Whittier vs. Chapman for Intellectual Property Forum

[ssanders]

I know Whittier has an established program, but I can't seem to find any decent information about how IP is covered at Chapman. I spoke with someone there and they said it is included with their Entertainment Law focus, but they will have a professor call me and fill me in with any questions...

...until then though, I'd love to hear any personal experiences people have in regards to their IP focus at either school.

Thanks!

[drmguy]

You should really take a look at the employment threads.

[rad lulz]

Retake or don't go.

Shitty employment outcomes.

[Ludo!]

Whittier doesn't have any established programs in anything, they are a barely accredited shit hole. Do not pick a law school based on any specialty programs or "IP focus." Your sole concern should be job prospects and those are horrendous at both of these schools (but Whitter is the worse of the two). Retake the LSAT and reapply aiming for schools with a better likelihood of actually getting you a job in IP

[BearsGrl]

Whittier doesn't have any established programs in anything, they are a barely accredited shit hole. Do not pick a law school based on any specialty programs or "IP focus." Your sole concern should be job prospects and those are horrendous at both of these schools (but Whitter is the worse of the two). Retake the LSAT and reapply aiming for schools with a better likelihood of actually getting you a job in IP

Your second statement isn't true. That is all.

[drmguy]

I will be more specific.

Absolutely no to Whittier.

As for Chapman, less than 40% of their graduates had long term legal jobs.

You will regret either of these choices for the rest of your life.

[ssanders]

Lol, aw... c'mon, guys. I'm not too worried about employment prospects.

That aside, though, my brother went to Whittier Law school and is doing fantastic now at a small local firm (he recently became partner). I happen to like the people/campus there as well. Chapman is nice too.

In the end, Whittier offered me a bit of a scholarship, so that makes me more inclined to go that route, but Chapman is obviously a bit higher in the ranking... just not sure of what they have for people interested in technology/IP.

With that said -- I appreciate the reality check, but I really feel confident in myself.... enough to wager a decent chunk of change on it. So... aside from brimstone, any thoughts? =P

[BearsGrl]

I will be more specific.

Absolutely no to Whittier.

As for Chapman, less than 40% of their graduates had long term legal jobs.

You will regret either of these choices for the rest of your life.

Do you know any Chapman graduates? I do. The one that I know is doing just fine. Talked to him weeks ago. He graduated during the brunt of it and it was bad then, but he is doing fine now. He's now in a small practice that he established himself with other individuals.

While not ideal, Chapman is better than Whittier.

[tedalbany]

Lol, aw... c'mon, guys. I'm not too worried about employment prospects.

Why? Do you have a guaranteed job? Or do you just have a weird debt and unemployment fetish?

[tedalbany]

I will be more specific.

Absolutely no to Whittier.

As for Chapman, less than 40% of their graduates had long term legal jobs.

You will regret either of these choices for the rest of your life.

Do you know any Chapman graduates? I do. The one that I know is doing just fine. Talked to him weeks ago. He graduated during the brunt of it and it was bad then, but he is doing fine now. He's now in a small practice that he established himself with other individuals.

While not ideal, Chapman is better than Whittier.

Stop giving advice. If even one person listens to you, that's one ruined life on your conscience.

[Ludo!]

I will be more specific.

Absolutely no to Whittier.

As for Chapman, less than 40% of their graduates had long term legal jobs.

You will regret either of these choices for the rest of your life.

Do you know any Chapman graduates? I do. The one that I know is doing just fine. Talked to him weeks ago. He graduated during the brunt of it and it was bad then, but he is doing fine now. He's now in a small practice that he established himself with other individuals.

While not ideal, Chapman is better than Whittier.

Oh look more anecdotal evidence from BearsGrl! Wow you know ONE Chapman graduate who's doing fine. I guess OP should go there then because of those stats. 100% of graduates known by BearsGrl are now employed! I'm surprised that's not in Chapman's brochure

[071816]

Lol, aw... c'mon, guys. I'm not too worried about employment prospects.

[drmguy]

I will be more specific.

