This will assuredly put them in the top 50 schools for NLJ250 stats. Biglaw employers will finally wise up.cowgirl_bebop wrote:SJU FTLfakemoney wrote:Damn, St. John's took a beating
On another note, good to see IUB go up into the top 25.
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But won't they drop off once you graduate?SBL wrote:Given that between my 0L year and now the school has gone from 44 to 23, I think it's safe to say we're seeing a "SBL Effect." To everyone who might benefit from UC Davis's new ranking in the future, I'd just like to humbly say "You're welcome."General Tso wrote:it's all you dood. USNWR is a big fan.SBL wrote:[img]http[/img]
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They'll already have done OCI, so it doesn't matter.romothesavior wrote:But won't they drop off once you graduate?SBL wrote:Given that between my 0L year and now the school has gone from 44 to 23, I think it's safe to say we're seeing a "SBL Effect." To everyone who might benefit from UC Davis's new ranking in the future, I'd just like to humbly say "You're welcome."General Tso wrote:it's all you dood. USNWR is a big fan.SBL wrote:[img]http[/img]
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Hastings is more highly regarded than USC and UCD, but our employment rates are lagging 10%+ behind..hmmmBumi wrote:I found the reputation scores interesting:
4.8 H
4.7 YS
4.6 CCV
4.5 MP
4.4 NBD
4.3 NCGT
4.1 Vandy
4.0 Carolina
3.9 UCLA, WUSTL, Minn, Emory, W&L
3.8 GW, W&M, Iowa, Hastings
3.7 BU, UIUC, ND, BC, UW, UW-M
3.6 USC, IUB, UCD, Wake
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Is this the academic peer score or judges and lawyers reputation score?Bumi wrote:I found the reputation scores interesting:
4.8 H
4.7 YS
4.6 CCV
4.5 MP
4.4 NBD
4.3 NCGT
4.1 Vandy
4.0 Carolina
3.9 UCLA, WUSTL, Minn, Emory, W&L
3.8 GW, W&M, Iowa, Hastings
3.7 BU, UIUC, ND, BC, UW, UW-M
3.6 USC, IUB, UCD, Wake
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I have left traces of my DNA all over the school to prevent this from happening. You're welcome.romothesavior wrote:But won't they drop off once you graduate?SBL wrote:Given that between my 0L year and now the school has gone from 44 to 23, I think it's safe to say we're seeing a "SBL Effect." To everyone who might benefit from UC Davis's new ranking in the future, I'd just like to humbly say "You're welcome."General Tso wrote:it's all you dood. USNWR is a big fan.SBL wrote:[img]http[/img]
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BC went up one...it really should push hard to get into the T25...maybe finally tie or get past BU
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How does IUB stay so high in the rankings?Bumi wrote:I found the reputation scores interesting:
4.8 H
4.7 YS
4.6 CCV
4.5 MP
4.4 NBD
4.3 NCGT
4.1 Vandy
4.0 Carolina
3.9 UCLA, WUSTL, Minn, Emory, W&L
3.8 GW, W&M, Iowa, Hastings
3.7 BU, UIUC, ND, BC, UW, UW-M
3.6 USC, IUB, UCD, Wake
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LOL, "trending":
"Percent employed in all judicial clerkships"
Notre Dame: 15.1%
Boston College: 8.2%
Indiana: 7.5%
Illinois: 6.7%
WUSTL: 4.0%
"Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"
Notre Dame: 7.6%
Indiana: 4.7%
Boston College: 4.3%
Illinois: 4.2%
WUSTL: 3.0%
"Percent employed in all judicial clerkships"
Notre Dame: 15.1%
Boston College: 8.2%
Indiana: 7.5%
Illinois: 6.7%
WUSTL: 4.0%
"Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"
Notre Dame: 7.6%
Indiana: 4.7%
Boston College: 4.3%
Illinois: 4.2%
WUSTL: 3.0%
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definitely. then their graduates would be able to find employment. as of now they get no respect in Boston. Big firms just don't want to hire from a non-t25.jamie9248922 wrote:BC went up one...it really should push hard to get into the T25...maybe finally tie or get past BU
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TBF using NLJ250 data is essentially a way to pump up Fordham and GW at the expense of solid schools in smaller markets. The "good" firms in places like Indianapolis aren't likely to be NLJ250, but they're still decent options.rad law wrote:This will assuredly put them in the top 50 schools for NLJ250 stats. Biglaw employers will finally wise up.cowgirl_bebop wrote:SJU FTLfakemoney wrote:Damn, St. John's took a beating
On another note, good to see IUB go up into the top 25.
