Loyola New Orleans - scholarship contingent on 2.7 Forum

[labf]

Good People of TLS:

I received what I think is a very good scholarship from Loyola, which knocks tuition down to 23k a year. I am keen on attending this school but the scholarship is contingent on a 2.7 annually. Is this an unreasonable GPA? I intend on doing law school right, unlike my first few years of undergrad where I wasn't intellectually curious (i.e. I screwed around). I cannot find any suitable information on a curve or anything to that effect on this school.

My interests are in public interest, litigation. I'd like to be a public defender. I'm not in it to make money or go into corporate law or intellectual property law so I can sue college students for $675 000 in "damages" associated with P2Ping some MP3s. But, of course, I want to minimize debt and have a job that requires a JD and bar passage. International and trade law interests me as well, but again, I will not know until I take classes and study. Anyone have any viewpoints in this regard?

[flem]

Most importantly, what is the curve at Loyola? A 2.7 could be deceptive if they have a very harsh curve.

Additionally, where do you want to practice? Also, do you want to be a public defender or work in litigation? They're two very specific career routes.

[labf]

Most importantly, what is the curve at Loyola? A 2.7 could be deceptive if they have a very harsh curve.

Additionally, where do you want to practice? Also, do you want to be a public defender or work in litigation? They're two very specific career routes.

Hey what up The Dude?

I am trying to figure out the curve. I cannot find it.

I would want to live in New Orleans. I love it here. I really like Louisiana. Texas is great, but I am not aiming for it. In other words, if a great job in Texas beckons and there is nadda in LA, I would jump right on that.

I do not know what I want to do specifically. Public defense is of interest, but so would private criminal defense. Or working as a prosecutor. I don't know. I feel that I want to immerse myself in this before I declare what I want. I think anyone is fooling themselves if they know as a 0L what they want to do. But I do know I do not want to work for an oil and gas firm taking people's land. But I would love to fight on people's behalf. They say the legal market is shrinking, but I find that odd considering the government is growing/encroaching. Maybe I'm naive.

[labf]

a bump for the ages! anyone with an opinion into this school and/or an opinion into the feasibility of maintaining a minimum 2.7gpa for someone who doesn't plan on dicking around in law school despite living in NOLA?

Thanks.

[justicefishy]

a bump for the ages! anyone with an opinion into this school and/or an opinion into the feasibility of maintaining a minimum 2.7gpa for someone who doesn't plan on dicking around in law school despite living in NOLA?

Thanks.

Sent you a PM with the relevant info but here it is!

Top 10%: 3.488
Top 25%: 3.250
Top 33%: 3.178
Top 50%: 3.017
Top 75%: 2.750

[labf]

a bump for the ages! anyone with an opinion into this school and/or an opinion into the feasibility of maintaining a minimum 2.7gpa for someone who doesn't plan on dicking around in law school despite living in NOLA?

Thanks.

Sent you a PM with the relevant info but here it is!

Top 10%: 3.488
Top 25%: 3.250
Top 33%: 3.178
Top 50%: 3.017
Top 75%: 2.750

Great to know! So it shouldn't be too much of an issue if I try.

[rad lulz]

I mean the scholarship is dece, but you're basically going to an also-ran school in the market. I wouldn't do it. Retake or don't go lil breh.

[CincinnatusND]

You should go, that's a great scholarship and if you truly love what you want to do you'll make it happen

[laxbrah420]

I mean the scholarship is dece, but you're basically going to an also-ran school in the market. I wouldn't do it. Retake or don't go lil breh.

Seriously? What do you propose this guy do ITE?

[rad lulz]

I mean the scholarship is dece, but you're basically going to an also-ran school in the market. I wouldn't do it. Retake or don't go lil breh.

Seriously? What do you propose this guy do ITE?

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[CincinnatusND]

I mean the scholarship is dece, but you're basically going to an also-ran school in the market. I wouldn't do it. Retake or don't go lil breh.

Seriously? What do you propose this guy do ITE?

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Wow you guys are cynical assholes

[laxbrah420]

What? I'm saying he should go bro

[rad lulz]

OP just go and enjoy mottles and baubles in 3 year, duh

[CincinnatusND]

Litigation is pretty easy to get into if you are passionate about it OP

[rad lulz]

Also you're not gonna do international law bro. It's not really a thing.

[laxbrah420]

Now you're going to mock him? Where the fuck do you get off?

[RedBirds2011]

If you want New Orleans, the school is definitely legit for a decent price. If you want to live somewhere else...no. Louisiana is a bit weird. LSU if you want the whole state (loyola is better for NOLA though) and Tulane if you want more out of state options.

