Tulsa v. UNLV Forum

[sandys627]

Currently living in Las Vegas.
Have ties to Tulsa and Oklahoma City, also.
Still waiting on financials from Baylor which would be coming this week, but have no ties to Texas.

UNLV - 5k a year scholly (Tuition expense for 3 years - 54k)
University of Tulsa- 27k a year scholly, 2.7 gpa requirement for the 2nd and 3rd years with school median gpa around 2.7 (Tuition expense for 3 years - 10k)

[imbored25]

Currently living in Las Vegas.
Have ties to Tulsa and Oklahoma City, also.
Still waiting on financials from Baylor which would be coming this week, but have no ties to Texas.

UNLV - 5k a year scholly (Tuition expense for 3 years - 54k)
University of Tulsa- 27k a year scholly, 2.7 gpa requirement for the 2nd and 3rd years with school median gpa around 2.7 (Tuition expense for 3 years - 10k)

did you apply to OU

[sandys627]

Currently living in Las Vegas.
Have ties to Tulsa and Oklahoma City, also.
Still waiting on financials from Baylor which would be coming this week, but have no ties to Texas.

UNLV - 5k a year scholly (Tuition expense for 3 years - 54k)
University of Tulsa- 27k a year scholly, 2.7 gpa requirement for the 2nd and 3rd years with school median gpa around 2.7 (Tuition expense for 3 years - 10k)

did you apply to OU

Yes, was accepted. No $$ though.

[imbored25]

I don't really know anything about Vegas but if your at the top of your class at Tulsa you should have a good chance at landing a decent paying firm job, plus going to law school for 10k is a pretty good deal. Cost of living in Tulsa is pretty low as well. Baylor isn't worth it, especially with no ties to Texas. I'd say go to Tulsa

[CanadianWolf]

This should be a very simple decision: sin city or the home of Oral Roberts University ? Do you want to live in a gambling mecca in the desert or in a conservative, oil & cattle state ?

[sandys627]

I don't really know anything about Vegas but if your at the top of your class at Tulsa you should have a good chance at landing a decent paying firm job, plus going to law school for 10k is a pretty good deal. Cost of living in Tulsa is pretty low as well. Baylor isn't worth it, especially with no ties to Texas. I'd say go to Tulsa

Thank you for the input, I appreciate it. I have heard negative info about Baylor, also. I have never been to Tulsa, but planning a trip next week.

[sandys627]

This should be a very simple decision: sin city or the home of Oral Roberts University ? Do you want to live in a gambling mecca in the desert or in a conservative, oil & cattle state ?

Very funny, but so true! Lol. I like Las Vegas, but it can be a little congested for my taste at times. Never been to Tulsa, but no one has had anything negative to say about it. Thanks for the input!

[Oklahoma2014]

You won't have to worry about traffic in Tulsa unless you get around south Tulsa. Even then, it's probably nothing like Vegas.

I voted Tulsa, but probably just depends on where you want to be.

Enjoy your visit!

[sandys627]

You won't have to worry about traffic in Tulsa unless you get around south Tulsa. Even then, it's probably nothing like Vegas.

I voted Tulsa, but probably just depends on where you want to be.

Enjoy your visit!

I like the sound of no traffic! It takes me 40 mins to get to UNLV from where I currently live. Is the weather decent there, if you know?

[Oklahoma2014]

Weather is descent. A little extreme in the summer but I can't imagine it's worse than Vegas. Winters are somewhat unpredictable, this one was mild but last winter we had blizzard on top of blizzard. Spring and fall are awesome. Fall is by far my favorite but part of that has to do with football. High school and college football are sort of a big deal around Tulsa; short drive to Stillwater, Norman, and Fayetteville. Of course TU also has a D1 team. Though I hear there won't be time for college football in law school, haha.

[rad lulz]

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[Lord Randolph McDuff]

Never been to Tulsa, but no one has had anything negative to say about it.

No way you have "ties" to Tulsa.

UTulsa is a Tulsa and eastern Oklahoma school. Think indians. I am from the area and it is alright. However, Oklahoma isn't exactly a place people move to. If you don't have ties, you are going to get a bunch of weird questions from employers.