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Aha! So that WAS you in the stairwell.SBL wrote:I have left traces of my DNA all over the school to prevent this from happening. You're welcome.
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FuManChusco wrote:definitely. then their graduates would be able to find employment. as of now they get no respect in Boston. Big firms just don't want to hire from a non-t25.jamie9248922 wrote:BC went up one...it really should push hard to get into the T25...maybe finally tie or get past BU
I just want to get in. After my Maryland "prefered" waitlist today I can all but cross off the possibility.
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Yeah, but Indiana shouldn't be getting slaughtered by Iowa or even Wisconsin in those rankings. There's definitely a bias there, but not enough to explain why Indiana grossly underperforms its peer schools in this metric.SBL wrote:TBF using NLJ250 data is essentially a way to pump up Fordham and GW at the expense of solid schools in smaller markets. The "good" firms in places like Indianapolis aren't likely to be NLJ250, but they're still decent options.rad law wrote:This will assuredly put them in the top 50 schools for NLJ250 stats. Biglaw employers will finally wise up.cowgirl_bebop wrote:SJU FTLfakemoney wrote:Damn, St. John's took a beating
On another note, good to see IUB go up into the top 25.
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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)
Its not looking good for Emory...
Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)
#1 Yale University 94.50% 96.50%
#2 Harvard University 93.70% 97.50%
#3 Stanford University 94.50% 96.50%
#4 Columbia University 97.30% 97.80%
#5 University of Chicago 94.20% 99.00%
#6 New York University 96.40% 97.00%
#7 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor 94.90% 96.40%
#7 University of Pennsylvania 96.50% 97.70%
#9 University of California--Berkeley 92.20% 95.60%
#9 University of Virginia 97.00% 97.80%
#11 Duke University 95.90% 95.40%
#12 Northwestern University 92.70% 95.00%
#13 Cornell University 92.80% 97.40%
#14 Georgetown University 90.10% 92.30%
#14 University of Texas--Austin 92.80% 93.20%
#16 University of California--Los Angeles
#16 Vanderbilt University
#18 University of Southern California (Gould)
#18 Washington University in St. Louis 88.3% 95.5%
#20 George Washington University 93% 97.5%
#20 University of Minnesota--Twin Cities 84.70% 94.10%
#22 Boston University 85.50% 94.40%
#23 Indiana University--Bloomington (Maurer) 78.50% 89.20%
#23 University of California--Davis
#23 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
#23 University of Notre Dame 83.80% 93.40%
#27 Boston College 79.20% 94.30%
#27 College of William and Mary (Marshall-Wythe) 84.30% 93.70%
#27 University of Iowa
#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%
#30 Fordham University 79.40% 91.50%
Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)
#1 Yale University 94.50% 96.50%
#2 Harvard University 93.70% 97.50%
#3 Stanford University 94.50% 96.50%
#4 Columbia University 97.30% 97.80%
#5 University of Chicago 94.20% 99.00%
#6 New York University 96.40% 97.00%
#7 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor 94.90% 96.40%
#7 University of Pennsylvania 96.50% 97.70%
#9 University of California--Berkeley 92.20% 95.60%
#9 University of Virginia 97.00% 97.80%
#11 Duke University 95.90% 95.40%
#12 Northwestern University 92.70% 95.00%
#13 Cornell University 92.80% 97.40%
#14 Georgetown University 90.10% 92.30%
#14 University of Texas--Austin 92.80% 93.20%
#16 University of California--Los Angeles
#16 Vanderbilt University
#18 University of Southern California (Gould)
#18 Washington University in St. Louis 88.3% 95.5%
#20 George Washington University 93% 97.5%
#20 University of Minnesota--Twin Cities 84.70% 94.10%
#22 Boston University 85.50% 94.40%
#23 Indiana University--Bloomington (Maurer) 78.50% 89.20%
#23 University of California--Davis
#23 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
#23 University of Notre Dame 83.80% 93.40%
#27 Boston College 79.20% 94.30%
#27 College of William and Mary (Marshall-Wythe) 84.30% 93.70%
#27 University of Iowa
#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%
#30 Fordham University 79.40% 91.50%
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rad is winning
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Naw, SBL was merely having a j/o or 2 in the school , not sexing up a girl.ATR wrote:Aha! So that WAS you in the stairwell.SBL wrote:I have left traces of my DNA all over the school to prevent this from happening. You're welcome.