Edit: I'm not convinced Tulane is really worth the extra money as NOLA as its prospects don't appear THAT much better for Louisiana as a state. But again, what Tulane does do is let you spread your wings to some other states at least if need be (see Texas).

[CincinnatusND]

Also you're not gonna do international law bro. It's not really a thing.

The fuck? So international legal disputes just settle themselves?

[flem]

Also you're not gonna do international law bro. It's not really a thing.

The fuck? So international legal disputes just settle themselves?

lol

[goldenflash19]

OP, would you have to pay cost of living on top of tuition? COL + 23K a year tuition would be more than I would pay for Loyola's job prospects. If so, I'd retake to get a better scholly at Loyola or possibly a good offer to Tulane.

[Aberzombie1892]

a bump for the ages! anyone with an opinion into this school and/or an opinion into the feasibility of maintaining a minimum 2.7gpa for someone who doesn't plan on dicking around in law school despite living in NOLA?

Thanks.

Sent you a PM with the relevant info but here it is!

Top 10%: 3.488
Top 25%: 3.250
Top 33%: 3.178
Top 50%: 3.017
Top 75%: 2.750

Those must be that "at graduation" GPAS (after the standard 1L curve). I know 2 years ago, Loyolas first year gpa median was a 2.67. So, unless they have quietly changed there curve, which I don't think is possible, the first year curve is a B-.

[labf]

If you want New Orleans, the school is definitely legit for a decent price. If you want to live somewhere else...no. Louisiana is a bit weird. LSU if you want the whole state (loyola is better for NOLA though) and Tulane if you want more out of state options.

Edit: I'm not convinced Tulane is really worth the extra money as NOLA as its prospects don't appear THAT much better for Louisiana as a state. But again, what Tulane does do is let you spread your wings to some other states at least if need be (see Texas).

This is the one reason I am reluctant. I do not know if I want to live in Louisiana for a long time. I love NOLA and I loooooooove weird. But I love Texas and I know I would love it there. I got accepted to South Tx College of Law as well as I loooove Houston, and Texas has more population, more cities, more job prospects, more options.

I still need to think about this.

OP, would you have to pay cost of living on top of tuition? COL + 23K a year tuition would be more than I would pay for Loyola's job prospects. If so, I'd retake to get a better scholly at Loyola or possibly a good offer to Tulane.

No, no COLA. But I have saved up ~$40 000. The loans where I am from are interests free until 6 months after graduation. Grants are included in those loans.

Define "job prospects". Do you mean finding a legal job in general, such as public interest jobs like public defense or finding a job with big law so I can sue single mothers for $550 000/downloaded MP3? Or take over people's land in imminent domain claims?

If I want to be rich, I'd take the risk adverse route, like becoming an air traffic controller, elevator repairman, miner, etc. I'm not doing this for the money. And if I want to be comfortable, I'd stay with the airline I'm currently working for.

[labf]

I also want to point out that I'm an outsider....from canaduh. I love NOLA but I do not know if it is the best trajectory for finding work so I can settle in the USA. That, and the civil/common law programs... I would hate to take civil law and be locked into LA.

Other choice is South TX College of law.... seems like there is more choice, more opportunity that way.

[IAFG]

a bump for the ages! anyone with an opinion into this school and/or an opinion into the feasibility of maintaining a minimum 2.7gpa for someone who doesn't plan on dicking around in law school despite living in NOLA?

Thanks.

Sent you a PM with the relevant info but here it is!

Top 10%: 3.488
Top 25%: 3.250
Top 33%: 3.178
Top 50%: 3.017
Top 75%: 2.750

Those must be that "at graduation" GPAS (after the standard 1L curve). I know 2 years ago, Loyolas first year gpa median was a 2.67. So, unless they have quietly changed there curve, which I don't think is possible, the first year curve is a B-.

THERE IS A SCHOOL WITH A B- MEDIAN?!?!!?

[goldenflash19]

Define "job prospects". Do you mean finding a legal job in general, such as public interest jobs like public defense or finding a job with big law so I can sue single mothers for $550 000/downloaded MP3? Or take over people's land in imminent domain claims?

If I want to be rich, I'd take the risk adverse route, like becoming an air traffic controller, elevator repairman, miner, etc. I'm not doing this for the money. And if I want to be comfortable, I'd stay with the airline I'm currently working for.

By "job prospects," I mean finding meaningful, full-time legal employment. Check out lawschooltransparency.com for Loyola NOLA. Less than 60% of grads were reported as having full-time legal jobs. None of these jobs are school-funded, but this figure is still disconcerting. I would not take out a lot of loans to go there, especially in light of the fact you don't have ties to the area.