Baylor
- Quarter System - Good or Bad?
Third Year Trial Court
Bad Location
Very small class sizes
Tier 2
- Very well known for trial advocacy
Dominate moot court comps every year
Perfect Location
Tier 4
If you're positive you want to be a trial lawyer, neither is terrible but Baylor is by far the better choice. It wouldn't be prudent to go to either at sticker. FWIW, I hear from a recent baylor grad who estimated that probably 60% of his graduating class didn't have anything full time locked down. South Texas is okay if you want to stay in Houston, but your job prospects coming out of either of these schools are probably not gonna be good.FutureLitigator27 wrote:I haven't seen a thread comparing the two, so I figured I would start one. If we put aside the rankings, what reasons are there to choose South Texas over Baylor (or vice versa) to specialize in litigation and trial advocacy? I have been able to talk to some recent graduates over the last couple years and starting salary's for top students seem to be close, though not as high as UH or SMU. So South Texas's tier 4 ranking does not effect them too much.
BaylorSouth Texas
- Quarter System - Good or Bad?
Third Year Trial Court
Bad Location
Very small class sizes
Tier 2
- Very well known for trial advocacy
Dominate moot court comps every year
Perfect Location
Tier 4
Do you think Baylor produces better trial lawyers? Or would you choose Baylor because the ranking over South Texas is significant enough to effect employment after graduation? I have not received scholarship info from either school. I don't expect anything from Baylor, but they do offer merit scholarships based off first year grades. I am still waiting to be admitted or denied to SMU & UH.Marionberry wrote:
If you're positive you want to be a trial lawyer, neither is terrible but Baylor is by far the better choice. It wouldn't be prudent to go to either at sticker. FWIW, I hear from a recent baylor grad who estimated that probably 60% of his graduating class didn't have anything full time locked down. South Texas is okay if you want to stay in Houston, but your job prospects coming out of either of these schools are probably not gonna be good.
Baylor has a very good reputation throughout the state, South Texas less so. Either school will probably do a good job of preparing you to practice law, though ultimately your performance will come down to natural ability, your work ethic, and experience after school. The important thing to point out is that coming out of school primed to be a good trial lawyer is meaningless if you can't find a job. Your chances of finding a job from Baylor/UH/SMU are much better. As far as goign straight into solo work, that is nigh impossible if you don't have a mentor or someone to office with. Starting your own practice with 6 figures of debt over your head would be a recipe for disaster, if possible at all.FutureLitigator27 wrote:Do you think Baylor produces better trial lawyers? Or would you choose Baylor because the ranking over South Texas is significant enough to effect employment after graduation? I have not received scholarship info from either school. I don't expect anything from Baylor, but they do offer merit scholarships based off first year grades. I am still waiting to be admitted or denied to SMU & UH.Marionberry wrote:
If you're positive you want to be a trial lawyer, neither is terrible but Baylor is by far the better choice. It wouldn't be prudent to go to either at sticker. FWIW, I hear from a recent baylor grad who estimated that probably 60% of his graduating class didn't have anything full time locked down. South Texas is okay if you want to stay in Houston, but your job prospects coming out of either of these schools are probably not gonna be good.
FutureLitigator27 wrote:Do you think Baylor produces better trial lawyers? Or would you choose Baylor because the ranking over South Texas is significant enough to effect employment after graduation? I have not received scholarship info from either school. I don't expect anything from Baylor, but they do offer merit scholarships based off first year grades. I am still waiting to be admitted or denied to SMU & UH.Marionberry wrote:
If you're positive you want to be a trial lawyer, neither is terrible but Baylor is by far the better choice. It wouldn't be prudent to go to either at sticker. FWIW, I hear from a recent baylor grad who estimated that probably 60% of his graduating class didn't have anything full time locked down. South Texas is okay if you want to stay in Houston, but your job prospects coming out of either of these schools are probably not gonna be good.
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There's still criminal law, and small time civil litigation.Aqualibrium wrote:FutureLitigator27 wrote:Do you think Baylor produces better trial lawyers? Or would you choose Baylor because the ranking over South Texas is significant enough to effect employment after graduation? I have not received scholarship info from either school. I don't expect anything from Baylor, but they do offer merit scholarships based off first year grades. I am still waiting to be admitted or denied to SMU & UH.Marionberry wrote:
If you're positive you want to be a trial lawyer, neither is terrible but Baylor is by far the better choice. It wouldn't be prudent to go to either at sticker. FWIW, I hear from a recent baylor grad who estimated that probably 60% of his graduating class didn't have anything full time locked down. South Texas is okay if you want to stay in Houston, but your job prospects coming out of either of these schools are probably not gonna be good.
Something like 2% of Federal civil cases go to trial. The number in state cases is not as low, but is still pretty dismal. Don't go to a school @ sticker expecting to be a trial lawyer...
I mean go if you want to go, I've never been one to discourage people from exercising their free choice, but this idea of which makes better trial lawyers just doesn't matter much.
I don't have plans to become a trial lawyer specifically. The schools I've looked at that are known for their trial advocacy programs have a lot more courses dedicated to litigation. I see myself following my uncles footsteps into personal injury.Aqualibrium wrote:
Something like 2% of Federal civil cases go to trial. The number in state cases is not as low, but is still pretty dismal. Don't go to a school @ sticker expecting to be a trial lawyer...
I don't even really want to do litigation, and Aqua, you are usually good at things... but on this point you are wrong. There is more to being a trial lawyer than having most of your cases go to trial. I know people who consider themselves "trial lawyers" and it is extremely rare that their cases ever actually go to trial.Aqualibrium wrote:Something like 2% of Federal civil cases go to trial. The number in state cases is not as low, but is still pretty dismal. Don't go to a school @ sticker expecting to be a trial lawyer...
I mean go if you want to go, I've never been one to discourage people from exercising their free choice, but this idea of which makes better trial lawyers just doesn't matter much.
I appreciate the compliment Keg.keg411 wrote:I don't even really want to do litigation, and Aqua, you are usually good at things... but on this point you are wrong. There is more to being a trial lawyer than having most of your cases go to trial. I know people who consider themselves "trial lawyers" and it is extremely rare that their cases ever actually go to trial.Aqualibrium wrote:Something like 2% of Federal civil cases go to trial. The number in state cases is not as low, but is still pretty dismal. Don't go to a school @ sticker expecting to be a trial lawyer...
I mean go if you want to go, I've never been one to discourage people from exercising their free choice, but this idea of which makes better trial lawyers just doesn't matter much.
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