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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
200k is way too much for GULC, and 290k is an obscene amount of debt from anywhere. Even if you get a biglaw job, it will take you 5+ years of heavy payment before you can actually begin saving / enjoying any of the money, and few people even last that long in biglaw.
Wait a few years, save some money, potentially retake the LSAT for a bigger scholarship, see if NYC firms raise salaries. Coming out of law school with 290k of debt is just not worth it; the next 8 years will be much more comfortable for you if you stay in your current job.
Wait a few years, save some money, potentially retake the LSAT for a bigger scholarship, see if NYC firms raise salaries. Coming out of law school with 290k of debt is just not worth it; the next 8 years will be much more comfortable for you if you stay in your current job.
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
Btw can't retake
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
So much debt. That's terrifying.
Are you a splitter?
Are you a splitter?
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
Given the current prices, Penn > GULC everytime unless you specifically want DC PI, maybe.
Btw, we don't accept can't retake as a proper response. Be more specific or retake.
Btw, we don't accept can't retake as a proper response. Be more specific or retake.
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
NYU waitlist has seen significant movement over the past week, some with aid. Best bet for u
Chicago over-admitted initially, packed the WL with some high numbers. Not likely
CLS reserve is largely a soft ding
Im not sure about Penn WL movement
Any of these are justifiable to attend at sticker IMO due to placement and LRAP, but I personally wouldn't do it w/o a safety net. Think about how you want to live for the next 6-7 years and review your family/parents finances in depth.
Teachers salary like $35K? Your take home pay with biglaw and sticker debt would be ~50K + substantial bonus. Arguably better w/ postdebt exit options
GULC at 42% prospects is indefensible @200K ImO unless you commit to their LRAP, still risky
See if you get off a WL with $. Otherwise retake stay working 1 more yr & pay off ug debt
Chicago over-admitted initially, packed the WL with some high numbers. Not likely
CLS reserve is largely a soft ding
Im not sure about Penn WL movement
Any of these are justifiable to attend at sticker IMO due to placement and LRAP, but I personally wouldn't do it w/o a safety net. Think about how you want to live for the next 6-7 years and review your family/parents finances in depth.
Teachers salary like $35K? Your take home pay with biglaw and sticker debt would be ~50K + substantial bonus. Arguably better w/ postdebt exit options
GULC at 42% prospects is indefensible @200K ImO unless you commit to their LRAP, still risky
See if you get off a WL with $. Otherwise retake stay working 1 more yr & pay off ug debt
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
Why? Bet you can.senorhosh wrote:Btw can't retake
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
3.1 174. Will it help?North wrote:Why? Bet you can.senorhosh wrote:Btw can't retake
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
Sufficient. No, it likely won't.
If you get in off the WL at any of those schools, I would absolutely go there over Gtown at 200k.
Consider the investment is a risky one and that is an insane amount of debt. But an investment that I don't believe is terrible.
If you get in off the WL at any of those schools, I would absolutely go there over Gtown at 200k.
Consider the investment is a risky one and that is an insane amount of debt. But an investment that I don't believe is terrible.
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
When did u apply? Also, did you apply to Northwestern?senorhosh wrote:3.1 174. Will it help?North wrote:Why? Bet you can.senorhosh wrote:Btw can't retake
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
Early. NU WLed me yesterday.untar614 wrote:When did u apply? Also, did you apply to Northwestern?senorhosh wrote:3.1 174. Will it help?North wrote:Why? Bet you can.senorhosh wrote:Btw can't retake
To be honest i was PTing 178-180 but took the lsat on 3 hours sleep. But i think the risk is higher than the reward for retake
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
If you don't get in off the WLs, I would retake(for dat ego) and ED UVA. You should have this year, honestly.(eta: easy to say this in retrospect, my bad.)
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
I don't think retaking is necessary here. I'd probably just hang out on the waitlists, and then ED Penn (with UVA as a backup) next year.
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
You're a sufficient splitter so that you're not going to get more than 30-50k at any T14 school.
This being said, GULC is not worth 200k if you're targeting LA and NYC. I would grab CCN if you get in off of the WL. If you don't get accepted off any CCN waitlist, I would ED to UVA next year and hope you can grab CCN at sticker or maybe Northwestern or MVP with a bit of money.
This being said, GULC is not worth 200k if you're targeting LA and NYC. I would grab CCN if you get in off of the WL. If you don't get accepted off any CCN waitlist, I would ED to UVA next year and hope you can grab CCN at sticker or maybe Northwestern or MVP with a bit of money.
