Final decision - the more opinions the better Forum

[swishin and dishin]

Thanks for all of the help in the past, and I feel confident I am down to the right two at this point. My final decision will be between Fordham w 30k and brooklyn w full and 5k each year. I'm sure it is easy to tell I want to practice in the NYC market, and at this point money and job stability are the two main factors driving my decision.
At this point I am leaning towards Fordham but I want to be sure that a 60k investment over Brooklyn is worth it.
Thanks so much everyone!

[dingbat]

Thanks for all of the help in the past, and I feel confident I am down to the right two at this point. My final decision will be between Fordham w 30k and brooklyn w full and 5k each year. I'm sure it is easy to tell I want to practice in the NYC market, and at this point money and job stability are the two main factors driving my decision.
At this point I am leaning towards Fordham but I want to be sure that a 60k investment over Brooklyn is worth it.
Thanks so much everyone!

Do you mean $30k per year or $30k total?
If you're getting $30k per year, go to Fordham; if $30k total go to Brooklyn

That is general advice; your personal circumstances might warrant a different response

[swishin and dishin]

90k total, 30k each year at Fordham

[dingbat]

That's what I thought.
Go to Fordham, unless your long term goals require minimal debt (eg PI - and even that could be covered by LRAP)

[Tadatsune]

90k total, 30k each year at Fordham

Fordham is the easy choice here. Have fun.

[swishin and dishin]

I'm just wondering why the quick answer is Fordham. Is the money difference not so significant or is the gap between the schools larger than I thought? Is the feeling that job prospects will be terribly different?
I really appreciate the advice

Would Brooklyn w a 10k stipend change anything, or no matter the money is it definitely Fordham.

[dingbat]

I'm just wondering why the quick answer is Fordham. Is the money difference not so significant or is the gap between the schools larger than I thought? Is the feeling that job prospects will be terribly different?
I really appreciate the advice

Would Brooklyn w a 10k stipend change anything, or no matter the money is it definitely Fordham.

Fordham is definitely a better school and at $30k per year is a very good offer.

Here's some comparisons, based on 2010 employment data (and assuming graduates who don't report are unemployed)

................................................................Brooklyn.............Fordham
Working for law firms of 50+ attorneys:................17.9%................35.6%
Judicial Clerkship...........................................6.8%.................12.4%
Public Interest...............................................6.2%.................12.7%
Unemployed or unreported...............................14.5%..................7.8%

So at Fordham you're nearly doubling your chances of working for a law firm, doing PI, or clerking, the three most desirable outcomes for a law degree, while halving your chances of being unemployed.

Note: this is an incomplete picture of employment prospects. However, these are the best metrics to use.

For a different perspective, the NLJ250 lists give the following:

.....................Brooklyn...............Fordham
2012..............6.59%..................19.58%
2011..............N/A (<10.57%)........25.68%
2010..............N/A (<13.2%)..........29.4%
This trend continues:
2006..............10%......................34% (oldest I found, but I stopped looking)

Now tell me what price difference you think would make Brooklyn more attractive than Fordham.

[emkay625]

I would pick Fordham.

[Geon]

I'm just wondering why the quick answer is Fordham. Is the money difference not so significant or is the gap between the schools larger than I thought? Is the feeling that job prospects will be terribly different?
I really appreciate the advice

Would Brooklyn w a 10k stipend change anything, or no matter the money is it definitely Fordham.

Fordham is definitely a better school and at $30k per year is a very good offer.

Here's some comparisons, based on 2010 employment data (and assuming graduates who don't report are unemployed)

................................................................Brooklyn.............Fordham
Working for law firms of 50+ attorneys:................17.9%................35.6%
Judicial Clerkship...........................................6.8%.................12.4%
Public Interest...............................................6.2%.................12.7%
Unemployed or unreported...............................14.5%..................7.8%

So at Fordham you're nearly doubling your chances of working for a law firm, doing PI, or clerking, the three most desirable outcomes for a law degree, while halving your chances of being unemployed.

Note: this is an incomplete picture of employment prospects. However, these are the best metrics to use.

For a different perspective, the NLJ250 lists give the following:

.....................Brooklyn...............Fordham
2012..............6.59%..................19.58%
2011..............N/A (<10.57%)........25.68%
2010..............N/A (<13.2%)..........29.4%
This trend continues:
2006..............10%......................34% (oldest I found, but I stopped looking)

Now tell me what price difference you think would make Brooklyn more attractive than Fordham.

Ding bat ain't no ding bat

[dingbat]

Ding bat ain't no ding bat

I resent that

[thelawyler]

Fordham here.

[Nova]

I would pick Fordham.

+1

[Geon]

Ding bat ain't no ding bat

I resent that

I meant to say your smart

[dingbat]

Ding bat ain't no ding bat

I resent that

I meant to say your smart

Well then, thank you very much. (I think)