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How many people turn down HLS for non-YHS?

Post by cotiger » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:18 pm

Last year only 290 people who were accepted to Harvard didn't go.

Yale admitted 199. Looking at LSN, there was only 1 person out of the 32 Yale acceptances who didn't get into Harvard. So almost all of those 199 are likely to have also been accepted to HLS.

Then there's all of the people going to Stanford who also got into Harvard, which I assume again would be most of them.

If 85% of Yale matriculants and 60% of SLS matriculants received Harvard acceptances (numbers that sound low, but what do I know..), that would mean that only like 15 people turned down Harvard for somewhere other than Yale or Stanford.

This seems crazy.

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Re: How many people turn down HLS for non-YHS?

Post by PrideandGlory1776 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:21 pm

Probably only slightly more - I'd imagine if your in at Yale - your in at SLS and HLS - if your in at SLS your usually in at HLS as well and if your in at HLS your going to HLS barring a Hamilton, Ruby or Vanderbilt. Given that triage 15 sounds more or less right give or take a few dozen

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Re: How many people turn down HLS for non-YHS?

Post by unodostres » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:33 pm

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Re: How many people turn down HLS for non-YHS?

Post by patogordo » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:34 pm

unodostres wrote:You're*
(took H over Hamilton)

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Re: How many people turn down HLS for non-YHS?

Post by aboutmydaylight » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:08 pm

cotiger wrote:Last year only 290 people who were accepted to Harvard didn't go.

Yale admitted 199. Looking at LSN, there was only 1 person out of the 32 Yale acceptances who didn't get into Harvard. So almost all of those 199 are likely to have also been accepted to HLS.

Then there's all of the people going to Stanford who also got into Harvard, which I assume again would be most of them.

If 85% of Yale matriculants and 60% of SLS matriculants received Harvard acceptances (numbers that sound low, but what do I know..), that would mean that only like 15 people turned down Harvard for somewhere other than Yale or Stanford.

This seems crazy.
Look at the ABA disclosure. 15 people took a Hamilton last year. 39 took a Ruby. 30 took a Levy. So just make assumptions about what percentage of people that got Hamilton/Ruby/Levy also got HLS. Its gotta be at least 90%+ at CC and 80%+ at Penn. That's like 73 people that most likely turned H down for non YS. That's an absolute minimum as it doesn't include other scholarships/people making personal choices for other reasons.

Based on that your assumptions have to be off.

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Re: How many people turn down HLS for non-YHS?

Post by banjo » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:20 pm

^That's 73 people over three years, though, right?

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Re: How many people turn down HLS for non-YHS?

Post by aboutmydaylight » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:23 pm

banjo wrote:^That's 73 people over three years, though, right?
Yea you're right, my fault lol. Guess ~25 or so is a low end estimate.

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Re: How many people turn down HLS for non-YHS?

Post by hcrimson2014 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:02 pm

cotiger wrote:Last year only 290 people who were accepted to Harvard didn't go.

Yale admitted 199. Looking at LSN, there was only 1 person out of the 32 Yale acceptances who didn't get into Harvard. So almost all of those 199 are likely to have also been accepted to HLS.

Then there's all of the people going to Stanford who also got into Harvard, which I assume again would be most of them.

If 85% of Yale matriculants and 60% of SLS matriculants received Harvard acceptances (numbers that sound low, but what do I know..), that would mean that only like 15 people turned down Harvard for somewhere other than Yale or Stanford.

This seems crazy.
Given the lsat/gpa numbers, I don't think the SLS group and the HLS group are as homogenous as intuition would suggest. SLS seems to give GPA a lot more weight and we also have to remember every year about 200 students accepted to S choose other options, giving S by far the lowest yield rate among HYS. Also at least from my experience at this year's HLS ASW (I know it is only an anecdotal and not reliable evidence), a sizable number of the admitted students are business oriented, those working in ibanking and consulting already, who are disproportionally choosing H over even Y.

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