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
Ok this pretty much lines up with what i was thinking. Just making sure I'm not crazy
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
Where did you get this info?jbagelboy wrote:NYU waitlist has seen significant movement over the past week, some with aid. Best bet for u
Chicago over-admitted initially, packed the WL with some high numbers. Not likely
CLS reserve is largely a soft ding
Im not sure about Penn WL movement
Any of these are justifiable to attend at sticker IMO due to placement and LRAP, but I personally wouldn't do it w/o a safety net. Think about how you want to live for the next 6-7 years and review your family/parents finances in depth.
Teachers salary like $35K? Your take home pay with biglaw and sticker debt would be ~50K + substantial bonus. Arguably better w/ postdebt exit options
GULC at 42% prospects is indefensible @200K ImO unless you commit to their LRAP, still risky
See if you get off a WL with $. Otherwise retake stay working 1 more yr & pay off ug debt
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
Its speculation. Some think there were a lot of people at Chicago's ASW. I suspect some of them were either guests (SO's and parents) or perhaps even plants by the admissions staff. At this point its just a rumoruntar614 wrote:Where did you get this info?jbagelboy wrote:NYU waitlist has seen significant movement over the past week, some with aid. Best bet for u
Chicago over-admitted initially, packed the WL with some high numbers. Not likely
CLS reserve is largely a soft ding
Im not sure about Penn WL movement
Any of these are justifiable to attend at sticker IMO due to placement and LRAP, but I personally wouldn't do it w/o a safety net. Think about how you want to live for the next 6-7 years and review your family/parents finances in depth.
Teachers salary like $35K? Your take home pay with biglaw and sticker debt would be ~50K + substantial bonus. Arguably better w/ postdebt exit options
GULC at 42% prospects is indefensible @200K ImO unless you commit to their LRAP, still risky
See if you get off a WL with $. Otherwise retake stay working 1 more yr & pay off ug debt
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
yes its speculation, but its a rather well educated guess.ChampagnePapi wrote:Its speculation. Some think there were a lot of people at Chicago's ASW. I suspect some of them were either guests (SO's and parents) or perhaps even plants by the admissions staff. At this point its just a rumoruntar614 wrote:Where did you get this info?jbagelboy wrote:NYU waitlist has seen significant movement over the past week, some with aid. Best bet for u
Chicago over-admitted initially, packed the WL with some high numbers. Not likely
CLS reserve is largely a soft ding
Im not sure about Penn WL movement
Any of these are justifiable to attend at sticker IMO due to placement and LRAP, but I personally wouldn't do it w/o a safety net. Think about how you want to live for the next 6-7 years and review your family/parents finances in depth.
Teachers salary like $35K? Your take home pay with biglaw and sticker debt would be ~50K + substantial bonus. Arguably better w/ postdebt exit options
GULC at 42% prospects is indefensible @200K ImO unless you commit to their LRAP, still risky
See if you get off a WL with $. Otherwise retake stay working 1 more yr & pay off ug debt
everyone who applied late (like feb and beyond) got WL, even with median numbers. I think this pointed to fear of overenrollment. yea, ASW was busy, but of course they will draw SOME from the WL -- what's important is to look at OP's numbers. There are people sitting on that WL with 3.8+/172+ who will get grabbed bfore a 3.1. For OP's purposes its a longshot.
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
North wrote:Why? Bet you can.senorhosh wrote:Btw can't retake
Lol

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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
99% of the time that's the case. In this 1% situation OP had a 174.enigmabk wrote:LolNorth wrote:Why? Bet you can.senorhosh wrote:Btw can't retake
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
What happened to USC/UCLA or Cornell? With a 174, I'd imagine they'd throw some $$$ at you.
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
Do thisDoorkeeper wrote:You're a sufficient splitter so that you're not going to get more than 30-50k at any T14 school.
This being said, GULC is not worth 200k if you're targeting LA and NYC. I would grab CCN if you get in off of the WL. If you don't get accepted off any CCN waitlist, I would ED to UVA next year and hope you can grab CCN at sticker or maybe Northwestern or MVP with a bit of money.
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
North wrote:99% of the time that's the case. In this 1% situation OP had a 174.enigmabk wrote:LolNorth wrote:Why? Bet you can.senorhosh wrote:Btw can't retake
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Re: GULC (total COA 200k) vs. CCNP (total COA ~290k)
I'm very surprised NU Waitlisted you, usually you are their wet dream because they love that LSAT and have few competition from other schools that will stomach that gpa. For reference, I know people with worse numbers than you who got NU $. Oh well, splitter cycles are weird.
Anyway, GULC at 200k is just plain bad, CCN at sticker is defensible, so out of those options go big.
Anyway, GULC at 200k is just plain bad, CCN at sticker is defensible, so out of those options go big.
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