UW vs. Cardozo Forum

[redtalun]

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[Winston1984]

Answer all of these questions, so people can give you advice.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=206299

[redtalun]

think I covered them all now

[Bronck]

Retake or don't go (especially since you've only take it once). You could hit the 170s and try for NU.

USNWR specialty rankings are a flame. Neither Cardozo nor UW have particularly good employment prospects, and you should NOT be taking out that much in loan $$ for them.

[Winston1984]

Retake or don't go (especially since you've only take it once). You could hit the 170s and try for NU.

USNWR specialty rankings are a flame. Neither Cardozo nor UW have particularly good employment prospects, and you should NOT be taking out that much in loan $$ for them.

This. It sucks what happened to you your sophomore year because that really killed your gpa. NU is splitter friendly and a good addendum should work in your case. Oh, and I hope you are healthy and well now!

[redtalun]

Retake or don't go (especially since you've only take it once). You could hit the 170s and try for NU.

USNWR specialty rankings are a flame. Neither Cardozo nor UW have particularly good employment prospects, and you should NOT be taking out that much in loan $$ for them.

Is UW really that bad? My impression was that it's highly regarded in the PNW seeing as there's practically no other law schools worth mentioning.

[Bronck]

Retake or don't go (especially since you've only take it once). You could hit the 170s and try for NU.

USNWR specialty rankings are a flame. Neither Cardozo nor UW have particularly good employment prospects, and you should NOT be taking out that much in loan $$ for them.

Is UW really that bad? My impression was that it's highly regarded in the PNW seeing as there's practically no other law schools worth mentioning.

It's certainly the best law school in the PNW but there are very few legal jobs in the PNW. Check out the LST stats. 1/3 of students don't even get a legal job, and only 10% get a job that can reasonably pay off the kind of debt you're looking at.

[empyreanrrv]

UW is not bad if you aren't looking for biglaw, but that CoA is much too high and you cannot count on it being portable to the east coast.

[Winston1984]

It is a great option for in-state students with a nice scholarship who don't have biglaw aspirations. I wouldn't attend unless your COA was cut in half.

[Kalinda]

Retake or don't go (especially since you've only take it once). You could hit the 170s and try for NU.

USNWR specialty rankings are a flame. Neither Cardozo nor UW have particularly good employment prospects, and you should NOT be taking out that much in loan $$ for them.

Is UW really that bad? My impression was that it's highly regarded in the PNW seeing as there's practically no other law schools worth mentioning.

It's certainly the best law school in the PNW but there are very few legal jobs in the PNW. Check out the LST stats. 1/3 of students don't even get a legal job, and only 10% get a job that can reasonably pay off the kind of debt you're looking at.

Exactly. UW is the best in the PNW, but people are competing with T14 natives who want to work in their home area. It would be a hard degree to transfer to the East coast. What type of work do you do? Do you work for Boeing? I believe they used to have one of the tuition reimbursement programs in the country, but did scale back a bit. Is your current job able to help finance school?

Definitely take the LSAT again, with a high score and a great addendum, NU isn't unrealistic.

[Mal Reynolds]

150k is pushing it even at a top 14 law school, IMO. Don't go and please retake.

[rad lulz]

Considering the job prospects I wouldn't blow $140k of savings on those

See lawschooltransparency.com

[jbagelboy]

Only go to UW if you want to practice in the pacific northwest. But caution, plenty of Berkeley grads to compete with in Seattle too. Im curious if U Minnesota has any reach out there since theres basically nothing inbetween them... (Not saying they would I honestly dont know)

Im assuming its your parents savings going into COA. I dont know why people have been talking about loans and debt, my understanding is you will have none. Considering the limits of your GPA, going to UW and working locally with no debt doesnt seem too bad.. Seattle is really nice. If you retake and kill it, you COULD yield a T14 WL-> acceptance, but I still think its unlikely (even for NU 3.0 is basically the lowest floor). T20 definitely though but then your not far from UW anyway.

[Dr. Dre]

But caution, plenty of Berkeley grads

what is it with your obsession over Berkeley Law? You're going to the WAY better school—Columbia. Get over Cal.

