Where should I go to make the most $ ? 3.4, 170 Forum

[CPG2011]

I am a senior at temple and have a 3.4 and got 170 on the LSATS. I'd like to stay in Philly and am applying to Temple in a few months, but wanted to know if anyone had other suggestions. I don't mind relocating although I'm not sure if it will matter because I have pretty average stats. I can take the LSAT again in October and could see myself improving if only by a point or two. Is it worth taking again?

As far as the money part, I am interested in personal injury or any kind of law where I can eventually choose how much I want to make by deciding how hard/how much I want to work. I like the idea of not having a set salary, and although it's a gamble, I think it would motivate me. Basically I am asking what type of law is best to make the most money when I graduate and where I should apply with my stats. Can I even get into a top 20 school with a 3.4?

Thanks.

[TheFactor]

Please don't go to Temple with those numbers. And yes, you should be able to snag something in the T20. If you don't mind paying sticker, you have a great shot at several T14s if you ED.

[duckmoney]

You should be aiming higher than Temple if you have a 170. If your goal is to make money regardless of potential debt, then your best bet would probably be to ED to UVA, and if that fails (probably will, but you'll hear back within 2 weeks), then ED to GULC. If you want scholarship, apply to a splitter-friendly school like WUSTL, IUB, or UIUC.

When you graduate, expect to work in salaried firm job for at least few years. Once you build up a client base, then you can try to go solo and work on your own time.

[NYC Law]

I am a senior at temple and have a 3.4 and got 170 on the LSATS. I'd like to stay in Philly and am applying to Temple in a few months, but wanted to know if anyone had other suggestions. I don't mind relocating although I'm not sure if it will matter because I have pretty average stats. I can take the LSAT again in October and could see myself improving if only by a point or two. Is it worth taking again?

As far as the money part, I am interested in personal injury or any kind of law where I can eventually choose how much I want to make by deciding how hard/how much I want to work. I like the idea of not having a set salary, and although it's a gamble, I think it would motivate me. Basically I am asking what type of law is best to make the most money when I graduate and where I should apply with my stats. Can I even get into a top 20 school with a 3.4?

Thanks.

lol.

Read through TLS, do research on the legal field, then repost this question.

[paulinaporizkova]

uh, penn?

[The Gentleman]

If you want to stay in Philly then apply early decision to UPenn.

[TheFutureLawyer]

If you want scholarship, apply to a splitter-friendly school like WUSTL, IUB, or UIUC.

And GW, in my experience with similar numbers.

[protein]

Definitely get your apps in early, i second the idea of ED'ing to upenn if you want to stay in philly

[blsingindisguise]

If by "choose" how much and how hard you want to work, you mean have the option of a nice lifestyle, this is hard to achieve in law unless you do something like wills and trusts. Litigation of any kind, including personal injury, is extremely client-driven, meaning you have to work as hard as the cases demand. If you mean "the harder I work, the more I make" sense, that attitude will benefit you in any kind of law.

[CPG2011]

Thanks for all the input. I don't really have extra curriculars and since my GPA is average I was unsure what my options are. Feeling good about the T20 potential. Did not know it was a possibility on LSATS alone. I'm pretty new to the process.

[CPG2011]

I am a senior at temple and have a 3.4 and got 170 on the LSATS. I'd like to stay in Philly and am applying to Temple in a few months, but wanted to know if anyone had other suggestions. I don't mind relocating although I'm not sure if it will matter because I have pretty average stats. I can take the LSAT again in October and could see myself improving if only by a point or two. Is it worth taking again?

As far as the money part, I am interested in personal injury or any kind of law where I can eventually choose how much I want to make by deciding how hard/how much I want to work. I like the idea of not having a set salary, and although it's a gamble, I think it would motivate me. Basically I am asking what type of law is best to make the most money when I graduate and where I should apply with my stats. Can I even get into a top 20 school with a 3.4?

Thanks.

lol.

Read through TLS, do research on the legal field, then repost this question.

You, are an ass.

[Law Sauce]

You will get decent scholarships to schools like wustl and illinois and nearly a full ride (120k) at indiana if you apply. But none of these options are great for you unless you would not mind ending up in the midwest because most of these schools are somewhat regional. If you want to stay in philly ED to Penn is a no brainer and I would say that if you really work on those essays (yes write 2 of them at least) and have a great application you have a decent shot at penn. If I was you that would be my reach/goal, the rest of the lower t14 would get reach apps (cornell may be your best shot here), vandy and if you like texas are like your targets (as in not really that reachy or that backupy) and gw, wustl, bc, bu, fordham would be my backups along with a personal favorite backup like maybe temple to see if they give you a full ride (which I kind of doubt but its worth a shot). Also look for patterns on lsn.

Also, Id think about going to the best school possible before what area of law you want to practice unless you know or are already leaning towards something specific. You need to think about biglaw vs. pi vs govt more than specific practice areas while you are choosing a school.

