placed a cool 15% of their grads in 50+ attorney jobs or federal clerkships, Brooklyn about 12%. How much do you know about what most lawyers do? Public defenders, prosecutors, family lawyers, landlord-tenant lawyers, personal injury?

Even at the low cost, this is still three years of your life that may give you worse job opportunities coming out of school because non-law employers see you as a flight risk or too much of a hassle. Think deeply about whether you really want to be a lawyer as opposed to just some guy in a suit who works in a tall building.

[CaveCanem]

Thanks for the feedback guys!