Cornell or USC Forum

PAR12 · Post by **PAR12** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:14 pm

I am from LA and went to undergrad in SD. I ultimately would like to obtain a 100k job in Denver and eventually become a judge.

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PAR12 · Post by **PAR12** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:16 pm

Also, how do they compare in placement power in Colorado?

BeachandRun23 · Post by **BeachandRun23** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:22 pm

PAR12 wrote:Also, how do they compare in placement power in Colorado?

I have no idea, but when in doubt i'd go with the higher ranked school.

If the colorado thing doesnt work out, would you rather work in cali or NY?

beachbum · Post by **beachbum** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:24 pm

Do you have strong connections to Denver?

PAR12 · Post by **PAR12** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:27 pm

As of now I have no connections in Denver but I have wanted to move there for years now.

If Colorado doesnt work out I would rather be in LA but I would want the best chance to succeed in Denver.

beachbum · Post by **beachbum** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:30 pm

Did you apply to CU? I doubt either of these schools will get you to Denver without any connections.

PAR12 · Post by **PAR12** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:32 pm

I did apply to CU and was actually waitlisted which was unexpected.

But you dont think either of these schools will be able to crack the CO market? They are both ranked much higher than CU.

Teoeo · Post by **Teoeo** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:36 pm

Cornell, not even close...

PAR12 · Post by **PAR12** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:01 pm

Should I consider CU over these schools?

bk1 · Post by **bk1** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:08 pm

I believe Cornell will have better pull in Denver.

To be honest, I would be ready to have either CA or NYC as your backup considering there is probably a very large chance that you aren't able to find something in Denver (especially in the salary range that you are looking for).

bk1 · Post by **bk1** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:09 pm

PAR12 wrote:Should I consider CU over these schools?

If you know for a fact you want Denver then yes because it is going to be hard to get Denver without ties when you are coming from USC or Cornell.

KMaine · Post by **KMaine** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:18 pm

I think it would not be too late to establish connections to Denver even if you went to the other schools. Contact the recruitment person at each of the large Denver firms and ask their advice on where you should go to school (they will likely keep records of all this), then work really hard to get a 1L job in Denver. Have a good story to tell if and when you get interviews.

Would CU be better . . . tough to say? You would probably have to be up at the top of class if you wanted to go to one of the top firms, otherwise you will be fighting for low paying jobs. In that way you may be better off with one of the other schools, in that your location may not be ideal but you are more likely to get a high paying job (more likely from Cornell than USC).

PAR12 · Post by **PAR12** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:36 pm

Thank you all for your insight.

If got off the waitlist at UCLA, how much less pull would that have then Cornell in Denver?

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:41 pm

Are you planning on paying full price for either?

BlueDiamond · Post by **BlueDiamond** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:41 pm

go to USC i want Cornell to accept me.. unless youre a high lsat low gpa splitter.. then attend so they can use my slightly higher gpa and low lsat

Redsgomarchingon · Post by **Redsgomarchingon** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:06 pm

if you're paying sticker at both, you should go to Cornell, since it's higher ranked, and would likely outdo (assuming equal positions in class) a USC degree in just about any state except CA

Horchata · Post by **Horchata** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:57 am

Damn, I'm in the exact same position as you (I made a thread, too). However, I want to come back to CA so that makes things a bit tougher for me. For you, I'd say Cornell if you want to go out of CA. You going out to ASD on April 8 at Cornell or March 28 ASD at USC, by chance?

jay115 · Post by **jay115** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:11 am

Horchata wrote:Damn, I'm in the exact same position as you (I made a thread, too). However, I want to come back to CA so that makes things a bit tougher for me. For you, I'd say Cornell if you want to go out of CA. You going out to ASD on April 8 at Cornell or March 28 ASD at USC, by chance?

Not even close. http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNL ... OLS_REPORT

USC's biglaw employment stats took a massive shit. This, and talking with people I know who go there = Cornell FTW.

FiveSermon · Post by **FiveSermon** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:25 am

Apparently there's a lot of people who want to encourage bad choices. If both at sticker it's Cornell by a mile.

Kretzy · Post by **Kretzy** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:45 am

Definitely Cornell, but Denver is a very tough market to break into without ties. Hell, I'm from there and left for Stanford, and still got the "So, you're not going to ditch us for the big city" question 3-4 times during callbacks this winter.

Is there any way you can work an internship there during this coming summer?

Slevin Kelevra 2011 · Post by **Slevin Kelevra 2011** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:24 am

Kretzy wrote:Definitely Cornell, but Denver is a very tough market to break into without ties. Hell, I'm from there and left for Stanford, and still got the "So, you're not going to ditch us for the big city" question 3-4 times during callbacks this winter.

Is there any way you can work an internship there during this coming summer?

I was under the impression Denver was a big city. Do they have a chip on their shoulder there?

Kretzy · Post by **Kretzy** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:17 pm

Slevin Kelevra 2011 wrote:
Kretzy wrote:Definitely Cornell, but Denver is a very tough market to break into without ties. Hell, I'm from there and left for Stanford, and still got the "So, you're not going to ditch us for the big city" question 3-4 times during callbacks this winter.

Is there any way you can work an internship there during this coming summer?
I was under the impression Denver was a big city. Do they have a chip on their shoulder there?

No chip on their shoulder. Firms there know Denver is a desirable place to live, and thus have the luxury of being selective with who they pick. They want people who are going to stay in the market, for the most part. Every interview I had asked very specific "Why Denver" questions, and a few even asked me things about politics/happenings in the community to gauge my knowledge of the area. These were more rare, but happened.

It's the same with Seattle, or Portland, or Atlanta, or Charlotte, or other mid-size markets. It's hard to just say "I'm going to go work in X after I graduate" if you don't have ties.

polevaulter · Post by **polevaulter** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:52 pm

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