ND ($) vs. Cornell Forum

[Charlie.Home]

My cycle has boiled down to this decision: ND with 22k/year no stips or Cornell @ sticker.

Ideally I want to work corporate biglaw, & would love to work in Chicago but other places would be acceptable.

[twenty]

Tell Cornell you're stuck between ND and Cornell, and if they offered you 15k a year, you'd put down a seat deposit right now.

[clone22]

you want big law? cornell without a doubt

[balzie94]

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[letsgoirish]

Cornell is a feeder for NYC, see Cornell placement data. If you are content with biglaw NY, that's definitely your move (from a Cornellian's perspective).

If Chicago is your town, ND will get you closer to biglaw there, but competition is steep for the major players if you're coming from ND (current ND law 2L with biglaw NYC job). You'll need a legit gpa.

You sound more intent on biglaw than geo region. Try to get money from Cornell and go there.

[BullShitWithBravado]

Cornell is a feeder for NYC, see Cornell placement data. If you are content with biglaw NY, that's definitely your move (from a Cornellian's perspective).

If Chicago is your town, ND will get you closer to biglaw there, but competition is steep for the major players if you're coming from ND (current ND law 2L with biglaw NYC job). You'll need a legit gpa.

You sound more intent on biglaw than geo region. Try to get money from Cornell and go there.

[ndirish2010]

Tell NDLS that you have a T14 offer and won't consider NDLS for less than 30K/yr. Also, negotiate w/ Cornell. I don't think Cornell is worth sticker, but if you want NYC biglaw, median from Cornell can get you there.

[cinephile]

Neither option is great, both too expensive.

[bluepenguin]

Cornell at least has PILIPP, although idk how strong it is. I thought ND's LRAP was pretty limited, but I may be mistaken. Might be able to minimize the damage from a bottom-third finish (assuming you can find a PI legal job from the bottom third at Cornell...).

[ndirish2010]

Our LRAP is pretty weak. It starts covering you at 54K I believe, but it isn't 100% until 34K.

[bluepenguin]

Isn't also subject to available funds? I seem to remember seeing that somewhere.

[ndirish2010]

Isn't also subject to available funds? I seem to remember seeing that somewhere.

This is true. I'm not doing PI, but I've heard the funds seem to be available for the past year or two. But it is always contingent.

[BigZuck]

Neither seems to be the right answer. Unless you can get them both to come down in price significantly (I'm thinking 15k+ a year). Don't think that's gonna happen without a:

Retake!

[jcdjgd]

Cornell is not worth sticker.

ND will most likely offer you a lot more when you tell them about Cornell acceptance/negotiate. They doubled my scholly offer from 20 to 40 (per year) after negotiating, so go give that a try and enjoy ND with over half off.

[suralin]

Cornell is not worth sticker.

ND will most likely offer you a lot more when you tell them about Cornell acceptance/negotiate. They doubled my scholly offer from 20 to 40 (per year) after negotiating, so go give that a try and enjoy ND with over half off.

Why do you say that? Cornell's NALP placement numbers are pretty damn good, particularly since OP wants BigLaw.

[Crowing]

I don't see why people ITT are so against Cornell sticker. I don't buy Cornell being any worse than the rest of the lower T-14.

[Tom Joad]

I don't see why people ITT are so against Cornell sticker. I don't buy Cornell being any worse than the rest of the lower T-14.

Cornell is fine. Lots of people just think HYS are the only schools worth sticker.

[BigZuck]

I could not see myself attending Cornell at sticker but maybe I could if I were younger, had different life circumstances, and I liked the location more. So that's why I said that, maybe I should have tried to remove my own personal situation from the equation.

I don't think paying sticker there is indefensible however.