NYLS 33K vs Brooklyn Law Forum

[LawStudent2K12]

Take the money?

[Danteshek]

Stips?

[LawStudent2K12]

yea, stay in top 75%, very doable in my book

[MrAnon]

Your book? What book is that. avoid both these schools. How or why anyone would consider them is beyond me

[LawStudent2K12]

well not everyone can get into nyu and columbia, but they still want to have the ability to practice/use their degree to advance their careers

[mr.hands]

well not everyone can get into nyu and columbia, but they still want to have the ability to practice/use their degree to advance their careers

I get the strange feeling that you did poorly on the LSAT

[rad lulz]

well not everyone can get into nyu and columbia, but they still want to have the ability to practice/use their degree to advance their careers

Your assumption is that these schools will give you a solid shot at the ability to practice. Go look at the employment stats. You assumption is unwarranted.

[LawStudent2K12]

I wouldn't say poorly, I did "alright". I know many guys who attended these schools and have gone into practice. In the end it was who they knew and their will that got them where they are now.

[Nova]

Brooklyn at sticker is a no go.

Retake is BY FAR your best option. If you are unwilling, take the money. Just know that the odds are stacked greatly against you. As in a 2/3 chance of not getting a FT LT JD reqd job by nine months after graduation.

•47.3% of graduates were known to be employed in long-term, full-time legal jobs. This figure includes no school-funded jobs..
•59.6% graduates were employed in long-term jobs.
•63.7% graduates were employed in full-time jobs.

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•35.5% of graduates were known to be employed in long-term, full-time legal jobs. This figure includes an unknown number school-funded jobs.
•59.8% graduates were employed in long-term jobs.
•60.6% graduates were employed in full-time jobs.

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[Teflon_Jeff]

I wish I could summon nova, he makes such beautiful little employment boxes.

EDIT: Hah, he was simul-posting them! Awesome!

OP: what are your numbers? (LSAT, GPA)

In general, neither of these schools is worth the money you're about to borrow for them.

[Nova]

I wish I could summon nova, he makes such beautiful little employment boxes.

Summoned

[LawStudent2K12]

160/3.2

[Nova]

160/3.2

Wait, is that 33k total, or per year?

Youll have to make a new screen name, but you should seriously retake. There are many schools in between NYLS and NYU that are worth attending with scholarships that are attainable with a 3.2

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[top30man]

well not everyone can get into nyu and columbia, but they still want to have the ability to practice/use their degree to advance their careers

Your assumption is that these schools will give you a solid shot at the ability to practice. Go look at the employment stats. You assumption is unwarranted.

This. And anyone can if they study and retake.

[Teflon_Jeff]

Retake.

Or alternately, attend one of these schools and pick a high-rise from which to throw yourself when you take out 200K in loans for absolutely no good gorram reason.

[LawStudent2K12]

160/3.2

Wait, is that 33k total, or per year?

Per year

[rad lulz]

160/3.2

Wait, is that 33k total, or per year?

Per year

NYLS is not worth attending under any circumstances.

[Nova]

160/3.2

Wait, is that 33k total, or per year?

Per year

Ok, thats what I originally assumed. So you are looking at about 55k tuition over 3 years + COL which im guessing is another 60k over three years. 99% of posters will not endorse attending a T3/T4 in a saturated market if one has to finance 100k+ to make it happen. Would you possibly be able to live with mama? Or do you have a boo who could take care of your COL over the next 3 years?

Rad is right, spending 3 years, even without taking into account the 100k+ debt, for a 35% chance at ftltjdr employment is a bad idea. Taking out 100k debt to finance the opportunity is really bad idea, but still less bad, IMO, than attending BLS at sticker. Attending BLS and accumulating 200k+ debt for less than 50% chance at ftltjdr employment is dumb as fuck. A good idea would be to retake the LSAT.

[dingbat]

NYLS is not worth attending under any circumstances.

seconded. think about this: more graduates are unemployed than have a real legal job. This isn't a law school so much as a diploma mill.

[gardners2]

If you got a 160 the first time, you can do much better. I improved over 10 points from my original 158. I know how you feel about the scholarship. I applied to NYLS, way before I found TLS, and got a full ride. Thought about going, but instead retook and got basically the same offer from a TT. I should have turned the money down from the TT and reapplied. Basically, I am telling you to not make the same mistake that I made. If you get a 165+, you can get money from a lot of schools. Apps are way down, and schools are reaching deep into lower numbers.

[cinephile]

I know many guys who attended these schools and have gone into practice. In the end it was who they knew and their will that got them where they are now.

Who do you know?

Also, if you scored high enough on your retake to go somewhere like Brooklyn tuition-free, that would be a decent option, especially if you have a job lined up for you.

[grimfan]

People with substandard grades who get low scores on the MCAT don't go to the University of American Samoa Medical School to pursue their dream of becoming a doctor no matter what. If they are below a certain cutoff point, these students are forced to realize that they simply haven't made the cut for med school, and they pursue other paths.

It should be the same with law school. The job market out there clearly states that not everyone is entitled to a legal career. If you haven't got the grades and the test scores for whatever reason, then save yourself (or your benefactor) the cost and trouble of paying for a near-worthless degree.

The law school culture in America seems to have made everyone think that they're entitled to a legal career, but the reality is that they're only entitled to a legal education. The difference is huge, and unscrupulous law schools like NYLS are banking on the fact that many people won't make that distinction.