Tulsa law Forum

[Jdempewo]

So i know that tulsa is not a t14 but, I've applied to Tulsa Law and I received a letter requesting an admissions interview. However, anywhere that I look tells me that Tulsa doesn't do interviews. Is this a bad sign for my chances at Tulsa or is this normal? With where my stats fall I would not get accepted at a t14. Is there anyone who has applied to TU? Or anyone have any advice?

[downinDtown]

They need to conduct a medical test in person to check for a pulse, and then see your credit history report to make sure you can pay for tuition. But joking aside, rather uncommon for a school in that range to conduct an interview.

Tulsa's actually a decent city. Not sure if you're from the area or how much you've researched the law school and their employment statistics:

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=tulsa
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=tulsa&show=ABA
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school= ... class=2011

Don't go to Tulsa unless they give you $$$, you want to work in Tulsa or OKC, and you're fine with having a low-paying legal or non-legal job (see NALP employment numbers: 25% of the class with a job make less than $42,000, 50% make less than $53,250, and 75% make less than $60,000). Tulsa's not as expensive as some other schools, but having a debt number bigger than your annual salary means you'll be paying it off for a while.

[Jdempewo]

Downtown,

Thanks for your input. I'm from kansas. So its more of a regional thing. I have a scholarship to washburn that covers all but $1800 a yr. So i know the legal job market is dismal but since im staying in the kansas, ok, mo region i don't mind going tier 4 with low debt. And both washburn and tulsa have a bigger reputation in kansas than their ranks. I was also accepted to cleveland st with 24k in scholarship but i dont really want to go tier 4 in a state with that many law programs. And with out of state tuition it means financing a lot more than i would prefer

[deadpanic]

They are probably trying to gauge your interest. If you turn the interview down, they may not offer out a bunch of scholarship $ or accept you at all. Just trying to play the rankings game I'd say, but just a guess.

But really, you probably shouldn't go to Tulsa anyways.

Downtown,

Thanks for your input. I'm from kansas. So its more of a regional thing. I have a scholarship to washburn that covers all but $1800 a yr. So i know the legal job market is dismal but since im staying in the kansas, ok, mo region i don't mind going tier 4 with low debt. And both washburn and tulsa have a bigger reputation in kansas than their ranks. I was also accepted to cleveland st with 24k in scholarship but i dont really want to go tier 4 in a state with that many law programs. And with out of state tuition it means financing a lot more than i would prefer

How much would Tulsa be?

Why is KU not on your list?

[Jdempewo]

Tulsa would be 32k, so in order for me to go there, id need to get a pretty decent scholarship. It was a mistake for me to not consider ku up front, Im working on my application there now. I assumed that ku would offer me less or not accept me at all. My lsat was a 156 and my gpa was a 3.0. Im not sure that tu or ku would give me that much more of an advantage regionally so its really coming down to the financial side.

[downinDtown]

Tulsa would be 32k, so in order for me to go there, id need to get a pretty decent scholarship. It was a mistake for me to not consider ku up front, Im working on my application there now. I assumed that ku would offer me less or not accept me at all. My lsat was a 156 and my gpa was a 3.0. Im not sure that tu or ku would give me that much more of an advantage regionally so its really coming down to the financial side.

OP, are you working now? If you're fine staying in that region, apply to KU and see what they'll do. If Tulsa accepts, then use other scholly offers as leverage. Also, (I don't know if you're working or not but) don't be afraid to sit out this cycle to bump up your LSAT (or heck you could even retake in June and see what schools will bite.

TBH, for schools in that range, most are struggling to fill their classes so it you have competitive numbers (which you would if you increase your LSAT 4-6 points), you would at most schools in OK and Kansas.

Also, did you apply to OU?? Their numbers aren't too far off from where you're at: 25/75 GPA = 3.1-3.58 and 25/75 LSAT = 155-161. It also has better employment numbers than all the other Kansas or OK schools.

