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Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by omzster67 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:47 pm

Just got accepted to Chicago! I was currently debating between Michigan and Northwestern..so my question is: what reasons, if any, are there for me to pick either of these schools over Chicago (besides scholarships, which I currently have none of)

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Post by elterrible78 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:57 pm

omzster67 wrote:Just got accepted to Chicago! I was currently debating between Michigan and Northwestern..so my question is: what reasons, if any, are there for me to pick either of these schools over Chicago (besides scholarships, which I currently have none of)
If money is equal at all places, I can't think of a single legitimate reason (I will grant you that I am primarily interested in employment outcomes, and I don't think there's anything that Michigan or Northwestern do better than Chicago in this regard). The biggest knock on Chicago, I think, is the weather, but that's also a wash if these are the three schools you're considering.

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by omzster67 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:05 pm

elterrible78 wrote:
omzster67 wrote:Just got accepted to Chicago! I was currently debating between Michigan and Northwestern..so my question is: what reasons, if any, are there for me to pick either of these schools over Chicago (besides scholarships, which I currently have none of)
If money is equal at all places, I can't think of a single legitimate reason (I will grant you that I am primarily interested in employment outcomes, and I don't think there's anything that Michigan or Northwestern do better than Chicago in this regard). The biggest knock on Chicago, I think, is the weather, but that's also a wash if these are the three schools you're considering.
Thanks - I just want to get a full view of all the schools. I've heard about the cut-throat nature at Chicago and those related knocks, just looking for more...if any even exist.

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Post by Yea All Right » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:21 pm

Going off stereotypes...

Chicago: Competitive
Michigan: Collegial
Northwestern: Business-focused

But ignore that. Like elterrible78, I believe job prospects are the most important and Chicago is far and away better than the others (especially in terms of value if all schools cost the same).

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by 2014 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:27 pm

This is too easy right now, come back when I have some actual persuading to do.

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by CanadianWolf » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:43 pm

Let Michigan & Northwestern admissions know of your Chicago offer. Then this should become a bit more interesting.

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by OfThriceandTen » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:50 pm

Chicago can be a pretty miserable place, but some of that is just law school. If you can't get Mich or NW to budge on $$$ then there is very little reason to take them over Chicago.

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by omzster67 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:02 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:Let Michigan & Northwestern admissions know of your Chicago offer. Then this should become a bit more interesting.
Is this an accepted practice? I know you can negotiate scholarships when you actually have money on the table, but I don't have anything from Michigan yet and haven't submitted my scholarship app to Northwestern yet.

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by Crowing » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:21 pm

omzster67 wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:Let Michigan & Northwestern admissions know of your Chicago offer. Then this should become a bit more interesting.
Is this an accepted practice? I know you can negotiate scholarships when you actually have money on the table, but I don't have anything from Michigan yet and haven't submitted my scholarship app to Northwestern yet.
Wait until you have initial offers from all the schools first

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Post by omzster67 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:22 pm

Crowing wrote:
omzster67 wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:Let Michigan & Northwestern admissions know of your Chicago offer. Then this should become a bit more interesting.
Is this an accepted practice? I know you can negotiate scholarships when you actually have money on the table, but I don't have anything from Michigan yet and haven't submitted my scholarship app to Northwestern yet.
Wait until you have initial offers from all the schools first
And if none come?

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by Crowing » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:23 pm

omzster67 wrote:
Crowing wrote:
omzster67 wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:Let Michigan & Northwestern admissions know of your Chicago offer. Then this should become a bit more interesting.
Is this an accepted practice? I know you can negotiate scholarships when you actually have money on the table, but I don't have anything from Michigan yet and haven't submitted my scholarship app to Northwestern yet.
Wait until you have initial offers from all the schools first
And if none come?
You'll still get a message telling you you got nothing. As far as what to do if all three schools give you nothing, I suppose it's worth a shot negotiating with just an acceptance but idk how well that works.

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by Rahviveh » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:25 pm

Honestly, I found Michigan's admissions marketing tactics to be incredibly annoying and lame, so that was enough to turn me off of them. Not that I ever got in anyways. Northwestern's location is a lot cooler and their building is nicer, but that's not really a good reason to pick them over uchi.

