Cornell vs. Yale? Forum

[CanadianWolf]

Even a passing familiarity with Canadian law schools should clearly direct one to Toronto at full tuition over Ottawa on scholarship.

[Gail]

You will regret not attending Yale. You will really really really really regret it.


Harvard and Yale are the schools for the movers and shakers of the future. Everything else is just a wealthy life at best, but a far cry from HY.

Yeah, you know that school sTTTanford?

Stanford isn't Harvard or Yale. I'd love to go there - if I were intelligent, I would - but it isn't Harvard or Yale.

[Veyron]

You will regret not attending Yale. You will really really really really regret it.


Harvard and Yale are the schools for the movers and shakers of the future. Everything else is just a wealthy life at best, but a far cry from HY.

Yeah, you know that school sTTTanford?

Stanford isn't Harvard or Yale. I'd love to go there - if I were intelligent, I would - but it isn't Harvard or Yale.

(east coast)

Tell that to silicon valley.

[WSJ_Law]

120 flame

[johansantana21]

You will regret not attending Yale. You will really really really really regret it.


Harvard and Yale are the schools for the movers and shakers of the future. Everything else is just a wealthy life at best, but a far cry from HY.

Yeah, you know that school sTTTanford?

Stanford isn't Harvard or Yale. I'd love to go there - if I were intelligent, I would - but it isn't Harvard or Yale.

(east coast)

Tell that to silicon valley.

+1.

[BiglawOrBust]

120 flame

The turd who compared Toronto to Yale, or the turd who seemed to put Stanford in a class inferior to Harvard and Yale?

I'd say both.

[buns]

Hey, I haven't been in the same situation but I do attend Toronto and although I'm biased my 2 cents is that you should choose U of T. The pricetag is steep but what often goes overlooked is the school's amazing financial aid program. My adjusted tuition based on my parents' annual household income (between 70-100k) is only ~14k. With tax that's a 10k discount. Over on ls.ca I once read anecdotally that the average household income of students who were rejected financial aid was something outrageous like 210k. There's also OSAP, where I got a 2k bursary so as far as tuition is concerned I'm paying around ~12k a year.

If you're in a situation where your folks are quite wealthy but insist you pay for everything yourself, then I guess you'll get jammed up by the system since U of T law's financial aid requires they disclose their earnings. The law school will also pay the interest on a line of credit with a bank for you if needed, and they have a solid LRAP program that will forgive debt and keep your payments low if you decide to take a less lucrative job in the public sector for example. Obviously cost of living is a factor since at Ottawa you'd have that covered. In sum I just wanted to let you know the costs here are manageable. I showed up here with undergraduate debt too and haven't regretted the decision one bit.

I would also caution against assuming it's easier to pulldown top grades at Ottawa because of their entrance requirements. Law school grades are pretty crazy and arbitrary at times, and conventional wisdom is to never assume you'll be top X% in your 1L class. What I do know is that the job prospects of a median student at Toronto far exceed the job prospects of a median student at Ottawa.

Finally, as Noval said, if you want private practice in Toronto it's a no-brainer. I know there's some self-selection involved but the bottom line is Ottawa only placed 36 people on Bay St through OCIs this fall. Also, I had law school choices too when I was in your shoes (not a full ride scholly though!), but I worried that I would wonder "what if" if I didn't choose U of T. I came here and don't regret it one bit. I'm in debt but it is looking manageable and I haven't been stressing about it at all.

Overall, both schools are great and I wish you the best of luck regardless of your decision.

[thexfactor]

holy shit... i didn't realize how low the costs are of going to law school in canada as compared to the US.
I also didn't realize how good canadian law students have it when it comes to jobs as compared to our US counterparts....

[buns]

holy shit... i didn't realize how low the costs are of going to law school in canada as compared to the US.
I also didn't realize how good canadian law students have it when it comes to jobs as compared to our US counterparts....

Regulation! There's 16 law schools here total, 6 (soon to be 7) in Ontario. As mentioned earlier, Toronto's entrance stats aren't Yale-high but with the small number of seats available in law programs nationwide, the admissions standards at even the least selective programs are very high.

[impulse999]

Have U of T even started admiting people????? I only got a letter a couple days back saying that they received my application

[buns]

Have U of T even started admiting people????? I only got a letter a couple days back saying that they received my application

Looks like they started admitting people on Monday... http://lawstudents.ca/forums/topic/26820-accepted-2012/

You're better off searching for Canadian admissions stuff on ls.ca