Recap: see what scholly $$$ you can get out of TU, apply to OU and KU, retake LSAT in June and see what you can get. If you don't feel comfortable with the debt vs. job prospects at a certain school, don't settle and take the "best option." Don't be afraid to sit out one cycle to get into a school that will markedly boost your career trajectory.

[Jdempewo]

I've really kicked around retaking the LSAT. I have only taken it once and the only prep I did was a princeton review book. When I was practice testing I was hitting 162-164 range. I know everyone tests higher in practice than in the test but I'm sure theres room for improvement. My fear is that if I retake it in June, I wouldn't be able to get the results quick enough to change much.

[downinDtown]

I've really kicked around retaking the LSAT. I have only taken it once and the only prep I did was a princeton review book. When I was practice testing I was hitting 162-164 range. I know everyone tests higher in practice than in the test but I'm sure theres room for improvement. My fear is that if I retake it in June, I wouldn't be able to get the results quick enough to change much.

That's why I would recommend ramping up your studying, taking it in June, and if not much changes (better school or more $$$), then withdraw your apps, hang onto that June score and reapply next cycle. It's a 1-year delay to improve your 40-year career and livelihood.

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

Tulsa is a good city to live in. I don't know a lot about TU. There undergrad is pretty good..

I wouldn't go unless it was on the cheap. That said TU is probably just as good as OU in north eastern oklahoma.

[js123]

If you're considering some lower tier regional schools, the most important thing is coming out with as little debt as possible. If this cycle doesn't go as you would like and the money isn't there, then you should take a more dedicated approach to the lsat. Study your butt off and take it in September. With the proper studying you can definitely break into the 160s and get some scholly $$$. Best of luck!

[Oklahoma2014]

So i know that tulsa is not a t14 but, I've applied to Tulsa Law and I received a letter requesting an admissions interview. However, anywhere that I look tells me that Tulsa doesn't do interviews. Is this a bad sign for my chances at Tulsa or is this normal? With where my stats fall I would not get accepted at a t14. Is there anyone who has applied to TU? Or anyone have any advice?

TU is asking every student to interview and tour campus, it is not a bad sign. Also, the school announced a week or so ago that all students from a 12 state region receive an automatic $18k/year scholarship with only a 2.0 GPA requirement to renew. You can still qualify for more, but the $18k is automatic if accepted and from one of the 12 states (see the website for a list of states). Good luck.

[bronco1769]

TU is asking every student to interview and tour campus, it is not a bad sign.

Is this something new that they are doing? I, too, was asked to interview and I've never heard of a law school doing that. Definitely made me curious especially since I've already gotten into Baylor and Houston so my numbers are above their median.

Jdempewo - how did you interview go/what did you find out?

[Oklahoma2014]

TU is asking every student to interview and tour campus, it is not a bad sign.

Is this something new that they are doing? I, too, was asked to interview and I've never heard of a law school doing that. Definitely made me curious especially since I've already gotten into Baylor and Houston so my numbers are above their median.

Jdempewo - how did you interview go/what did you find out?

Yes, this is the first year TU has asked applicants to interview. I should clarify, not every student is interviewed. Only students the school anticipates admitting, sort of a final step.

[maryjobava]

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[Jdempewo]

TU is asking every student to interview and tour campus, it is not a bad sign.

Is this something new that they are doing? I, too, was asked to interview and I've never heard of a law school doing that. Definitely made me curious especially since I've already gotten into Baylor and Houston so my numbers are above their median.

Jdempewo - how did you interview go/what did you find out?

The interview went really well. It was more like a school visit with a short professor interview at the end. They called 2 days later and admitted me. Then emailed me scholly info. Since then theyve been relentless in sending me letters. It feels almost like im being stalked.

[neffneff]

I have an interview at TU law this week. Looks like a couple of you have already done this—any advice on questions/subjects to prep for in the interview?

[CoffeeIsLife]

I didn't get asked to interview, and I was still accepted. Also, if you negotiate and write a decent Why Tulsa letter if they ask, they will negotiate. I got bumped up $8,000 per year. However, I have withdrawn so maybe you will get some money.