T14...Layman Style (useless ranking ITT) Forum

[Transferthrowaway]

Chicago is too high. People think Notre Dame is more impressive.

[ahnhub]

Here's the lay list among Asian parents.

Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Columbia (switch with Stanford if on east coast)
UPenn
Cornell
NYU
Berkeley (switch with NYU if on west coast)
Michigan
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Georgetown
Virginia

None of my parents' Asian friends know what NYU is. My friend's parents told him they thought his girlfriend was too smart for him, because she went to Cornell and he went to Duke, and he got pissed off and told them it was harder to get into Duke. Nobody believed him.

[pupperoni]

lol that is hilarious

[goldenboy8784]

Duke is very well known among Asian, especially Chinese, families. The undergraduate student body is like 20% Asian and it has a top 5 medical school (which Asians care a lot about admittedly).

Here's how people in D.C. would rank them:

1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Georgetown
4. Columbia
5. Stanford
6. Duke
7. Notre Dame
8. UVA
9. Northwestern
10. Vanderbilt

[pifhib2]

1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Princeton
4. Stanford
3. Alabama
4. Duke
5. California
6. Samford
7. Georgia
8. Tennessee
9. Florida
10. FSU

[Entchen]

More than one person told me I was crazy for turning down Georgetown for Michigan.

[r6_philly]

Duke is very well known among Asian, especially Chinese, families. The undergraduate student body is like 20% Asian and it has a top 5 medical school (which Asians care a lot about admittedly).

Any Ivy > Duke for Asians.

[Taus11]

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[062914123]

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[moneybagsphd]

More than one person told me I was crazy for turning down Georgetown for Michigan.

If some lay person presumed to give me law school advice, I would not respond politely.

[Nobody]

Everyone thinks you're crazy for turning down Georgetown. Even Cornell, a lot of people think of as the safety Ivy in general, but Georgetown undergrad is so highly regarded that pretty much anyone who isn't actively applying to jobs right now or does hiring for biglaw thinks of it as amazing.

[moneybagsphd]

Duke is very well known among Asian, especially Chinese, families. The undergraduate student body is like 20% Asian and it has a top 5 medical school (which Asians care a lot about admittedly).

Any Ivy > Duke for Asians.

No, Asians know Duke better than the ones like Dartmouth or Brown. (Obviously talking about undergrad, here)

PRINCETON LAW SCHOOL #1!!!

I beg to differ... in LA, at least, it's all the Ivies + Stanford > Berkeley > UCLA > Duke (if they've even heard of it).

I dunno why.

Admittedly, Asian parents' perception of prestige is highly relevant to this thread, as it's based almost solely on name recognition.

[moneybagsphd]

Everyone thinks you're crazy for turning down Georgetown. Even Cornell, a lot of people think of as the safety Ivy in general, but Georgetown undergrad is so highly regarded that pretty much anyone who isn't actively applying to jobs right now or does hiring for biglaw thinks of it as amazing.

LAWL

[Nobody]

Everyone thinks you're crazy for turning down Georgetown. Even Cornell, a lot of people think of as the safety Ivy in general, but Georgetown undergrad is so highly regarded that pretty much anyone who isn't actively applying to jobs right now or does hiring for biglaw thinks of it as amazing.

LAWL

Not sure what the LAWL was referring to, but just to clarify I just meant that everyone whose not really into this thinks that. If you tell people you're choosing between Michigan and Penn, they usually look totally bemused as to why you're going to two publics that are so far away, but as soon as you bring up Georgetown they leap all over it.

[whitman]

Everyone thinks you're crazy for turning down Georgetown. Even Cornell, a lot of people think of as the safety Ivy in general, but Georgetown undergrad is so highly regarded that pretty much anyone who isn't actively applying to jobs right now or does hiring for biglaw thinks of it as amazing.

LAWL

Not sure what the LAWL was referring to, but just to clarify I just meant that everyone whose not really into this thinks that. If you tell people you're choosing between Michigan and Penn, they usually look totally bemused as to why you're going to two publics that are so far away, but as soon as you bring up Georgetown they leap all over it.

But Georgetown undergrad isn't even that good. It's like Vanderbilt or UVA or UNC level, not even on Duke's level.

