Southwestern sticker or Whittier with 27k? Forum

[GueritaPeloChino]

Hey all,

So I got accepted into Whittier (T4) with a $27,500 merit scholarship, and Southwestern (T3) with no scholarship. I would have to relocate to attend Whittier, so I am estimating about $15,000 of that going to housing. My main priority is transferring out to a T1 or T2. My good friend just got accepted into Pepperdine after placing in the top 10% at Whittier, so I have some hope for that school. I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school. My question is, keeping in mind that transferring is my main priority, do I take the scholarship despite half of it going to relocation costs, or pay sticker at Southwestern?
Any advice would be appreciated...Thanks.

I was in the same boat as you last year. I was considering attending Whittier with a scholarship. It would have been the biggest screw up of my life. Those scholarship stipulations are horrible. Not to mention their 50% attrition rate. I see that you are thinking of Pepperdine, why not retake? I'm glad I listened to everyone on TLS last year who told me to retake and never count on transferring. I studied for the LSAT like mad and increased my LSAT 11 points. I have a horrible gpa for California law schools and I can't leave SoCal. However, retaking is the best decision i ever make. I got into UC Davis and Pepperdine with money. Pepperdine's stipulation is nowhere near Whittier's. 5%? 10%? They're crazy!! I withdrew 2 days before Orientation.

[shredderrrrrr]

Hey all,

So I got accepted into Whittier (T4) with a $27,500 merit scholarship, and Southwestern (T3) with no scholarship. I would have to relocate to attend Whittier, so I am estimating about $15,000 of that going to housing. My main priority is transferring out to a T1 or T2. My good friend just got accepted into Pepperdine after placing in the top 10% at Whittier, so I have some hope for that school. I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school. My question is, keeping in mind that transferring is my main priority, do I take the scholarship despite half of it going to relocation costs, or pay sticker at Southwestern?
Any advice would be appreciated...Thanks.

I was in the same boat as you last year. I was considering attending Whittier with a scholarship. It would have been the biggest screw up of my life. Those scholarship stipulations are horrible. Not to mention their 50% attrition rate. I see that you are thinking of Pepperdine, why not retake? I'm glad I listened to everyone on TLS last year who told me to retake and never count on transferring. I studied for the LSAT like mad and increased my LSAT 11 points. I have a horrible gpa for California law schools and I can't leave SoCal. However, retaking is the best decision i ever make. I got into UC Davis and Pepperdine with money. Pepperdine's stipulation is nowhere near Whittier's. 5%? 10%? They're crazy!! I withdrew 2 days before Orientation.

Listen to this a guy.

[harryk387]

Hey all,

So I got accepted into Whittier (T4) with a $27,500 merit scholarship, and Southwestern (T3) with no scholarship. I would have to relocate to attend Whittier, so I am estimating about $15,000 of that going to housing. My main priority is transferring out to a T1 or T2. My good friend just got accepted into Pepperdine after placing in the top 10% at Whittier, so I have some hope for that school. I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school. My question is, keeping in mind that transferring is my main priority, do I take the scholarship despite half of it going to relocation costs, or pay sticker at Southwestern?
Any advice would be appreciated...Thanks.

I was in the same boat as you last year. I was considering attending Whittier with a scholarship. It would have been the biggest screw up of my life. Those scholarship stipulations are horrible. Not to mention their 50% attrition rate. I see that you are thinking of Pepperdine, why not retake? I'm glad I listened to everyone on TLS last year who told me to retake and never count on transferring. I studied for the LSAT like mad and increased my LSAT 11 points. I have a horrible gpa for California law schools and I can't leave SoCal. However, retaking is the best decision i ever make. I got into UC Davis and Pepperdine with money. Pepperdine's stipulation is nowhere near Whittier's. 5%? 10%? They're crazy!! I withdrew 2 days before Orientation.

Curious as to your "horrible gpa" and lsat score...

