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With ASW around the corner for all three of these schools, I thought I'd start a thread for people looking to the West for school... What's your take on Cal vs. UCLA vs. USC? Especially if future employment in SoCal is the main goal. It'd be great if anyone could share research they've done, personal experiences or advice from professionals.
Especially, UCLA and USC seem to be offering generous scholarships. Between the two, what difference can we really expect?
(Of course, Stanford remains the Cali Dream for me but till I hear back its between these three...
Especially, UCLA and USC seem to be offering generous scholarships. Between the two, what difference can we really expect?
(Of course, Stanford remains the Cali Dream for me but till I hear back its between these three...
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I've heard from two attorneys I know personally that students from USC and UCLA are struggling to find jobs. One was referring to a family friend at USC and the other UCLA graduates he was interviewing who had been continually coming up empty handed. I had to choose between USC and UCLA for undergrad, and as far as campus I would say UCLA wins hands down. Not only is the architecture beautiful, its also up in the rolling hills near Bel Air. Grad student night life would also be better at UCLA. I don't know anyone from Boalt but as far as employment prospects I would say it is the clear winner.
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Here are some stats for the class of 2010 9 months after graduation, removing those that are unemployed/not seeking, unknown (tiny amount), as well as those pursuing other grad degrees:
Cal: FT employed ALL: 92.4% / Unemp-seeking: 3.8% / Clerkships: 9% / Firm job 51+ attorneys: 53.8%
UCLA: FT employed ALL: 79.6% / Unemp-seeking: 1.8% / Clerkships: 8.2% / Firm job 51+ attorneys: 41.2%
USC: FT employed ALL: ???% / Unemp-seeking: 1.7% / Clerkships: 5.5% / Firm job 51+ attorneys: 38.1%
I don't know what the FT bar-passage-required placement is like for UCLA or USC, but at Cal it's 89.9% (better than UCLA's overall full time placement).
Cal: FT employed ALL: 92.4% / Unemp-seeking: 3.8% / Clerkships: 9% / Firm job 51+ attorneys: 53.8%
UCLA: FT employed ALL: 79.6% / Unemp-seeking: 1.8% / Clerkships: 8.2% / Firm job 51+ attorneys: 41.2%
USC: FT employed ALL: ???% / Unemp-seeking: 1.7% / Clerkships: 5.5% / Firm job 51+ attorneys: 38.1%
I don't know what the FT bar-passage-required placement is like for UCLA or USC, but at Cal it's 89.9% (better than UCLA's overall full time placement).
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I'm guessing by Cal, you meant Cal Berkeley? Or Cal Irvine? Either way, I would go with UCLA/USC if you want socal, since they are in that region and have strong alumni networks there.ethicallawyer wrote:With ASW around the corner for all three of these schools, I thought I'd start a thread for people looking to the West for school... What's your take on Cal vs. UCLA vs. USC? Especially if future employment in SoCal is the main goal. It'd be great if anyone could share research they've done, personal experiences or advice from professionals.
Especially, UCLA and USC seem to be offering generous scholarships. Between the two, what difference can we really expect?
(Of course, Stanford remains the Cali Dream for me but till I hear back its between these three...
Between the two, I would go with UCLA because of its UC branding.
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Does UC branding really hold that much clout? I got the impression that the Trojan brand holds far more clout, especially in So Cal... Anyone have any knowledge on UCLA's reputation, alumni networking and job placement in comparison to USC?
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ethicallawyer wrote:Anyone have any knowledge on UCLA's reputation, alumni networking and job placement in comparison to USC?

splitbrain wrote:Here are some stats for the class of 2010 9 months after graduation, removing those that are unemployed/not seeking, unknown (tiny amount), as well as those pursuing other grad degrees:
UCLA: FT employed ALL: 79.6% / Unemp-seeking: 1.8% / Clerkships: 8.2% / Firm job 51+ attorneys: 41.2%
USC: FT employed ALL: ???% / Unemp-seeking: 1.7% / Clerkships: 5.5% / Firm job 51+ attorneys: 38.1%
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Cal for anywhere in CA, even SoCal. I'd only take UCLA/USC over Cal if the former were substantially cheaper than the latter.