[redtalun]

Only go to UW if you want to practice in the pacific northwest. But caution, plenty of Berkeley grads to compete with in Seattle too. Im curious if U Minnesota has any reach out there since theres basically nothing inbetween them... (Not saying they would I honestly dont know)

Im assuming its your parents savings going into COA. I dont know why people have been talking about loans and debt, my understanding is you will have none. Considering the limits of your GPA, going to UW and working locally with no debt doesnt seem too bad.. Seattle is really nice. If you retake and kill it, you COULD yield a T14 WL-> acceptance, but I still think its unlikely (even for NU 3.0 is basically the lowest floor). T20 definitely though but then your not far from UW anyway.

No, it would be my savings I'd graduate debt free, but will have exhausted the savings I've accumulated from working 5+ years as a software engineer.
I tend to believe that it's my GPA more than my LSAT that's hurting me. I even considered at one point to first get a MS EE degree (have BS already) before applying with the sole purpose of inflating my GPA (I'd re-take the LSATs as well). I dismissed this idea, because I felt I would be wasting 2 years of my life just to manicure my resume.

[FKASunny]

They only count your undergraduate courses for GPA. I have a slightly worse GPA than you, but I have much better offers. It's your LSAT score holding you back.

[romothesavior]

Too expensive. Retake and reapply, or don't to go law school

[Cellar-door]

Retake, even with that GPA breaking 170 will get you into better schools and significantly more money at Cardozo.

[PRgradBYU]

You're better off taking your $140k savings to Vegas and betting it all on red or black. I strongly suggest you retake and shoot for more $$$.

[trapster]

Only go to UW if you want to practice in the pacific northwest. But caution, plenty of Berkeley grads to compete with in Seattle too. Im curious if U Minnesota has any reach out there since theres basically nothing inbetween them... (Not saying they would I honestly dont know)

Im assuming its your parents savings going into COA. I dont know why people have been talking about loans and debt, my understanding is you will have none. Considering the limits of your GPA, going to UW and working locally with no debt doesnt seem too bad.. Seattle is really nice. If you retake and kill it, you COULD yield a T14 WL-> acceptance, but I still think its unlikely (even for NU 3.0 is basically the lowest floor). T20 definitely though but then your not far from UW anyway.

No, it would be my savings I'd graduate debt free, but will have exhausted the savings I've accumulated from working 5+ years as a software engineer.
I tend to believe that it's my GPA more than my LSAT that's hurting me. I even considered at one point to first get a MS EE degree (have BS already) before applying with the sole purpose of inflating my GPA (I'd re-take the LSATs as well). I dismissed this idea, because I felt I would be wasting 2 years of my life just to manicure my resume.

Don't gamble 5+ years of work experience and savings on these options. Yeah, your gpa isn't going to help you, but you can help yourself by retaking.

[Cellar-door]

Only go to UW if you want to practice in the pacific northwest. But caution, plenty of Berkeley grads to compete with in Seattle too. Im curious if U Minnesota has any reach out there since theres basically nothing inbetween them... (Not saying they would I honestly dont know)

Im assuming its your parents savings going into COA. I dont know why people have been talking about loans and debt, my understanding is you will have none. Considering the limits of your GPA, going to UW and working locally with no debt doesnt seem too bad.. Seattle is really nice. If you retake and kill it, you COULD yield a T14 WL-> acceptance, but I still think its unlikely (even for NU 3.0 is basically the lowest floor). T20 definitely though but then your not far from UW anyway.

No, it would be my savings I'd graduate debt free, but will have exhausted the savings I've accumulated from working 5+ years as a software engineer.
I tend to believe that it's my GPA more than my LSAT that's hurting me. I even considered at one point to first get a MS EE degree (have BS already) before applying with the sole purpose of inflating my GPA (I'd re-take the LSATs as well). I dismissed this idea, because I felt I would be wasting 2 years of my life just to manicure my resume.

Your GPA is set, graduate classes don't change your LSAC GPA. However getting over 170 on your LSAT would give you a huge boost as I noted in my first response. If your WE is good Northwestern is in play, ED at UVA is an option, WUSTL, GW, a lot more doors will open, and even the places you are in now will offer more money.