Phoenix School of Law Forum

[kg31613]

Alright, so reading lots of posts on here, I realize this website hates this school. I need to know why it is such a terrible idea. I graduated from ASU about 4 years ago, and have always wanted to go to law school. I didn't go when I originally graduated because of health complications. Now, I want to go back. Unfortunately I had a 2.51 undergrad GPA because I started college when I was 16, and had new found freedom, and screwed around for 2 years before realizing I was ruining my future. I took the LSAT and scored a 164. I know that is my strong suit. I have a bad feeling there is no way I would get into ASU, since I already did terribly there. I have to stay in the valley because this is where my husband works. Why is Phoenix School of Law such a terrible idea? It is my only option. Is it a bad idea to start there then transfer to ASU, is that even a possibility?

[nickb285]

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[prezidentv8]

a one in three chance of getting you a job as a lawyer

Seems a bit generous, but I was too lazy to go look at LST, so you may be right.

[rinkrat19]

Out of a graduating class of 131 people, only 49 people got full-time, long-term, bar-passage-required jobs (i.e. actual lawyering jobs). Of those 49, 41 got jobs at firms of 2-10 people and 5 went solo. Many of those small firm jobs are what we call "shitlaw," which is miserable AND has the added bonus of making crap money that will never pay off any loans they probably took out. A lot of them are likely a few students, unable to find anything better than working at Starbucks and desperate for work, banding together to open their own small firm office with no experience (law school, alas, does not actually teach you how to be a lawyer), limited capital and no clients: a recipe for failure. (The school doesn't even have the balls to report their salary data...which means it ain't good.)

It is a shitty, shitty law school and should be burned to the ground for the good of humanity. You'd be FAR better off going to nursing school or truck driving school or something that actually might provide opportunity.

[gaud]

PSOL is wayyyy expensive. If you're set on going, make sure you get a SUBSTANTIAL scholarship w/o crap stipulations.

I know of one transfer student at ASU who went there and they were top 1% after the first year. I don't know how much lower ASU would scoop... so transferring might be difficult.

I wouldn't go to law school if it were my only option. That's just me though.

[Nova]

If you dont get into UA-R/ASU and are Arizona or bust.... You should probably sit out and try again next year.

[shifty_eyed]

Out of a graduating class of 131 people, only 49 people got full-time, long-term, bar-passage-required jobs (i.e. actual lawyering jobs). Of those 49, 41 got jobs at firms of 2-10 people and 5 went solo. Many of those small firm jobs are what we call "shitlaw," which is miserable AND has the added bonus of making crap money that will never pay off any loans they probably took out. A lot of them are likely a few students, unable to find anything better than working at Starbucks and desperate for work, banding together to open their own small firm office with no experience (law school, alas, does not actually teach you how to be a lawyer), limited capital and no clients: a recipe for failure. (The school doesn't even have the balls to report their salary data...which means it ain't good.)

It is a shitty, shitty law school and should be burned to the ground for the good of humanity. You'd be FAR better off going to nursing school or truck driving school or something that actually might provide opportunity.

Very well said. If being a lawyer is your true calling, study hard and retake the LSAT. I'm not sure what ASU's median LSAT is, but if you can score above it, you will have a chance at admission.

[rwhyAn]

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This is the reason why my GPA plummeted at ASU. Kg31613, I think your LSAT is around ASU's 75th percentile, so it still may be worth a shot even with that GPA, especially with applications declining like they are. I'm not going to say that you're in a great position, but you may get a waitlist/admit. Good luck and go Sun Devils!