UT($$) v. Michigan Forum
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Lido997

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UT($$) v. Michigan
As the deadline approaches I'm pretty torn on how to proceed here. The two options I'm choosing between:
Michigan (sticker) = $252,152 Total
UT ($$) = $123,247 Total
I am hoping to get at least a little bit of money out of Michigan but am doubtful about that.
I have ties to CA/Chicago and would like to end up in CA after school but am not married to this.
If all things were equal I would choose Texas over Michigan because I felt like I would be a little happier there over the course of my studies, but I realize that isn't exactly the most credited reason to attend a school especially when I could see myself getting along just fine in Ann Arbor. That said, I am very nervous about not having Texas ties and being screwed if I don't do well enough to crack an out of state market. On the other end, I'd be doubling my debt by going to Michigan.
Other considerations:
- I am currently working at a firm in CA that likes Texas grads, I feel like I have a foot in the door here but am by no means guaranteed employment at graduation.
- I am not hellbent on BigLaw but the "planned" career trajectory is BigLaw --> in house, but maybe i'll find a different muse in school so who knows
- I look better in a scarf than cowboy boots
Michigan (sticker) = $252,152 Total
UT ($$) = $123,247 Total
I am hoping to get at least a little bit of money out of Michigan but am doubtful about that.
I have ties to CA/Chicago and would like to end up in CA after school but am not married to this.
If all things were equal I would choose Texas over Michigan because I felt like I would be a little happier there over the course of my studies, but I realize that isn't exactly the most credited reason to attend a school especially when I could see myself getting along just fine in Ann Arbor. That said, I am very nervous about not having Texas ties and being screwed if I don't do well enough to crack an out of state market. On the other end, I'd be doubling my debt by going to Michigan.
Other considerations:
- I am currently working at a firm in CA that likes Texas grads, I feel like I have a foot in the door here but am by no means guaranteed employment at graduation.
- I am not hellbent on BigLaw but the "planned" career trajectory is BigLaw --> in house, but maybe i'll find a different muse in school so who knows
- I look better in a scarf than cowboy boots
Last edited by Lido997 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:43 pm, edited 2 times in total.
- shifty_eyed

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
Why not USC/UCLA if CA is the goal?
I don't think I would go to UT for that price if I wasn't set on TX, but UT does place a small but significant percentage in CA.
I don't think I would go to UT for that price if I wasn't set on TX, but UT does place a small but significant percentage in CA.
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Lido997

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
shifty_eyed wrote:Why not USC/UCLA if CA is the goal?
I don't think I would go to UT for that price if I wasn't set on TX, but UT does place a small but significant percentage in CA.
USC Waitlisted me and I got into UCLA but even after negotiating they won't give me any aid. I would rather pay a few thousand more and go to the better school in Michigan if I am going the sticker route.
- philosoraptor

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
I'd say UT. People get CA all the time from here if they have ties. Michigan is just not worth a quarter-million. (Also, put up a poll.)
Either way, though, it's a pretty big risk.
Either way, though, it's a pretty big risk.
- sinfiery

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
How do you feel about living in Texas or NYC if you can't get CA?
Order the following:
CA Biglaw
CA PI/Govt/Business/Midlaw/Any legal CA Job
NYC Biglaw
TX Biglaw
Starbucks in CA
Order the following:
CA Biglaw
CA PI/Govt/Business/Midlaw/Any legal CA Job
NYC Biglaw
TX Biglaw
Starbucks in CA
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Lido997

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
sinfiery wrote:How do you feel about living in Texas or NYC if you can't get CA?
Order the following:
CA Biglaw
CA PI/Govt/Business/Midlaw/Any legal CA Job
NYC Biglaw
TX Biglaw
Starbucks in CA
0 issue ending up in Texas. I would like NYC a little less, but as mentioned I'm pretty flexible where I end up.
As for the ordering:
Starbucks in CA
CA BigLaw
TX BigLaw
NYC BigLaw/CA PI/Govt/Business/Midlaw
- shifty_eyed

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
well, you don't need to go to law school to work at Starbucks in CA, so I recommend not going 
- sinfiery

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
^^^ It has been decided.
But given your ordering and the astronomical debt difference, I'd pick UT here.
Also look into getting in-state tuition your 2l/3l year. It's a significant difference for UT
But given your ordering and the astronomical debt difference, I'd pick UT here.
Also look into getting in-state tuition your 2l/3l year. It's a significant difference for UT
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Gunnar Stahl

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
I'd say Texas out of the two because Michigan simply isn't worth 250k.
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Lido997

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
It's a very prestigious Starbucksshifty_eyed wrote:well, you don't need to go to law school to work at Starbucks in CA, so I recommend not going
- WokeUpInACar

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
I'm just flabbergasted at UCLA giving you literally no aid with how much splitter love they've shown this cycle.
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Lido997

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
Thanks for the advice, its much appreciated. They actually included In-state as part of the scholarship package, so that has already been achieved.sinfiery wrote:^^^ It has been decided.![]()
But given your ordering and the astronomical debt difference, I'd pick UT here.
Also look into getting in-state tuition your 2l/3l year. It's a significant difference for UT
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BigZuck

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
Ugh, not loving either of these choices given your ties (or lack thereof) and geographical preferences.
No chance of a NU or Cornell with money?
No chance of a NU or Cornell with money?
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Lido997

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
BigZuck wrote:Ugh, not loving either of these choices given your ties (or lack thereof) and geographical preferences.
No chance of a NU or Cornell with money?
Waitlisted at NU and didn't apply to Cornell (stupid in retrospect but I have an irrational hatred of that school, same with Duke)
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Lido997

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
You and me both.WokeUpInACar wrote:I'm just flabbergasted at UCLA giving you literally no aid with how much splitter love they've shown this cycle.
- bizzybone1313

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
+1 on the Duke front-- I can't stand that school, but I am going to apply anyways just in case. It was a very happy day for me when they lost in NCAA tournament.Lido997 wrote:BigZuck wrote:Ugh, not loving either of these choices given your ties (or lack thereof) and geographical preferences.
No chance of a NU or Cornell with money?
Waitlisted at NU and didn't apply to Cornell (stupid in retrospect but I have an irrational hatred of that school, same with Duke)
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BigZuck

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
Not really sure how anyone can help you make a rational decision if you insist on being irrational.Lido997 wrote:BigZuck wrote:Ugh, not loving either of these choices given your ties (or lack thereof) and geographical preferences.
No chance of a NU or Cornell with money?
Waitlisted at NU and didn't apply to Cornell (stupid in retrospect but I have an irrational hatred of that school, same with Duke)
- Rahviveh

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
Dook hating is perfectly rationalBigZuck wrote:Not really sure how anyone can help you make a rational decision if you insist on being irrational.Lido997 wrote:BigZuck wrote:Ugh, not loving either of these choices given your ties (or lack thereof) and geographical preferences.
No chance of a NU or Cornell with money?
Waitlisted at NU and didn't apply to Cornell (stupid in retrospect but I have an irrational hatred of that school, same with Duke)
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GMGP

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Re: UT($$) v. Michigan
Yeah the undergrad and basketball team shit on our law school rep. It sucks.ChampagnePapi wrote:Dook hating is perfectly rationalBigZuck wrote:Not really sure how anyone can help you make a rational decision if you insist on being irrational.Lido997 wrote:BigZuck wrote:Ugh, not loving either of these choices given your ties (or lack thereof) and geographical preferences.
No chance of a NU or Cornell with money?
Waitlisted at NU and didn't apply to Cornell (stupid in retrospect but I have an irrational hatred of that school, same with Duke)