[Nobody]

Fair enough. It is on TV a lot though.

[PrincetonBound]

As a Midwesterner, Chicago/Michigan >> NYU/Columbia

[yngblkgifted]

Everyone thinks you're crazy for turning down Georgetown. Even Cornell, a lot of people think of as the safety Ivy in general, but Georgetown undergrad is so highly regarded that pretty much anyone who isn't actively applying to jobs right now or does hiring for biglaw thinks of it as amazing.

LAWL

Not sure what the LAWL was referring to, but just to clarify I just meant that everyone whose not really into this thinks that. If you tell people you're choosing between Michigan and Penn, they usually look totally bemused as to why you're going to two publics that are so far away, but as soon as you bring up Georgetown they leap all over it.

But Georgetown undergrad isn't even that good. It's like Vanderbilt or UVA or UNC level, not even on Duke's level.

Because that's not even that good. Fucking elitist....

[bernaldiaz]

Everyone thinks you're crazy for turning down Georgetown. Even Cornell, a lot of people think of as the safety Ivy in general, but Georgetown undergrad is so highly regarded that pretty much anyone who isn't actively applying to jobs right now or does hiring for biglaw thinks of it as amazing.

LAWL

Not sure what the LAWL was referring to, but just to clarify I just meant that everyone whose not really into this thinks that. If you tell people you're choosing between Michigan and Penn, they usually look totally bemused as to why you're going to two publics that are so far away, but as soon as you bring up Georgetown they leap all over it.

But Georgetown undergrad isn't even that good. It's like Vanderbilt or UVA or UNC level, not even on Duke's level.

Yeah agreed. Georgetown law is looked at way better than can even be justified by its undergrad. ND is a better undergrad than Georgetown but the law school doesn't have nearly the type of lay prestige. I think Georgetown is just overrated because of its privileged position as the best school in DC

[Nobody]

Plus there's really less of a strict hierarchy of undergrads than there is law schools. There's a little more room to go with vibe or preference. Barring money, when you hear someone goes to Georgetown law, you think "Oh, that is the best law school they got into," whereas for undergrad, you think "Oh, this person really likes DC."

[whitman]

Everyone thinks you're crazy for turning down Georgetown. Even Cornell, a lot of people think of as the safety Ivy in general, but Georgetown undergrad is so highly regarded that pretty much anyone who isn't actively applying to jobs right now or does hiring for biglaw thinks of it as amazing.

LAWL

But Georgetown undergrad isn't even that good. It's like Vanderbilt or UVA or UNC level, not even on Duke's level.

Because that's not even that good. Fucking elitist....

Haha, sorry. Those are all as good or better than the undergrad I attended. I just meant it's not as good as the Harvardesque lay prestige would suggest. Those other schools I mentioned - Vanderbilt, UVA, UNC, etc - don't have that lay prestige for their law school, so I'm just puzzled about Georgetown's. But who cares anyways, right? Not sure why I'm posting on this.

[005618502]

Duke is very well known among Asian, especially Chinese, families. The undergraduate student body is like 20% Asian and it has a top 5 medical school (which Asians care a lot about admittedly).

Here's how people in D.C. would rank them:

1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Georgetown
4. Columbia
5. Stanford
6. Duke
7. Notre Dame
8. UVA
9. Northwestern
10. Vanderbilt

Made me wonder, thought DC would put UVA and Vandy higher than ND and Duke.

[bernaldiaz]

Duke is very well known among Asian, especially Chinese, families. The undergraduate student body is like 20% Asian and it has a top 5 medical school (which Asians care a lot about admittedly).

Here's how people in D.C. would rank them:

1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Georgetown
4. Columbia
5. Stanford
6. Duke
7. Notre Dame
8. UVA
9. Northwestern
10. Vanderbilt

Made me wonder, thought DC would put UVA and Vandy higher than ND and Duke.

Well I mean obviously this person can't speak for all of DC. Basically what we are learning in this thread is that UG prestige is what drives how people perceive the law school. Schools with great undergrad like ND and G'Town are probably going to get too much love, schools that are a little lesser known like UVa and Chicago won't do as well. And also a school like NYU that just has mediocre undergrad will also not do as well.