Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$) Forum
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Keepingcalm

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Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
In the interest of full disclosure I am mainly using this to reinforce my own desire to attend Cornell. That being said, I want to make sure I am not overlooking a major blunder.
I do want to work BIGLAW, Boston or NYC.
Not all that debt-averse, but obviously I don't relish it.
Lived in MA my entire life, so I'd prefer to end up in Boston, but if I had to choose BETWEEN Boston and BIGLAW I would choose BIGLAW.
WUSTL is included because I have ties and immediate family that live in the Mid-West.
Any input is appreciated.
I do want to work BIGLAW, Boston or NYC.
Not all that debt-averse, but obviously I don't relish it.
Lived in MA my entire life, so I'd prefer to end up in Boston, but if I had to choose BETWEEN Boston and BIGLAW I would choose BIGLAW.
WUSTL is included because I have ties and immediate family that live in the Mid-West.
Any input is appreciated.
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- paulshortys10

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
how much exactly at BC?
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bk1

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
You want biglaw? Probably Cornell.
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Keepingcalm

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
paulshortys10 wrote:how much exactly at BC?
84K
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elm84dr

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
Poll/Scholly info important here.
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Keepingcalm

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
Poll and scholly info included now.
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pferaso

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The marginal increase in your chances to land a Biglaw job from Cornell (about 10%) doesn´t justify the cost in my view. Try to negotiate some aid from Cornell, that could level the field.
- paulshortys10

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I agree with the last sentence .pferaso wrote:The marginal increase in your chances to land a Biglaw job from Cornell (about 10%) doesn´t justify the cost in my view. Try to negotiate some aid from Cornell, that could level the field.
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- top30man

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
Agreed. Also Cornell does a Boston job fair that's just their students. Also they have a decent but not spectacular lrap to bail you out if you miss big law.bk187 wrote:You want biglaw? Probably Cornell.
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bk1

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
wutpferaso wrote:The marginal increase in your chances to land a Biglaw job from Cornell (about 10%)
- top30man

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
Yeah I was about to say the same. Even the 2011 nlj data, which is among the worst in recent memory, Cornell was around 40% and BC was around 20%. This is a 100% difference, not 10%.bk187 wrote:wutpferaso wrote:The marginal increase in your chances to land a Biglaw job from Cornell (about 10%)
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bk1

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
I'm assuming he means in absolute terms, not in relative terms. Even then it still doesn't make sense.top30man wrote:Yeah I was about to say the same. Even the 2011 nlj data, which is among the worst in recent memory, Cornell was around 40% and BC was around 20%. This is a 100% difference, not 10%.
- 2014

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
129k at WUSTL puts you at what? like 170/3.8?
Do you have any of MVP as an option? Cornell at sticker would scare me.
Do you have any of MVP as an option? Cornell at sticker would scare me.
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woeisme

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
Cornell at sticker would scare you but not MVP? For OP's goals these are largely peer schools.2014 wrote:129k at WUSTL puts you at what? like 170/3.8?
Do you have any of MVP as an option? Cornell at sticker would scare me.
I vote Cornell, OP.
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rad lulz

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CanadianWolf

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
Try to negotiate with both BC & Cornell.
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woeisme

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Absent compelling circumstances, I don't think Cornell considers $ from non-T14s with the exception of Texas and sometimes UCLA. That's been my experience, anyway. Anyone else?CanadianWolf wrote:Try to negotiate with both BC & Cornell.
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CanadianWolf

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Then negotiate based on different factors with Cornell.
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woeisme

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Intrigued. Not sure how one does this or what you mean. But yeah, by all means, negotiate with whatever you can.CanadianWolf wrote:Then negotiate based on different factors with Cornell.
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Fair question but it seems like Cornell provides less mobility than the tier of schools above it while being admittedly a peer in NYC. Granted the OP favors NYC but options are always good.woeisme wrote:Cornell at sticker would scare you but not MVP? For OP's goals these are largely peer schools.2014 wrote:129k at WUSTL puts you at what? like 170/3.8?
Do you have any of MVP as an option? Cornell at sticker would scare me.
I vote Cornell, OP.
I was more trying to dig for his numbers though because if I'm right and he is at 170/3.8ish then he should be competitive for some sort of merit aid at Cornell which would make the decision far easier.
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woeisme

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Eh, I think MVBPDCN are equally mobile in the aggregate. I agree that a 170/3.8 should get some money from Cornell, though WUSTL has been known to throw full-rides at applicants with less impressive stats (e.g., 168/3.7)2014 wrote: I was more trying to dig for his numbers though because if I'm right and he is at 170/3.8ish then he should be competitive for some sort of merit aid at Cornell which would make the decision far easier.
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Keepingcalm

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Since it seems to relevant my stats were 167/3.7. And the only other t-14 I'm waiting on are NU and GULCwoeisme wrote:Eh, I think MVBPDCN are equally mobile in the aggregate. I agree that a 170/3.8 should get some money from Cornell, though WUSTL has been known to throw full-rides at applicants with less impressive stats (e.g., 168/3.7)2014 wrote: I was more trying to dig for his numbers though because if I'm right and he is at 170/3.8ish then he should be competitive for some sort of merit aid at Cornell which would make the decision far easier.
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woeisme

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
Absent really good softs or other redeeming factors, I don't think you're likely to get into NU or GULC. Frankly, you're also pretty unlikely to get money from Cornell (many wouldn't even get in with those numbers). I really think your best bet to get some Cornell money would be to leverage BC/WUSTL with a school like UCLA or Texas (if you have an acceptance from one of those) and then try to leverage that with Cornell. I realize you're working against the clock and don't really know all your info.Keepingcalm wrote:
Since it seems to relevant my stats were 167/3.7. And the only other t-14 I'm waiting on are NU and GULC
Anyway, where you choose to attend needn't have anything to do with your stats. I think Cornell at sticker is your best bet, based on your disclosed career goals.
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Hell of an offer from WUSTL with those stats, but given your goals it's a tough call. GULC and NU probably aren't happening.Keepingcalm wrote:Since it seems to relevant my stats were 167/3.7. And the only other t-14 I'm waiting on are NU and GULCwoeisme wrote:Eh, I think MVBPDCN are equally mobile in the aggregate. I agree that a 170/3.8 should get some money from Cornell, though WUSTL has been known to throw full-rides at applicants with less impressive stats (e.g., 168/3.7)2014 wrote: I was more trying to dig for his numbers though because if I'm right and he is at 170/3.8ish then he should be competitive for some sort of merit aid at Cornell which would make the decision far easier.
- Robespierre

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Re: Cornell (sticker) vs. BC ($$) vs WUSTL ($$$)
OP - Are you borrowing the whole cost of attendance minus scholly? No money available from savings or family?