Also there are no jobs in Oklahoma that will help you pay off that 70k in debt. OU at 120k is insane, and you are right to write that off. But srsly, that 70k is going to be hard to pay off from UTlulsa. The median grad there is either not really a lawyer or a lawyer that makes like 40k a year. They talk about placement at Mcaffee Taft and Crowe Dunleavy, but that is all bullshit. Those firms take like 1 person each from either TU or OU, and that person is usually connected or is the random genius grinder that stayed in state for school because his GF from undergrad was hot. This isn't you.

Maybe if you worked during the summers/part-time 2L and 3L you can keep that debt down to 40k or so. That becomes so much more manageable. Yeah, try to do that.

[imbored25]

Never been to Tulsa, but no one has had anything negative to say about it.

No way you have "ties" to Tulsa.

UTulsa is a Tulsa and eastern Oklahoma school. Think indians. I am from the area and it is alright. However, Oklahoma isn't exactly a place people move to. If you don't have ties, you are going to get a bunch of weird questions from employers.

Also there are no jobs in Oklahoma that will help you pay off that 70k in debt. OU at 120k is insane, and you are right to write that off. But srsly, that 70k is going to be hard to pay off from UTlulsa. The median grad there is either not really a lawyer or a lawyer that makes like 40k a year. They talk about placement at Mcaffee Taft and Crowe Dunleavy, but that is all bullshit. Those firms take like 1 person each from either TU or OU, and that person is usually connected or is the random genius grinder that stayed in state for school because his GF from undergrad was hot. This isn't you.

Maybe if you worked during the summers/part-time 2L and 3L you can keep that debt down to 40k or so. That becomes so much more manageable. Yeah, try to do that.

think indians? wtf

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

Never been to Tulsa, but no one has had anything negative to say about it.

No way you have "ties" to Tulsa.

UTulsa is a Tulsa and eastern Oklahoma school. Think indians. I am from the area and it is alright. However, Oklahoma isn't exactly a place people move to. If you don't have ties, you are going to get a bunch of weird questions from employers.

Also there are no jobs in Oklahoma that will help you pay off that 70k in debt. OU at 120k is insane, and you are right to write that off. But srsly, that 70k is going to be hard to pay off from UTlulsa. The median grad there is either not really a lawyer or a lawyer that makes like 40k a year. They talk about placement at Mcaffee Taft and Crowe Dunleavy, but that is all bullshit. Those firms take like 1 person each from either TU or OU, and that person is usually connected or is the random genius grinder that stayed in state for school because his GF from undergrad was hot. This isn't you.

Maybe if you worked during the summers/part-time 2L and 3L you can keep that debt down to 40k or so. That becomes so much more manageable. Yeah, try to do that.

think indians? wtf

Not politically correct but that is an undeniable part of the culture of eastern oklahoma. Sorry if I offended you.

[imbored25]

haha no im not offended, we had indians 100 years ago, not anymore. indians have nothing to do with tulsa

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

haha no im not offended, we had indians 100 years ago, not anymore. indians have nothing to do with tulsa

I'm Cherokee bro, we're still around. You ever driven 15 minutes North, South, East or West of Tulsa? Literally reservation land. I know you can't see teepees, but it is reservation land.

[imbored25]

haha no im not offended, we had indians 100 years ago, not anymore. indians have nothing to do with tulsa

I'm Cherokee bro, we're still around. You ever driven 15 minutes North, South, East or West of Tulsa? Literally reservation land. I know you can't see teepees, but it is reservation land.

haha, good to know man. I guess what I was trying to say is that the first thing a person needs to think when moving to Tulsa/E. Oklahoma is probably not Indians but the importance of having ties here. anyways i think we've gotten pretty of topic lol

[Oklahoma2014]

Thats what I was thinking. NA not a large presence around Tulsa but get out a ways and there are many native Americans.

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

haha no im not offended, we had indians 100 years ago, not anymore. indians have nothing to do with tulsa

I'm Cherokee bro, we're still around. You ever driven 15 minutes North, South, East or West of Tulsa? Literally reservation land. I know you can't see teepees, but it is reservation land.

haha, good to know man. I guess what I was trying to say is that the first thing a person needs to think when moving to Tulsa/E. Oklahoma is probably not Indians but the importance of having ties here. anyways i think we've gotten pretty of topic lol

haha agreed man. I'm skeptical of OP's "ties" to Tulsa when he/she is scheduling a first time visit to the city.