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by aena » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:38 am

ChampagnePapi wrote:Honestly, I found Michigan's admissions marketing tactics to be incredibly annoying and lame

I. cannot. agree. more.

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by CTT » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:18 am

aena wrote:
ChampagnePapi wrote:Honestly, I found Michigan's admissions marketing tactics to be incredibly annoying and lame

I. cannot. agree. more.
Given that you didn't like the attitude of the place, Michigan is probably not especially unhappy that you chose to go elsewhere.

As to the question.

Chicago: Hyde Park really does suck, but Chicago is cool. And it gives you the best job prospects.
Northwestern: Best location, if you want to be in a city. Slightly worse on the job market than UofC.
Michigan: It's beautiful. Lower cost of living. More colloquial.

You should seek some $$.

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by omzster67 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:08 am

CTT wrote:
aena wrote:
ChampagnePapi wrote:Honestly, I found Michigan's admissions marketing tactics to be incredibly annoying and lame

I. cannot. agree. more.
Given that you didn't like the attitude of the place, Michigan is probably not especially unhappy that you chose to go elsewhere.

As to the question.

Chicago: Hyde Park really does suck, but Chicago is cool. And it gives you the best job prospects.
Northwestern: Best location, if you want to be in a city. Slightly worse on the job market than UofC.
Michigan: It's beautiful. Lower cost of living. More colloquial.

You should seek some $$.
Thanks for the insight. I'll be visiting each school in the next 6 weeks, but I have heard the same things about the Hyde park area. As for $$..I asked this earlier but it is worth asking again, what approach should I take in trying to get anything from NU/Mich given that I haven't received anything yet?

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by jbagelboy » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:30 am

UChicago is a solid step ahead of the other two professionally, academically, and otherwise. You would need a substantial disparity in $$$ (like $50K+ COA) or a very unique extenuating circumstance to justify NU or Michigan here.

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by Ricky-Bobby » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:44 pm

omzster67 wrote:
CTT wrote:
aena wrote:
ChampagnePapi wrote:Honestly, I found Michigan's admissions marketing tactics to be incredibly annoying and lame

I. cannot. agree. more.
Given that you didn't like the attitude of the place, Michigan is probably not especially unhappy that you chose to go elsewhere.

As to the question.

Chicago: Hyde Park really does suck, but Chicago is cool. And it gives you the best job prospects.
Northwestern: Best location, if you want to be in a city. Slightly worse on the job market than UofC.
Michigan: It's beautiful. Lower cost of living. More colloquial.

You should seek some $$.
Thanks for the insight. I'll be visiting each school in the next 6 weeks, but I have heard the same things about the Hyde park area. As for $$..I asked this earlier but it is worth asking again, what approach should I take in trying to get anything from NU/Mich given that I haven't received anything yet?
NU doesn't even start notifying about scholarships until late March.

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Re: Chicago vs. Michigan vs. Northwestern

Post by CTT » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:55 am

omzster67 wrote:
CTT wrote: Given that you didn't like the attitude of the place, Michigan is probably not especially unhappy that you chose to go elsewhere.

As to the question.

Chicago: Hyde Park really does suck, but Chicago is cool. And it gives you the best job prospects.
Northwestern: Best location, if you want to be in a city. Slightly worse on the job market than UofC.
Michigan: It's beautiful. Lower cost of living. More colloquial.

You should seek some $$.
Thanks for the insight. I'll be visiting each school in the next 6 weeks, but I have heard the same things about the Hyde park area. As for $$..I asked this earlier but it is worth asking again, what approach should I take in trying to get anything from NU/Mich given that I haven't received anything yet?
Rephrase this in a kind way:

"Yo, school, I got in at the University of Chicago, and it's ranked higher than your shop. Toss is $20k a year and I'll send in a deposit. Otherwise, no thanks."

And, come to think of it, if the above is accurate, don't state a number to Northwestern until they make you an offer or decline to.

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