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Was anyone as disappointed by UCLA's admit day as I was? Cal put UCLA to shame for me this past weekend... can't wait for USC on Friday! I hope Cal offers some money though...
Any decisions from others?
Any decisions from others?
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I went to an earlier UCLA Admit Day and, yes, was a little disappointed. Did not RSVP for the USC one, but I already feel that USC is the better option for me. Class size is smaller and more intimate, which is a plus for me. Also, USC offered me more money, and I'm hoping to tap into the Trojan network if I decide to go there.ethicallawyer wrote:Was anyone as disappointed by UCLA's admit day as I was? Cal put UCLA to shame for me this past weekend... can't wait for USC on Friday! I hope Cal offers some money though...
Any decisions from others?
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What the hell is "Cal Irvine"? The only major university known by "Cal" is UC Berkeley. Oh and there is a "UC Irvine" too which also has 'UC branding'.apollo2015 wrote:I'm guessing by Cal, you meant Cal Berkeley? Or Cal Irvine? Either way, I would go with UCLA/USC if you want socal, since they are in that region and have strong alumni networks there.ethicallawyer wrote:With ASW around the corner for all three of these schools, I thought I'd start a thread for people looking to the West for school... What's your take on Cal vs. UCLA vs. USC? Especially if future employment in SoCal is the main goal. It'd be great if anyone could share research they've done, personal experiences or advice from professionals.
Especially, UCLA and USC seem to be offering generous scholarships. Between the two, what difference can we really expect?
(Of course, Stanford remains the Cali Dream for me but till I hear back its between these three...
Between the two, I would go with UCLA because of its UC branding.
Cal's rep trumps that of USC and UCLA easily. Schollie money is the make or break criteria; otherwise Cal is probably the right choice. All three schools are very well represented in SoCal.
Heh. UC branding itself might not mean a whole lot, but UC Berkeley's and UCLA's sure does. They are both more highly regarded than USC... which has (unfairly) the reputation of being a dumping ground for dumb but rich kids. The disparity is even more apparent the further you travel from LA/OC. USC is probably one of the fastest rising schools in the nation, but it will take some time for the reputation to catch up.ethicallawyer wrote:Does UC branding really hold that much clout? I got the impression that the Trojan brand holds far more clout, especially in So Cal... Anyone have any knowledge on UCLA's reputation, alumni networking and job placement in comparison to USC?
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Berkeley is the Stanford of California.
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USC and UCLA are peer law schools. Your post consists entirely of stereotypes and other nonsence. Everything you said in the above quote is objectively retarded.SupCutie wrote:Heh. UC branding itself might not mean a whole lot, but UC Berkeley's and UCLA's sure does. They are both more highly regarded than USC... which has (unfairly) the reputation of being a dumping ground for dumb but rich kids. The disparity is even more apparent the further you travel from LA/OC. USC is probably one of the fastest rising schools in the nation, but it will take some time for the reputation to catch up.
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Isn't Stanford the Stanford of California?lonerider wrote:Berkeley is the Stanford of California.
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Boalt is the Stanford of the East Bay!shoeshine wrote:Isn't Stanford the Stanford of California?lonerider wrote:Berkeley is the Stanford of California.
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That makes more sense.Bronck wrote:Boalt is the Stanford of the East Bay!shoeshine wrote:Isn't Stanford the Stanford of California?lonerider wrote:Berkeley is the Stanford of California.
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Cal = Berkeley, alwaysapollo2015 wrote: I'm guessing by Cal, you meant Cal Berkeley? Or Cal Irvine? Either way, I would go with UCLA/USC if you want socal, since they are in that region and have strong alumni networks there.
Between the two, I would go with UCLA because of its UC branding.
WTF does UC branding have to do with legal hiring?
Why are the dumbest people commenting in this thread?
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UVA is the Duke of Virginia.chimp wrote:NYU is the Columbia of the village!
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...Streeterville?thelawyler wrote:Northwestern is the Chicago of...
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