I actually like Tulsa. Wish I could recommend TU, too. I know some students there that are really struggling. I think they will eventually be ok because they are realistic and are doing a good job at putting their resources to use, but right now its rough. Of course, they are all from Tulsa, some K-12 then OU/OSU, some all the way through TU undergrad. They have options to get non-legal jobs from their ties that I'm worried OP will not have.

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

Thats what I was thinking. NA not a large presence around Tulsa but get out a ways and there are many native Americans.

We wait on the outskirts of town in hopes of ambushing wagons.

[Oklahoma2014]

Funny stuff Randolph, waiting outside of town.

Describe struggling. You can pm me if we are getting too far off topic here.

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

Funny stuff Randolph, waiting outside of town.

Describe struggling. You can pm me if we are getting too far off topic here.

Struggling like, top half of class with decent personalities and only have part-time relationships with DUI shitlaw firms who have made it clear that they aren't looking to hire another associate. One girl I know is actually pretty cute... I think the cute girl is going to be alright, actually, but all of them will likely graduate this year with only those part-time gigs. They basically get like 15 bucks an hour for every hour they bill clients. In a days work they may only be billing 6 or 7 hours, and that is when they are needed for the whole day.

I think the cute one might be able to score a really shitty clerkship with a local trial judge. Pay is like 37,500 but that is better than what she would get working on a project basis for the DUI shitlaw firm. After her clerkship, with her cutes and decent research/writing skills from all her work experience, I bet she gets picked up by a small/mid law firm. probably will start her out at 50/55k, that seems par for the course over there. (same in OKC, FWIW)

[Oklahoma2014]

Funny stuff Randolph, waiting outside of town.

Describe struggling. You can pm me if we are getting too far off topic here.

Struggling like, top half of class with decent personalities and only have part-time relationships with DUI shitlaw firms who have made it clear that they aren't looking to hire another associate. One girl I know is actually pretty cute... I think the cute girl is going to be alright, actually, but all of them will likely graduate this year with only those part-time gigs. They basically get like 15 bucks an hour for every hour they bill clients. In a days work they may only be billing 6 or 7 hours, and that is when they are needed for the whole day.

I think the cute one might be able to score a really shitty clerkship with a local trial judge. Pay is like 37,500 but that is better than what she would get working on a project basis for the DUI shitlaw firm. After her clerkship, with her cutes and decent research/writing skills from all her work experience, I bet she gets picked up by a small/mid law firm. probably will start her out at 50/55k, that seems par for the course over there. (same in OKC, FWIW)

Thanks for the insight. I am still on the fence between Arkansas and Tulsa but want to end up anywhere in Oklahoma after I finish law school. Doesnt matter where, I have lived all over the state except southeast. My wife and I are hoping for at least 50k but I have previous work experience that would pay 20/hr part time if we come up short. My wife makes great money so we feel we can start out pretty low on pay, her job is very portable too (RN).

[sandys627]

Actually, I have an uncle who is moving to Jenks from OKC, whom I could live with bringing my COA down, should I chose to attend Tulsa. The issue, as I see it, concerns amount of debt v. job prospects. I spent time working for an attorney in Vegas who is extremely influential(30 + years in Vegas law) and now has his own small firm. He constantly offers to help me. However, is UNLV worth 50-60 in tuition debt v. Extremely small debt at Tulsa?

I appreciate the responses

[Oklahoma2014]

Actually, I have an uncle who is moving to Jenks from OKC, whom I could live with bringing my COA down, should I chose to attend Tulsa. The issue, as I see it, concerns amount of debt v. job prospects. I spent time working for an attorney in Vegas who is extremely influential(30 + years in Vegas law) and now has his own small firm. He constantly offers to help me. However, is UNLV worth 50-60 in tuition debt v. Extremely small debt at Tulsa?

I appreciate the responses

I don't know the answer to that but Jenks is a nice place (although they cheat at high school football) and keeping Coa down seems great. Are you okay with remaining in Oklahoma after law school if you can't get some place else? That may matter in your decision process.