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[buster12]

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[flem]

Does Catholic have that awful top 25% stip on that scholarship?

[buster12]

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[flem]

but i feel confident that i could make that

So does everyone little breh. Get them to drop that awful stip or don't go there. What's your total COA at Richmond and where do you want to work? What's your LSAT/GPA?

[buster12]

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[Br3v]

coa would be roughly 18k a year. fortunately for me my parents are fronting 50%. 161/3.4 (not fantastic so I think going to the best school (richmond) is the smart choice)

How much did you study for LSAT?

[CanadianWolf]

Have you been offered a partial scholarship to Richmond ? Or are you deducting your parents loan/gift from your COA ?

[top30man]

but i feel confident that i could make that

So does everyone little breh. Get them to drop that awful stip or don't go there. What's your total COA at Richmond and where do you want to work? What's your LSAT/GPA?

Yeah don't go to catholic. They are known for section stacking. And I thought Iowa had TTT stips.

[MrPapagiorgio]

but i feel confident that i could make that

So does everyone little breh.

Yep. Shit, I was worried about making my 50% stip. Take this anecdote FWIW, I know of at least one person at my LS on full scholarship who had a 2.3 first semester. Success in UG and a high LSAT doesn't mean automatic success in LS.

[buster12]

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[twenty]

Put it this way; you will NOT be in the top 25% of your class. For the love of god, do not factor this in when you're choosing between two schools.

but is it worth racking up about $45k in debt?

Not for any school outside T20.

if you HADto make this decision, which avenue would you take?

If you're getting a parental gift, ask them to put the same money towards a downpayment on a home in an area you want to work in. Do not go to law school if these are your options.

[flem]

also, i don't really see the relevance in whether it is a scholarship to richmond or gift from family --- that being said, what do you guys think.

Because I'd feel bad to have my parents bankroll an education that leaves me a 50/50 shot at actual long term employment.

[sunynp]

Are your parents so rich that you don't have to worry about a career? If so then take their money. If not, you should not go to either school. Do not count on making that stip. Law schools that have stips give out the scholarship knowing that a number of people will lose them. They give the scholarship to more people than can keep them knowing that most people will pay full tuition rather than drop out - even if they keep the scholarship.

Law school is curved so you are competing against the mandatory curve - not just the other students.

[buster12]

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[rad lulz]

UPDATE: after an email to catholic they dropped the stipulation. My scholarship will be guaranteed. I need to let them know by Tuesday. What do you guys think?

I wouldn't go to Catholic, ever.

[Nova]

UPDATE: after an email to catholic they dropped the stipulation. My scholarship will be guaranteed. I need to let them know by Tuesday. What do you guys think?

I wouldn't go to Catholic, ever.

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Not worth 3 years of your life.

If youre not going to sit out/retake/reapply, go to Richmond.

[Br3v]

coa would be roughly 18k a year. fortunately for me my parents are fronting 50%. 161/3.4 (not fantastic so I think going to the best school (richmond) is the smart choice)

How much did you study for LSAT?

edit for helpful answer: OP I know nothing of these schools really, but if you would be happy at Catholic and its free, then go for it (coming from someone who once again, knows nothing of these schools) worse case scenario is you go to school for free and cant get a job and just have the debt from cost of living. Though if you really want to be a lawyer working at a big firm or something, I would consider perhaps trying the LSAT again and going to a better placing school (assuming catholic and Richmond do not place well, though once again, coming from someone who knows nothing of these schools)

[flem]

UPDATE: after an email to catholic they dropped the stipulation. My scholarship will be guaranteed. I need to let them know by Tuesday. What do you guys think?

If you're really anxious to go, it could be worse. I know two people that went to Catholic. One clerks for a superior court in DC, the other in unemployed.

I'd still retake if you actually want a shot at meaningful full time employment though. Only 50% of graduates land full time, bar passage required employment.

[Doorkeeper]

Are you ok with working in southern Virginia? If so, go Richmond.
Are you ok with the prospects of not getting a job, but living in the nation's capitol? If so, go Catholic.

Money seems to be moot here. Both are very cheap options.

[abc12345675]

Catholic is a full ride with no stip? Go there. People telling you not to are biglaw or bust T14ers. Free legal education is nothing to sneeze at, especially since you're not passing up a school like Cornell to head to Catholic for free..............Sign up for Catholic, enjoy the weight off your shoulders of no debt, and enjoy a crappy part of DC

[flem]

Catholic is a full ride with no stip? Go there. People telling you not to are biglaw or bust T14ers. Free legal education is nothing to sneeze at, especially since you're not passing up a school like Cornell to head to Catholic for free..............Sign up for Catholic, enjoy the weight off your shoulders of no debt, and enjoy a crappy part of DC

Not necessarily biglaw or bust, but if you're going to law school I assume you're full time legal employment or bust. Only half of Catholic grads get full time legal employment.

[rad lulz]

Catholic is a full ride with no stip? Go there. People telling you not to are biglaw or bust T14ers. Free legal education is nothing to sneeze at, especially since you're not passing up a school like Cornell to head to Catholic for free..............Sign up for Catholic, enjoy the weight off your shoulders of no debt, and enjoy a crappy part of DC

lol I'm not at a T14 you dolt. I wouldn't go to Catholic because it doesn't give you a good shot at even being a lawyer.

[abc12345675]

I can't believe people would advice against a free legal education from a top 100 law school. Sorry guys, I'm not on board with your advice..........OP, take the money. There is no stip at all, right? If that's the case go there and bust your butt. You'll be a lawyer

[PennBull]

I can't believe people would advice against a free legal education from a top 100 law school. Sorry guys, I'm not on board with your advice..........OP, take the money. There is no stip at all, right? If that's the case go there and bust your butt. You'll be a lawyer

I think we need to have a TLS seminar on "opportunity costs."

[rad lulz]

I can't believe people would advice against a free legal education from a top 100 law school. Sorry guys, I'm not on board with your advice..........OP, take the money. There is no stip at all, right? If that's the case go there and bust your butt. You'll be a lawyer

Only 50 percent of 2010 grads got full time bar passage required jobs.