UVA $$$ v Chicago $$ Forum
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yellowedpages

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UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
Hi guys! I'm back again with significantly better choices then last time so I'll just jump right in.
I have accepted an offer from UVA which would put my total cost of attendance at 90k (including living costs) However I have just been accepted into UChicago off the the waitlist with a 30,000/yr scholarship which would put my total cost of attendance there around 150,000. Anything that is not covered by scholarships will be loans.
Some more information:
My family is all based on the east coast and I would like to work there after graduation (especially in DC)
I am interested in clerking but that is not a make or break point for me.
I want to do PI/Gov work
I have visited UVA and liked it everyone seemed nice and happy with their choice. I haven't had the chance to visit UChi nor have I visited Chicago so I can't really comment on that one.
I like the availability of internships during the school year at Chicago.
I have accepted an offer from UVA which would put my total cost of attendance at 90k (including living costs) However I have just been accepted into UChicago off the the waitlist with a 30,000/yr scholarship which would put my total cost of attendance there around 150,000. Anything that is not covered by scholarships will be loans.
Some more information:
My family is all based on the east coast and I would like to work there after graduation (especially in DC)
I am interested in clerking but that is not a make or break point for me.
I want to do PI/Gov work
I have visited UVA and liked it everyone seemed nice and happy with their choice. I haven't had the chance to visit UChi nor have I visited Chicago so I can't really comment on that one.
I like the availability of internships during the school year at Chicago.
- MyNameIsFlynn!

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Re: UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
They're basically pier schools man. CCNV. Go with the cheaper one & enjoy Charlottesville.
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Ti Malice

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Re: UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
If you're certain that you want to do PI/gov't, you should note that Chicago's LRAP is much better than UVA's.
- jbagelboy

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Re: UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
Huge congrats on Chitown $. Id do that. Either choice is justified.
- hohenheim

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Congrats!
I had a similar choice off the WL and took Chicago, but either option is defensible. Hope to see you in Hyde Park!
I had a similar choice off the WL and took Chicago, but either option is defensible. Hope to see you in Hyde Park!
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Schulte212

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Re: UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
Chicago is such a great school, but based on your interests/goals I don't think it is worth the extra 60k. Take UVA here.
- UVAIce

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I would choose UVA. You seem to want DC and that is a market UVA does great in. How many DC offices go to Chicago's OCI?
I don't think you can really make a terrible choice here. Have you been to both campuses? Chicago and UVA are two very different schools.
Edit: Reading comp fail! Have you at least been to Chicago the city? I would say in this situation it can be much better taking a known you like rather than an unknown you could hate.
I don't think you can really make a terrible choice here. Have you been to both campuses? Chicago and UVA are two very different schools.
Edit: Reading comp fail! Have you at least been to Chicago the city? I would say in this situation it can be much better taking a known you like rather than an unknown you could hate.
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- zozin

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Re: UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
I second the LRAP comment. If you're dead set on PI/gov't, look at the average starting salaries for the positions you're seeking. Chicago's $80K ceiling for 100% loan forgiveness is a lot more flexible than UVA's $55K (with limited forgiveness up to $75K). The COA difference might be negated by Chicago's more generous LRAP.
- MyNameIsFlynn!

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Re: UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
What do you want to do in PI/Gov? That's a pretty broad field and you'd get more specific advice if you narrow it down for us
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Ti Malice

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Re: UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
There are at least two other crappy things about UVA's LRAP that aren't part of Chicago's: (1) must enter qualifying employment within two years, and (2) no re-entry.zozin wrote:I second the LRAP comment. If you're dead set on PI/gov't, look at the average starting salaries for the positions you're seeking. Chicago's $80K ceiling for 100% loan forgiveness is a lot more flexible than UVA's $55K (with limited forgiveness up to $75K). The COA difference might be negated by Chicago's more generous LRAP.
- sinfiery

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Re: UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
The LRAP argument is very strong but wanting to be in DC really makes it hard for me to vote against UVA here. The difference in flexibility should be eased a bit by the COA difference but that is still something to consider. Both are good options, OP.
- twenty

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60k is chump change, you won't even need LRAP to pay that off. On the other hand, UChi arguably has a better program. Whether or not that also translates into better job opportunities is anyone's guess.
I guess I'd say UVA. Neither choice is "wrong."
I guess I'd say UVA. Neither choice is "wrong."
- Motivator9

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Tough choice. If you okay with living on UVA's campus, that's a hell of a deal.
- unc0mm0n1

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What? I wish I lived in the world where 60K (with compounding interest) is chump change.twentypercentmore wrote:60k is chump change, you won't even need LRAP to pay that off. On the other hand, UChi arguably has a better program. Whether or not that also translates into better job opportunities is anyone's guess.
I guess I'd say UVA. Neither choice is "wrong."
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akg144

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Re: UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
Go Visit Chicago. Check it out, see the campus, talk with people and get a feel for the atmosphere that you might spend the next 3 years of your life at. The point is not just which will provide better job prospects, although that is very important, but this is going to be your home -- don't make such a big decision without checking out both options and making a fully informed decision.
- twenty

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You could pay that off over 6-7 years and live pretty comfortably on even a meh PI salary. I know a lot of undergraduates that would be pretty happy to only have 60k debt.unc0mm0n1 wrote:What? I wish I lived in the world where 60K (with compounding interest) is chump change.twentypercentmore wrote:60k is chump change, you won't even need LRAP to pay that off. On the other hand, UChi arguably has a better program. Whether or not that also translates into better job opportunities is anyone's guess.
I guess I'd say UVA. Neither choice is "wrong."
I should qualify that and say that 60k is no-question lots of money, and that you're spending money you could have spent buying a house or something, but ultimately 60k is not much in the overall scheme of law school debt.
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FloridaCoastalorbust

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Re: UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
uchi's LRAP is much better. go there. the extra 60k in cost is a non-factor.
- Doorkeeper

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Chicago is worth the extra $60k if you want clerking + BIGFED. LRAP mitigates the difference.
- twenty

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Re: UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
Stats seem pretty similar for clerking and bigfed. Aside from Chicago's convoluted grading system that gives feds a boner, I can't help but think that the school choices for OP's goals are pretty marginal in difference.Doorkeeper wrote:Chicago is worth the extra $60k if you want clerking + BIGFED. LRAP mitigates the difference.
If OP had any outside chance of doing biglaw, though, I'd say Chicago with no question.
- ThetaX

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Re: UVA $$$ v Chicago $$
The difference in price and overall placement gives you the luxury of choosing a school for purposes other than those previously mentioned. Would you rather enjoy the more suburban Charlottesville, or the more urban Chicago? Arguably the 3 best years of your life will be spent in either city, so do not neglect to consider your preferred living conditions.
- jbagelboy

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Lol if law school is the best 3 yrs of your life, then your college experience must have really sucked.ThetaX wrote:The difference in price and overall placement gives you the luxury of choosing a school for purposes other than those previously mentioned. Would you rather enjoy the more suburban Charlottesville, or the more urban Chicago? Arguably the 3 best years of your life will be spent in either city, so do not neglect to consider your preferred living conditions.
But I agree at this price differential, location/culture would have been a real consideration. Although still Chicago.