Absolutely no to Whittier.

As for Chapman, less than 40% of their graduates had long term legal jobs.

You will regret either of these choices for the rest of your life.

Do you know any Chapman graduates? I do. The one that I know is doing just fine. Talked to him weeks ago. He graduated during the brunt of it and it was bad then, but he is doing fine now. He's now in a small practice that he established himself with other individuals.

While not ideal, Chapman is better than Whittier.

You have to be kidding me.

Rags to Riches Billionaires

If only I was aware that the key to being a billionaire was being poor.

[Ludo!]

Lol, aw... c'mon, guys. I'm not too worried about employment prospects.

That aside, though, my brother went to Whittier Law school and is doing fantastic now at a small local firm (he recently became partner). I happen to like the people/campus there as well. Chapman is nice too.

In the end, Whittier offered me a bit of a scholarship, so that makes me more inclined to go that route, but Chapman is obviously a bit higher in the ranking... just not sure of what they have for people interested in technology/IP.

With that said -- I appreciate the reality check, but I really feel confident in myself.... enough to wager a decent chunk of change on it. So... aside from brimstone, any thoughts? =P

You should be worried about employment prospects. That should be the only thing you are worried about. Unless your brother, or somebody else you know, is 100% able to offer you a job at graduation then both of these schools are horrible decisions.

[BearsGrl]

I will be more specific.

Absolutely no to Whittier.

As for Chapman, less than 40% of their graduates had long term legal jobs.

You will regret either of these choices for the rest of your life.

Do you know any Chapman graduates? I do. The one that I know is doing just fine. Talked to him weeks ago. He graduated during the brunt of it and it was bad then, but he is doing fine now. He's now in a small practice that he established himself with other individuals.

While not ideal, Chapman is better than Whittier.

Stop giving advice. If even one person listens to you, that's one ruined life on your conscience.

Please state where I gave advice.

I didn't know that people could listen on the net. I thought people read words on the net. My bad.

[071816]

Here we go...

[BearsGrl]

Deleted - Not worth it.

[drmguy]

It's kind of tragic that most people would read this thread and think that we are all trolling.

[tedalbany]

Deleted - Not worth it.

Not worth it or you just don't know how to work the quote feature?

[rad lulz]

Lol, aw... c'mon, guys. I'm not too worried about employment prospects.

Why? Do you have a guaranteed job? Or do you just have a weird debt and unemployment fetish?

She is:

[BearsGrl]

Deleted - Not worth it.

Not worth it or you just don't know how to work the quote feature?

I deleted my post, hence not worth it. But do go on.

[BearsGrl]

Lol, aw... c'mon, guys. I'm not too worried about employment prospects.

Why? Do you have a guaranteed job? Or do you just have a weird debt and unemployment fetish?

She is:

You know that OP is a she?

[tedalbany]

Deleted - Not worth it.

Not worth it or you just don't know how to work the quote feature?

I deleted my post, hence not worth it. But do go on.

No, you put your post embedded in the quote, realized this confirms everyone's sneaking suspicion that you don't know how to internet, got embarrassed, then quickly edited it while still maintaining an odd sense of smug superiority

[bigeast03]

OP- They don't have information on IP because they placed 15 students in firms with more than 25 lawyers in 2010. You can't really do IP as a solo practitioner.

Either option is a terrible financial decision, regardless of cost and debt outlook. Please don't go to either. Retake/reapply if you truly want to do IP law. Find a job and forget law school if you don't want to retake.

[rayiner]

Do you know any Chapman graduates? I do. The one that I know is doing just fine. Talked to him weeks ago. He graduated during the brunt of it and it was bad then, but he is doing fine now. He's now in a small practice that he established himself with other individuals.

While not ideal, Chapman is better than Whittier.

Oh look more anecdotal evidence from BearsGrl! Wow you know ONE Chapman graduate who's doing fine. I guess OP should go there then because of those stats. 100% of graduates known by BearsGrl are now employed! I'm surprised that's not in Chapman's brochure

People don't go to shitty schools because of their great analytical reasoning skills.