I got accepted to southwestern and will be starting there in a few weeks and honestly don't understand all the hate towards the school, yet...i guess

[rad lulz]

Hey all,

So I got accepted into Whittier (T4) with a $27,500 merit scholarship, and Southwestern (T3) with no scholarship. I would have to relocate to attend Whittier, so I am estimating about $15,000 of that going to housing. My main priority is transferring out to a T1 or T2. My good friend just got accepted into Pepperdine after placing in the top 10% at Whittier, so I have some hope for that school. I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school. My question is, keeping in mind that transferring is my main priority, do I take the scholarship despite half of it going to relocation costs, or pay sticker at Southwestern?
Any advice would be appreciated...Thanks.

I was in the same boat as you last year. I was considering attending Whittier with a scholarship. It would have been the biggest screw up of my life. Those scholarship stipulations are horrible. Not to mention their 50% attrition rate. I see that you are thinking of Pepperdine, why not retake? I'm glad I listened to everyone on TLS last year who told me to retake and never count on transferring. I studied for the LSAT like mad and increased my LSAT 11 points. I have a horrible gpa for California law schools and I can't leave SoCal. However, retaking is the best decision i ever make. I got into UC Davis and Pepperdine with money. Pepperdine's stipulation is nowhere near Whittier's. 5%? 10%? They're crazy!! I withdrew 2 days before Orientation.

Curious as to your "horrible gpa" and lsat score...

I got accepted to southwestern and will be starting there in a few weeks and honestly don't understand all the hate towards the school, yet...i guess

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This is why

[breadbucket]

Retake college, ED to Pepperdine.

[Jah'rakal]

southwestern isn't half bad, it's extremely local, but i know for a fact its alumni is very helpful to its own, if u r happy with a mid sized firm job in LA, southwestern is ok, but don't expect to take that degree to other states

[rickgrimes69]

southwestern isn't half bad, it's extremely local, but i know for a fact its alumni is very helpful to its own, if u r happy with a mid sized firm job in LA, southwestern is ok, but don't expect to take that degree to other states

Dude you have to stop or I won't be able to take you seriously anymore

[Jah'rakal]

southwestern isn't half bad, it's extremely local, but i know for a fact its alumni is very helpful to its own, if u r happy with a mid sized firm job in LA, southwestern is ok, but don't expect to take that degree to other states

Dude you have to stop or I won't be able to take you seriously anymore

mostly from personal research brah, i was thinking abt southwestern myself, contacted school, who directed to some of their alums with their own firms, and i looked at the profiles of these firms, pure southwestern grads hired

[20130312]

southwestern isn't half bad, it's extremely local, but i know for a fact its alumni is very helpful to its own, if u r happy with a mid sized firm job in LA, southwestern is ok, but don't expect to take that degree to other states

Dude you have to stop or I won't be able to take you seriously anymore

Anymore?

[rickgrimes69]

southwestern isn't half bad, it's extremely local, but i know for a fact its alumni is very helpful to its own, if u r happy with a mid sized firm job in LA, southwestern is ok, but don't expect to take that degree to other states

Dude you have to stop or I won't be able to take you seriously anymore

Anymore?

Keep forgetting to press my sarcasm button

[romothesavior]

southwestern isn't half bad, it's extremely local, but i know for a fact its alumni is very helpful to its own, if u r happy with a mid sized firm job in LA, southwestern is ok, but don't expect to take that degree to other states

Dude you have to stop or I won't be able to take you seriously anymore

mostly from personal research brah, i was thinking abt southwestern myself, contacted school, who directed to some of their alums with their own firms, and i looked at the profiles of these firms, pure southwestern grads hired

Lolok

[MikeTZ]

Id try the october one. What was ur biggest weakness? I know many have issues with the games section. its thats the case you can improve your score by a lot. check outSPAM becuz an extra 5pts will make a hugeeeeee difference! best of luck

[TTTehehe]

Do the right thing.

