Rutgers - Newark vs Seton Hall? Forum

[Adventureisoutthere]

Rutgers Newark:
$23,000 in scholarship towards their $23,000 tuition if I maintain a 3.0

COA = $48,840 - $23,000 = $25,840/year

OR


Seton Hall
$35,000 a year scholarship towards their out of state tuition of $48,000 as long as I maintain either top 75% of my class or a 2.8 GPA

COA = $70,996 - 35,000 = $35,996/year



Thoughts?

[Nova]

approximately what rank is a 3.0 from R-N?

Youre from NJ and wish to stay in NJ long term, yes?

[Adventureisoutthere]

approximately what rank is a 3.0 from R-N?

Youre from NJ and wish to stay in NJ long term, yes?

According to wiki, a 3.0 is 50% from both schools.



I currently live in FL (R-N offers in-state tuition with a signing a 12 month lease) , but I do wish to stay in NJ.

[PepperJack]

You definitely wouldn't retake the test? I mean Seton Hall has some really good professors, but the jobs suck. There is a very tangible chance you won't get a job.

In all seriousness, are you extraordinarily good looking? I have met big law lawyers from Seton Hall who were very good looking, and were not on law review. If not then you would need to grade onto law review to maybe get a decent job.

[Nova]

incase you havent seen the employment stats...

•54.3% of graduates were known to be employed in long-term, full-time legal jobs.
•79.4% graduates were employed in long-term jobs.
•79% graduates were employed in full-time jobs.

•65.8% of graduates were known to be employed in long-term, full-time legal jobs. •81.3% graduates were employed in long-term jobs.
•81% graduates were employed in full-time jobs.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school= ... show=chars

[deadpanic]

Neither of those schools are worth that much. It is especially not worth going with those strings.

[Adventureisoutthere]

I appreciate all of the feedback.


I am basically wondering if Seton Hall's slightly better job prospects are worth the extra money that I'd be putting into the school versus RN?

[PepperJack]

I appreciate all of the feedback.


I am basically wondering if Seton Hall's slightly better job prospects are worth the extra money that I'd be putting into the school versus RN?

B/W the 2 I'd take Seton Hall, but it's a bad decision. I think factoring in for education, it's worth SOMETHING. Seton Hall has a few incredible profs. But eh, it's such a bad decision. I guess if you have no plans for big law, and can work in law school, you'd sacrifice grades but should still be able to pull median if you accustom yourself to working 72 hour weeks.

[HYSenberg]

NJ has the highest overall tax rate in the nation, so I'd pick the cheaper option just because I wouldn't want to owe more because I went to one TTT over another. Why don't you pick a FL school if you have basically given up on biglaw?

[Adventureisoutthere]

NJ has the highest overall tax rate in the nation, so I'd pick the cheaper option just because I wouldn't want to owe more because I went to one TTT over another. Why don't you pick a FL school if you have basically given up on biglaw?

I'm really wanting to move out of Florida. I understand that because there isn't much reach from Florida schools that I'd pretty much have to give up the ability to work/live anywhere else and that's not something I'd like in my life...

[Nova]

GPA/LSAT? thoughts on retaking?

[HYSenberg]

NJ has the highest overall tax rate in the nation, so I'd pick the cheaper option just because I wouldn't want to owe more because I went to one TTT over another. Why don't you pick a FL school if you have basically given up on biglaw?

I'm really wanting to move out of Florida. I understand that because there isn't much reach from Florida schools that I'd pretty much have to give up the ability to work/live anywhere else and that's not something I'd like in my life...

Fwiw, you won't really have many chances of great employment from a TTT in NJ than a school in FL. I think FL would be the better option because you have demonstratable ties to the area and you'll encounter far lower cost of living concerns.

[timbs4339]

Retake. If not retake, then I'd take 75K at R-N. Either way you'll likely be looking at around a 50-60K salary out of law school. 1.5x the debt is doable on that, 100K is too much.

[Adventureisoutthere]

GPA/LSAT? thoughts on retaking?

3.6
159



My thoughts aren't high =/

[midwest17]

GPA/LSAT? thoughts on retaking?

3.6
159



My thoughts aren't high =/

Retake.

But actually, that GPA can get you into plenty of much better schools. Put the time in to get an LSAT to match it.

[Nova]

Agreed ^

Your GPA is good enough to get into almost any law school in the country. Your LSAT is holding you back. You should definitely be studying for Feb/June.

[BigZuck]

Definitely retake, going to law school with those numbers would be a potentially life-ruinous decision. Gotta get the LSAT up and match it with that good gpa and go to a school worth attending at a reasonable price. Right now you've got neither.

I would also rethink the wisdom of going to a regional school in a region where (it seems?) you don't have ties.

[Adventureisoutthere]

I would also rethink the wisdom of going to a regional school in a region where (it seems?) you don't have ties.

There is potential for ties... I have family in NJ (cousins/uncles), those of which consist of a few successful lawyers.

[BigZuck]

I would also rethink the wisdom of going to a regional school in a region where (it seems?) you don't have ties.

There is potential for ties... I have family in NJ (cousins/uncles), those of which consist of a few successful lawyers.

I don't know that that's gonna cut it.

You had three people basically insta-post the exact same advice. Retake.

[Adventureisoutthere]

I would also rethink the wisdom of going to a regional school in a region where (it seems?) you don't have ties.

There is potential for ties... I have family in NJ (cousins/uncles), those of which consist of a few successful lawyers.

I don't know that that's gonna cut it.

You had three people basically insta-post the exact same advice. Retake.

You are all correct, it's definitely something to consider on my part, which I will do.