[CPG2011]

Is one or two points the difference between getting into a school like Penn? I know someone at Temple now who was wait listed at Penn with a 3.93 and 167. This person was also wait listed at Fordham at GWU, so that's what I was more or less basing my chances on. I take it the GPA doesn't necessarily balance out the LSAT?

[CanadianWolf]

lawschoolnumbers.com may be helpful to you.

Many law schools are likely to offer you scholarship money covering most--or all--tuition & fees if you are willing to attend a solid, but not elite, law school.For possible scholarship money consider applying to:

Indiana-Bloomington
Iowa
Florida State
Alabama
Wake Forest
Emory
Illinois
WashUStL
Vanderbilt is also worth an application, but not a certainty.
Boston University
Minnesota
Temple
GWU is worth an ED application since it awards a lot of full tuition scholarships.

For elite law schools without the liklihood of merit money, consider applying to:

Penn-ED
Virginia-ED
Vanderbilt

There are many other law schools to consider, but those ranked among the Top 6 are unlikely to admit you. Nonetheless, for better info. check out lawschoolnumbers.com

P.S. One's LSAT score is the most important law school application factor. Many law schools buy high (above that law school's median LSAT score for matriculated students) LSAT scores barring unusual circumstances such as a criminal conviction or repeated drinking/drug issues.

[TheFactor]

Is one or two points the difference between getting into a school like Penn? I know someone at Temple now who was wait listed at Penn with a 3.93 and 167. This person was also wait listed at Fordham at GWU, so that's what I was more or less basing my chances on. I take it the GPA doesn't necessarily balance out the LSAT?

Your friend must have had either (1) an egregious error on his/her applications or (2) some type of criminal record. 167/3.93 should be a lock for lots of $$$ at GW and Fordham.

[8ballistic]

Is one or two points the difference between getting into a school like Penn? I know someone at Temple now who was wait listed at Penn with a 3.93 and 167. This person was also wait listed at Fordham at GWU, so that's what I was more or less basing my chances on. I take it the GPA doesn't necessarily balance out the LSAT?

Your friend must have had either (1) an egregious error on his/her applications or (2) some type of criminal record. 167/3.93 should be a lock for lots of $$$ at GW and Fordham.

Or yield protect.

[blink]

Thanks for all the input. I don't really have extra curriculars and since my GPA is average I was unsure what my options are. Feeling good about the T20 potential. Did not know it was a possibility on LSATS alone. I'm pretty new to the process.

Listen, Elle Woods, its the LSAT not the LSATS. You are making half the people on here twitch when you say that. Get it right.

[CPG2011]

Thanks for all the input. I don't really have extra curriculars and since my GPA is average I was unsure what my options are. Feeling good about the T20 potential. Did not know it was a possibility on LSATS alone. I'm pretty new to the process.

Listen, Elle Woods, its the LSAT not the LSATS. You are making half the people on here twitch when you say that. Get it right.

I don't care wtf the test is called, I got 170 on it. And according to people on here and everyone I've talked to that's a damn good score.

And Elle Woods is most likely a million times more attractive than you.

[sonervous88]

ED to Penn, EA to Cornell

[Paraflam]

Thanks for all the input. I don't really have extra curriculars and since my GPA is average I was unsure what my options are. Feeling good about the T20 potential. Did not know it was a possibility on LSATS alone. I'm pretty new to the process.

Listen, Elle Woods, its the LSAT not the LSATS. You are making half the people on here twitch when you say that. Get it right.

I don't care wtf the test is called, I got 170 on it. And according to people on here and everyone I've talked to that's a damn good score.

And Elle Woods is most likely a million times more attractive than you.

LOL @ unnecessarily defensive post (and blatant logical fallacy)

[ArtVandalay]

ED to Penn, EA to Cornell

I've heard that EA to Cornell doesn't really do/help anything?

[NYC Law]

ED to Penn, EA to Cornell

I've heard that EA to Cornell doesn't really do/help anything?

If anything it hurts since you might get deferred and not receive a decision until March/April, after all the Regular Decision applicants.
EA should only be used if you clearly will get in and are just impatient.

[Slevin Kelevra 2011]

Don't go to Temple.

Apply to schools in the T5-T14, and add the big coastal schools (USC, UCLA, BC, Bu, Fordham, GW). These schools place into the highest paying law firms in the country (big coastal firms).

[blink]

Thanks for all the input. I don't really have extra curriculars and since my GPA is average I was unsure what my options are. Feeling good about the T20 potential. Did not know it was a possibility on LSATS alone. I'm pretty new to the process.

Listen, Elle Woods, its the LSAT not the LSATS. You are making half the people on here twitch when you say that. Get it right.

I don't care wtf the test is called, I got 170 on it. And according to people on here and everyone I've talked to that's a damn good score.

And Elle Woods is most likely a million times more attractive than you.