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kwais wrote:Since you must have known many hard working classmates who had poor outcomes, what do you think separated you from them?
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What is your schools LST scoreRwong wrote:kwais wrote:Since you must have known many hard working classmates who had poor outcomes, what do you think separated you from them?
To be honest, most of the hard-working people have a job. My graduating class only had 144 people (so you get to know a lot/most of them). A lot of people had jobs upon graduation (and even before), and most found jobs upon passing the Bar. I really do not know any unemployed people from my graduating class (there must be a few) but I just do not know of them. In fact, a few got Fed. Circuit clerkships, state clerkships, and one or two work in Big Law.
One thing I think always kept me motivated was knowing that I was at a lower-ranked school. I knew (or thought) that finding a job would be A LOT more difficult, so I just went above and beyond in every aspect. I worked 30-35hrs/week all of my 2L and 3L year (while going to school full time); I also worked full-time every summer because I knew the place I was working at was the safest bet in terms of employment, so I wanted to impress them and make connections. I interned for a federal judge, was in the executive board of law review, volunteered for stuff I really did not want to attend, and obsessed over my grades. I pretty much was miserable for three years, but I can tell you that people who did not appear to be nearly as miserable still were able to find jobs.
Ti Malice wrote:What was your approximate class rank? Did you do other things in law school that distinguished you from your peers (e.g., EIC of law review, best oralist or brief in moot court, etc.)?
Did you attend on a scholarship? If so, what percentage of your tuition was covered? Did it seem that many of your peers were also on scholarships? What were the stipulations, roughly, for maintaining the scholarship from year to year?
What's the size of the city or town in which the TTT is located? Is it located in a primary legal market? Smaller market? Coastal or flyover?
What kind of legal market are you working in? Large? Small? Coastal? Flyover? Is your job located in the same region as your school?
What kind of work are you doing? Have any people you know from your class formed their own firms together?
Thanks!
I do not know what you are asking. What's the 75 percentile LSAT score? Is that what you are asking?rad lulz wrote:What is your schools LST scoreRwong wrote:kwais wrote:Since you must have known many hard working classmates who had poor outcomes, what do you think separated you from them?
To be honest, most of the hard-working people have a job. My graduating class only had 144 people (so you get to know a lot/most of them). A lot of people had jobs upon graduation (and even before), and most found jobs upon passing the Bar. I really do not know any unemployed people from my graduating class (there must be a few) but I just do not know of them. In fact, a few got Fed. Circuit clerkships, state clerkships, and one or two work in Big Law.
One thing I think always kept me motivated was knowing that I was at a lower-ranked school. I knew (or thought) that finding a job would be A LOT more difficult, so I just went above and beyond in every aspect. I worked 30-35hrs/week all of my 2L and 3L year (while going to school full time); I also worked full-time every summer because I knew the place I was working at was the safest bet in terms of employment, so I wanted to impress them and make connections. I interned for a federal judge, was in the executive board of law review, volunteered for stuff I really did not want to attend, and obsessed over my grades. I pretty much was miserable for three years, but I can tell you that people who did not appear to be nearly as miserable still were able to find jobs.
Ti Malice wrote:A couple of others:
Is the school located in the region where you grew up, attended college, or worked prior to attending law school? Did most of your classmates have ties to the area?
How many years out of undergrad were you when you entered law school? What did you study in undergrad? If you worked before law school, what kind of work did you do?
Thanks again!
timmyd wrote:I just transferred from a TTT. It remains to be seen if it was a good decision because I will be in substantially more debt. What TTT? They are not all created equally. Some TTT are better in terms of employment than TTs because of their market. You mentioned you were on law review. How are the people that were not on law review doing? I just left because I was tired of getting passed over for jobs because employers just trusted kids more that came from x TT school or Y low tier 1. I ended up at the University of Texas School of Law but like I said, it remains to be seen if it will pay dividends.
Law school transparency score. You could give a narrow range if you don't want to out your school.Rwong wrote:I do not know what you are asking. What's the 75 percentile LSAT score? Is that what you are asking?rad lulz wrote:What is your schools LST scoreRwong wrote:kwais wrote:Since you must have known many hard working classmates who had poor outcomes, what do you think separated you from them?
To be honest, most of the hard-working people have a job. My graduating class only had 144 people (so you get to know a lot/most of them). A lot of people had jobs upon graduation (and even before), and most found jobs upon passing the Bar. I really do not know any unemployed people from my graduating class (there must be a few) but I just do not know of them. In fact, a few got Fed. Circuit clerkships, state clerkships, and one or two work in Big Law.
One thing I think always kept me motivated was knowing that I was at a lower-ranked school. I knew (or thought) that finding a job would be A LOT more difficult, so I just went above and beyond in every aspect. I worked 30-35hrs/week all of my 2L and 3L year (while going to school full time); I also worked full-time every summer because I knew the place I was working at was the safest bet in terms of employment, so I wanted to impress them and make connections. I interned for a federal judge, was in the executive board of law review, volunteered for stuff I really did not want to attend, and obsessed over my grades. I pretty much was miserable for three years, but I can tell you that people who did not appear to be nearly as miserable still were able to find jobs.
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Rwong wrote:I have never heard of LST, so let me look it up.
What percentage is employed in full time, JD required positions?Rwong wrote:Rwong wrote:I have never heard of LST, so let me look it up.
It is all green for the required disclosures....I did not spend much time analyzing this LST thing (clearly), but it seems to be reporting my school as the fourth highest score in the region, and states that 86.6 percent of my class is employed.
Sinatra wrote:What percentage is employed in full time, JD required positions?Rwong wrote:Rwong wrote:I have never heard of LST, so let me look it up.
It is all green for the required disclosures....I did not spend much time analyzing this LST thing (clearly), but it seems to be reporting my school as the fourth highest score in the region, and states that 86.6 percent of my class is employed.
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that's not bad for a TTTRwong wrote:Sinatra wrote:What percentage is employed in full time, JD required positions?Rwong wrote:Rwong wrote:I have never heard of LST, so let me look it up.
It is all green for the required disclosures....I did not spend much time analyzing this LST thing (clearly), but it seems to be reporting my school as the fourth highest score in the region, and states that 86.6 percent of my class is employed.
69 percent; 17 percent in J.D-advantage jobs.
rad lulz wrote:That's actually pretty good
Some "T1" schools can barely muster 50%
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There are only nineteen schools with an employment score that high and none can be described as a TTT: http://www.lstscorereports.com/?r=other.Rwong wrote:69 percent; 17 percent in J.D-advantage jobs.
Snowboarder1588 wrote:I'm about to start searching school by school...my curiosity is gonna kill me...just tell us where you went; your secret is safe with us
malleus discentium wrote:There are only nineteen schools with an employment score that high and none can be described as any number of T's: http://www.lstscorereports.com/?r=other.Rwong wrote:69 percent; 17 percent in J.D-advantage jobs.
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