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Is that data for class of '09?aschup wrote: "Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"
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Thanks for defending my honor bro.rad law wrote:Naw, SBL was merely having a j/o or 2 in the school , not sexing up a girl.ATR wrote:Aha! So that WAS you in the stairwell.SBL wrote:I have left traces of my DNA all over the school to prevent this from happening. You're welcome.
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You are the runner up for this thread's Troll Award. Congrats!FuManChusco wrote:definitely. then their graduates would be able to find employment. as of now they get no respect in Boston. Big firms just don't want to hire from a non-t25.jamie9248922 wrote:BC went up one...it really should push hard to get into the T25...maybe finally tie or get past BU
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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)
source? (for my own curiosity)aschup wrote:LOL, "trending":
"Percent employed in all judicial clerkships"
Notre Dame: 15.1%
Boston College: 8.2%
Indiana: 7.5%
Illinois: 6.7%
WUSTL: 4.0%
"Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"
Notre Dame: 7.6%
Indiana: 4.7%
Boston College: 4.3%
Illinois: 4.2%
WUSTL: 3.0%
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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)
WUSTL has more a larger student body than all 4 of the other schools, and there are a finite number of fed and Art III clerkships to go around. You do the math.aschup wrote:LOL, "trending":
"Percent employed in all judicial clerkships"
Notre Dame: 15.1%
Boston College: 8.2%
Indiana: 7.5%
Illinois: 6.7%
WUSTL: 4.0%
"Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"
Notre Dame: 7.6%
Indiana: 4.7%
Boston College: 4.3%
Illinois: 4.2%
WUSTL: 3.0%
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What is up with Davis and others' missing data?rman1201 wrote:Its not looking good for Emory...
Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)
#23 University of California--Davis
#23 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
#23 University of Notre Dame 83.80% 93.40%
#27 Boston College 79.20% 94.30%
#27 College of William and Mary (Marshall-Wythe) 84.30% 93.70%
#27 University of Iowa
#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%
#30 Fordham University 79.40% 91.50%
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This is from a spreadsheet I started making, just with schools I care about atmGeneral Tso wrote:What is up with Davis and others' missing data?rman1201 wrote:Its not looking good for Emory...
Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)
#23 University of California--Davis
#23 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
#23 University of Notre Dame 83.80% 93.40%
#27 Boston College 79.20% 94.30%
#27 College of William and Mary (Marshall-Wythe) 84.30% 93.70%
#27 University of Iowa
#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%
#30 Fordham University 79.40% 91.50%
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this is the part where i seriously consider transferring back home to state school. am i really paying $40k/yr for 65% employment rate? and i love how all year the deans have been talking about how great things are looking, how emory is a mover & a shaker, blah blah blah. but i mean come on... 65%...rman1201 wrote:Its not looking good for Emory...
Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)
#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%
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