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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by cron1834 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:53 pm

Nothing surprises me re: this place.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by chuckbass » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:58 pm

I wonder if you win the scholarship, can you just opt for the headphones instead?

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by JCougar » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:06 pm

scottidsntknow wrote:I wonder if you win the scholarship, can you just opt for the headphones instead?
They're obviously more valuable.

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Post by JCougar » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:10 pm

I cannot believe the ABA allows this profession to continually embarrass itself by allowing places like this to open up shop.

No practicing lawyers approve of this stuff from Biglaw partners on down. It really makes you wonder who's in charge and why this is allowed to happen. Lawyers have an image problem as it is. We don't need televangelist-level schools like Indy Tech (run by people like adpc) making things even worse.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by Tiago Splitter » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:11 pm

No need to wonder. Law deans are in charge, and it's disproportionately law deans from terrible schools.

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Post by Hand » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:15 pm

JCougar wrote:I cannot believe the ABA allows this profession to continually embarrass itself by allowing places like this to open up shop.

No practicing lawyers approve of this stuff from Biglaw partners on down. It really makes you wonder who's in charge and why this is allowed to happen. Lawyers have an image problem as it is. We don't need televangelist-level schools like Indy Tech (run by people like adpc) making things even worse.
in all fairness, this place is not accredited

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by JCougar » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:35 pm

Hand wrote:
JCougar wrote:I cannot believe the ABA allows this profession to continually embarrass itself by allowing places like this to open up shop.

No practicing lawyers approve of this stuff from Biglaw partners on down. It really makes you wonder who's in charge and why this is allowed to happen. Lawyers have an image problem as it is. We don't need televangelist-level schools like Indy Tech (run by people like adpc) making things even worse.
in all fairness, this place is not accredited
Oh, it will be when the time comes. It will be. Trust me, these people are running a 3-year, $90,000 bar review course at this point. Their medians are even better than a number of schools that are still accredited. They'll get just enough people to pass the bar under the loose standards that exist today, and from thereon out, it's difficult to lose accredition. Like three new schools were accredited in the last two years despite all the problems.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by bearsfan23 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:45 pm

JCougar wrote:
Hand wrote:
JCougar wrote:I cannot believe the ABA allows this profession to continually embarrass itself by allowing places like this to open up shop.

No practicing lawyers approve of this stuff from Biglaw partners on down. It really makes you wonder who's in charge and why this is allowed to happen. Lawyers have an image problem as it is. We don't need televangelist-level schools like Indy Tech (run by people like adpc) making things even worse.
in all fairness, this place is not accredited
Oh, it will be when the time comes. It will be. Trust me, these people are running a 3-year, $90,000 bar review course at this point. Their medians are even better than a number of schools that are still accredited. They'll get just enough people to pass the bar under the loose standards that exist today, and from thereon out, it's difficult to lose accredition. Like three new schools were accredited in the last two years despite all the problems.
You've provided zero evidence that this school will ever be ABA accredited, and it seems like a foregone conclusion this place will end up being shut down soon - its just losing too much money for the school.

Try not to let your complete hate for the legal profession ruin every thread

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by Tiago Splitter » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:15 pm

Better medians aren't hard to get when you only enroll 30 people.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by BigZuck » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:20 pm

I think I missed it: Where has it been reported that this school won't get its accreditation?

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Post by North » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:32 pm

bearsfan23 wrote:You've provided zero evidence that this school will ever be ABA accredited, and it seems like a foregone conclusion this place will end up being shut down soon - its just losing too much money for the school.

Try not to let your complete hate for the legal profession ruin every thread
Can you explain what you think there is to love about the legal profession

Also please provide evidence that the school won't be accredited, right now I'm seeing zero

Also how is Cougs ruining threads with his complete hate. Can you please link to the other threads he ruined

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by JCougar » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:33 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:Better medians aren't hard to get when you only enroll 30 people.
True, but class size doesn't matter for ABA accreditation. It's the pass rate that matters, and smaller class size may actually make it easier because you can give each student more individualized attention.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by JCougar » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:37 pm

bearsfan23 wrote: and it seems like a foregone conclusion this place will end up being shut down soon - its just losing too much money for the school.
If it shuts down because it's losing too much money, than it won't be the ABA that's shutting it down. It will be the scambloggers that you live to hate who are making prospective students more aware of the risk you take on by going to law school.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by JCougar » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:42 pm

Also, I don't hate everything about the legal profession. If I did, I'd have chosen a different path by now. I don't really hate anything...but I do strongly disapprove of the way legal education is being handled. If I have any problems with the profession itself, it's pretty much limited to problems that arise as a result of the poor fashion in which legal education is managed. The profession itself is fine. It's filled with a mix of smart, interesting people and sociopaths like anywhere else...except the smart people are a bit smarter and the sociopaths a bit more anti-social.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by Paul Campos » Fri May 01, 2015 11:32 am

FYI:

http://www.news-sentinel.com/article/2015150439984

I hadn't realized that andre douglas pond cummings goes by "dre" in less formal settings.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by cron1834 » Fri May 01, 2015 11:46 am

^shocking, all around.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by 03152016 » Fri May 01, 2015 11:48 am

The school has room for 350 students and expected about 100 in its first class, but enrolled only 28. Since then, however, enrollment has more than doubled to 59.
i can't believe dean cumming managed to pass this off to the reporter
it doubled because this is their second year in business, not because the school is attracting more students
they had almost the same enrollment this year as last

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by Flokkness » Fri May 01, 2015 12:48 pm

This thread cured my boredom.

Really, just stunning.

Edit: This thread and Nando's TTT blog are (still) first-page results when you Google the school. Such a huge public service.
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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by prezidentv8 » Fri May 01, 2015 1:06 pm

Paul Campos wrote:FYI:

http://www.news-sentinel.com/article/2015150439984

I hadn't realized that andre douglas pond cummings goes by "dre" in less formal settings.
The capitalization logic here was fun:
interim Dean dre cummings

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by hiima3L » Fri May 01, 2015 1:34 pm

Brut wrote:
The school has room for 350 students and expected about 100 in its first class, but enrolled only 28. Since then, however, enrollment has more than doubled to 59.
i can't believe dean cumming managed to pass this off to the reporter
it doubled because this is their second year in business, not because the school is attracting more students
they had almost the same enrollment this year as last
Unbelievable

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Post by ManoftheHour » Fri May 01, 2015 1:56 pm

Brut wrote:
The school has room for 350 students and expected about 100 in its first class, but enrolled only 28. Since then, however, enrollment has more than doubled to 59.
i can't believe dean cumming managed to pass this off to the reporter
it doubled because this is their second year in business, not because the school is attracting more students
they had almost the same enrollment this year as last
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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by Tiago Splitter » Fri May 01, 2015 1:57 pm

I'm curious to know if being rejected on the first go-round for accreditation is really as common as Indy Tech wants us to believe.

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by BigZuck » Fri May 01, 2015 2:09 pm

"we feel we are moving in a positive direction," said Matt Bair, Indiana Tech director of marketing and communications

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Post by Mack.Hambleton » Fri May 01, 2015 2:20 pm

Paul Campos wrote:FYI:

http://www.news-sentinel.com/article/2015150439984

I hadn't realized that andre douglas pond cummings goes by "dre" in less formal settings.
Yeah and he does that hip hop stuff

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Re: Indiana Tech Law School

Post by Yukos » Fri May 01, 2015 2:44 pm

By the time ITLS is accredited, bar passage rate won't considered for ABA accreditation because it isn't a fair measurement--according to schools with atrocious bar passage rates. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/20/busin ... -fire.html

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