T15-25: School(s) with most recognition coast-to-coast Forum

[StephenMU19]

Upper T2. Too soon to think about transferring but wonder what people's thoughts are on the following schools in terms of getting a job outside of the schools region. Assume sticker price if you must. I have an idea and I ranked them in that order.

-Notre Dame
-UCLA
-Texas
-USC
-WUSTL
-Minnesota
-Emory

[moonman157]

None of these schools has "national recognition."

[Tom Joad]

Vandy and GULC, then Notre Dame.

[sopranorleone]

None of these schools has "national recognition."

+1. Also, why not just stay in NY and be with your faux-lawyer boyfriend Mike?

[Monochromatic Oeuvre]

None of these schools has "national recognition."

+1

Whatever your idea, don't.

[butt-head]

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[StephenMU19]

Thanks.

[TheSpanishMain]

Nevermind.

[John_rizzy_rawls]

USC, UCLA, and Notre Dame have some national cache but they're not necessarily portable JDs if that's what you're wondering.

[jbagelboy]

Notre dame and USC have nationally recognized D1 undergrad athletics, but I wouldnt go so far as to say that grants them widespread lay prestige, or by extension, any kind of asset in legal hiring outside of their respective regions.

Among the T1 in that category, as another poster mentioned, Georgetown and Vanderbilt
would have the most reach. This is a question of where you really want to work.

[gaud]

BYU

[laxbrah420]

None of these schools has "national recognition."

+1. Also, why not just stay in NY and be with your faux-lawyer boyfriend Mike?

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Every one of these schools has national recognition. Texas has probably the biggest drop off between local and national prestige.

[hephaestus]

Vandy and GULC, then Notre Dame.

Solid GULC trolling.

[TheThriller]

You forgot Vandy on your list of schools with little to no national recognition.

[Nova]

None are worth sticker

[Void]

Notre dame and USC have nationally recognized D1 undergrad athletics, but I wouldnt go so far as to say that grants them widespread lay prestige, or by extension, any kind of asset in legal hiring outside of their respective regions.

Among the T1 in that category, as another poster mentioned, Georgetown and Vanderbilt
would have the most reach. This is a question of where you really want to work.

This. In the northeast (for instance) most people have no fucking idea that these schools even have law schools, let alone whether they're quality programs. But at least people have heard of Notre Dame because they saw Rudy.

[Big Dog]

UCI. (we haven't heard from Dr. Dre in awhile).

[cinephile]

If you want a job, I'd pick Texas. But I wouldn't say necessarily it would get you either coast.

Also, the rankings are bullshit. A school ranked 20, like Minnesota, is naturally going to have worse prospects than a school ranked 20 or 30-whatever in some region where there are legal jobs.

[TheSpanishMain]

None of these schools has "national recognition."

+1. Also, why not just stay in NY and be with your faux-lawyer boyfriend Mike?

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Every one of these schools has national recognition. Texas has probably the biggest drop off between local and national prestige.

They have national recognition in the sense that people are aware of them and believe them to be generally good schools. Of course a person in Seattle isn't going to go "Huh? Where is that?" if you say you went to Notre Dame. The question is does that translate to legal hiring?

[laxbrah420]

If you want a job, I'd pick Texas. But I wouldn't say necessarily it would get you either coast.

Also, the rankings are bullshit. A school ranked 20, like Minnesota, is naturally going to have worse prospects than a school ranked 20 or 30-whatever in some region where there are legal jobs.

It's the opposite. Minnesota and Alabama do really well in their local areas and thus are inflated in rankings which rely heavily upon hiring stats.

[jingosaur]

Notre Dame probably has the most national recognition outside the T14, but if you transfer to a non-T14 school and pay sticker, you're in for a world of hurt. Jobs are scarce to begin with, and since you can't be measured against your peers with the same yardstick (1L year at that school), a lot of potential employers will not even look at you.

[sinfiery]

Texas has probably the biggest drop off between local and national prestige.

This is likely true and yet it probably still has the largest national prestige from this list. This of course stemming from it being not only the goto school in Texas but also the best school within a 10-15 state geographical circle. Also, it's the only school worth going to at (in-state) sticker from this list.

[StephenMU19]

Right that is a dilemma. I'm paying nearly nothing to go to my school but it just doesn't leave much room for error and unless I want to practice in fly-over country, I will have a really difficult time getting interviews. Sticker for two years is surely better than sticker for three years. They are all ridiculously overpriced though so I see you guys' point.

Thanks for the input.

[jingosaur]

Right that is a dilemma. I'm paying nearly nothing to go to my school but it just doesn't leave much room for error and unless I want to practice in fly-over country, I will have a really difficult time getting interviews. Sticker for two years is surely better than sticker for three years. They are all ridiculously overpriced though so I see you guys' point.

Thanks for the input.

We're unfortunately in an economy where enrolling in a T2 school located in fly-over country means that you should either accept living in fly-over country or not attend. It would probably be best to do your best at where you're going, get the best job that you can get and then leverage your experience and professional network after a few years of work experience to get to a city that you want to live in. It may sound crappy now, but a lot can change in 3 years and maybe by then you'll have friends who will also live in fly-over country or you'll become older and more boring and be fine with it.

[BigZuck]

Right that is a dilemma. I'm paying nearly nothing to go to my school but it just doesn't leave much room for error and unless I want to practice in fly-over country, I will have a really difficult time getting interviews. Sticker for two years is surely better than sticker for three years. They are all ridiculously overpriced though so I see you guys' point.

Thanks for the input.

We're unfortunately in an economy where enrolling in a T2 school located in fly-over country means that you should either accept living in fly-over country or not attend. It would probably be best to do your best at where you're going, get the best job that you can get and then leverage your experience and professional network after a few years of work experience to get to a city that you want to live in. It may sound crappy now, but a lot can change in 3 years and maybe by then you'll have friends who will also live in fly-over country or you'll become older and more boring and be fine with it.

The older and more boring=fine with it is credited.

What about a drop out + retake? Or are we too far in to the semester where if we tried that we would be screwed? I was under the impression you would be ok so long as you hadn't taken any finals yet.