[rickgrimes69]

Do the right thing.

Quality necro there Spike Lee

[TTTehehe]

Do the right thing.

Quality necro there Spike Lee

lol.

[hunterinc]

I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school

I'm sure you are, slugger.

UDPATE: How does top 3% with 2 CALI's and top 8 Appellate Briefs out of 340 students sound.....slugger?

[Cobretti]

I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school

I'm sure you are, slugger.

UDPATE: How does top 3% with 2 CALI's and top 8 Appellate Briefs out of 340 students sound.....slugger?

I love that you held onto that hate for the last year to post this.

[North]

I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school

I'm sure you are, slugger.

UDPATE: How does top 3% with 2 CALI's and top 8 Appellate Briefs out of 340 students sound.....slugger?

YOU ARE A GOD DUDE

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE DOUBTED YOU

HOW COULD WE HAVE KNOWN WE WERE IN THE PRESENCE

OF GREATNESS

[hunterinc]

I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school

I'm sure you are, slugger.

UDPATE: How does top 3% with 2 CALI's and top 8 Appellate Briefs out of 340 students sound.....slugger?

I love that you held onto that hate for the last year to post this.

I think his avatar photo was the sole reason...

[Tekrul]

I think I joined the boards after this whole thing went down. I'm curious... what happened here?

[romothesavior]

Congrats on doing well. Still doesn't really change or disprove anything that was said ITT before. Going to these schools is still a terrible idea.

Also, don't alt "slugger."

[guinness1547]

I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school

I'm sure you are, slugger.

UDPATE: How does top 3% with 2 CALI's and top 8 Appellate Briefs out of 340 students sound.....slugger?

I hope you're using that class rank to transfer to a better school.

[Nova]

I think I joined the boards after this whole thing went down. I'm curious... what happened here?

Everyone told the guy not to attend a TTT and he did it anyway....

I am confident I can place in the top 10% at either school

I'm sure you are, slugger.

UDPATE: How does top 3% with 2 CALI's and top 8 Appellate Briefs out of 340 students sound.....slugger?

I love that you held onto that hate for the last year to post this.

Congrats on your reckless disregard of probabilities tenatively working out.

Sorry the same cant be said for the vast majority of your class.

Good luck with possibly transfering and eventually securing long term, full time, JD required employment.

[romothesavior]

I am genuinely glad that this worked out for the OP (as Nova said, tentatively). But let's not forget that there are countless others in his class who are looking back (or will soon look back) and realize that they made the biggest mistake of their life by going to Whitter/Southwestern. No one- not me, not anyone else- has ever maintained that it is impossible to have success from schools like these. Some people do kill it, transfer out, and have good careers. OP's success really doesn't prove or disprove anything; he's an outlier and beat the odds. But making major investment decisions based on extreme outliers is very irrational, which is why people shouldn't attend these schools. Sure, sometimes 2-7 beats pocket aces, but that doesn't make it a good bet. There are dozens, even hundreds of others in his 1L class who thought they would buck the trend as well, and now they're suffocating under a mountain of debt with virtually no shot at a decent legal job.

Also, lest OP gets too cocky, I know people who transferred from schools of this caliber to my T20. Many of them struck out at OCI. I think transferring to a school like UCLA/USC is the credited move and based on his post history it sounds like that's what he intends to do, but it is by no means a guarantee of anything. OP, your prize for killing it at your TTTT and transferring up may simply be more debt. I don't doubt that you'll find some form of legal employment, but the high-paying jobs that you'll likely need to service your debt may still be hard to come by. I sincerely wish you the best of luck though.

[Tekrul]

Guess I'm sympathetically happy the guy crushed it, as we're all here to help each other make good choices and succeed. But serving as it does to encourage others looking to make the same choice, I want to say:

Don't take a 150k bet on 3% odds. Worst. Casino. Game. Ever.