unexpected duke fee waiver. What does that mean? Forum

erhulao · Post by **erhulao** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:01 pm

Hi, I just got the duke fee waiver but I totally didn't expect that because of my LSAT score is not even close to their median, (170) but my GPA is above 3.9.
Should I apply???

Adjudicator · Post by **Adjudicator** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:02 pm

Apply if you would like to go there, but it is not any sort of guarantee.

erhulao · Post by **erhulao** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:05 pm

Adjudicator wrote:Apply if you would like to go there, but it is not any sort of guarantee.

Thank you. I understand that it's not any sort of guarantee but I will go ahead and apply!

hokie · Post by **hokie** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:12 pm

it's $12 to give yourself a shot [no matter how slim] at T14 school. Why not?

erhulao · Post by **erhulao** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:18 pm

hokie wrote:it's $12 to give yourself a shot [no matter how slim] at T14 school. Why not?

Thanks a lot! I'm really interested in their joint program- M. Engineering/ JD. I will apply under ED then.

plug1 · Post by **plug1** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:26 pm

I got the same thing even tho theres almost no chance of me being accepted. weird.

fish52 · Post by **fish52** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:29 pm

I also just received a fee waiver. It looks like they are sending out a lot of fee waivers to get their application numbers up. Selectivity is a component of the US News rankings, so the more people they deny, the higher their ranking. I tend to think that as long as your numbers are close, anyone has a chance... but I wouldn't take a late fee waiver like this as any indication that you are a lock.

I'll echo a comment above, however, that it's worth $12 to take a shot at it.

erhulao · Post by **erhulao** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:35 pm

fish52 wrote:I also just received a fee waiver. It looks like they are sending out a lot of fee waivers to get their application numbers up. Selectivity is a component of the US News rankings, so the more people they deny, the higher their ranking. I tend to think that as long as your numbers are close, anyone has a chance... but I wouldn't take a late fee waiver like this as any indication that you are a lock.

I'll echo a comment above, however, that it's worth $12 to take a shot at it.

They are indeed evil...

Aggiegrad2011 · Post by **Aggiegrad2011** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:36 pm

It shocked me when I received it, mostly because it's so late in the cycle. I think I'm passing on this one.

erhulao · Post by **erhulao** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:02 pm

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:It shocked me when I received it, mostly because it's so late in the cycle. I think I'm passing on this one.

feel so sad that they just sent it to boost the number of applications...

Aggiegrad2011 · Post by **Aggiegrad2011** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:03 pm

erhulao wrote:
Aggiegrad2011 wrote:It shocked me when I received it, mostly because it's so late in the cycle. I think I'm passing on this one.
feel so sad that they just sent it to boost the number of applications...

I know. I kinda thought, well, my GPA is over 4.00, maybe they just need a higher GPA in their 2014 class! But, yeah, no.

Reedie · Post by **Reedie** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:06 pm

I doubt this is JUST to boost applications. NYU was famous for doing this and they admitted me with marginal numbers off a fee waiver last cycle. 170/3.9 should make for a good shot.

Patriot1208 · Post by **Patriot1208** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:06 pm

Schools give fee waivers to get more applications to reduce their acceptance rate. A LOT of people get fee waivers and get rejected.

Aggiegrad2011 · Post by **Aggiegrad2011** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:07 pm

Reedie wrote:I doubt this is JUST to boost applications. NYU was famous for doing this and they admitted me with marginal numbers off a fee waiver last cycle. 170/3.9 should make for a good shot.

They have to be. I have a 162 (albeit with a 4.08 LSAC GPA...) so... there's no way they want me. Only explanation ends up being boosting their %.

Patriot1208 · Post by **Patriot1208** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:07 pm

Reedie wrote:I doubt this is JUST to boost applications. NYU was famous for doing this and they admitted me with marginal numbers off a fee waiver last cycle. 170/3.9 should make for a good shot.

OP has a low 160's LSAT.

Reedie · Post by **Reedie** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:08 pm

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:
Reedie wrote:I doubt this is JUST to boost applications. NYU was famous for doing this and they admitted me with marginal numbers off a fee waiver last cycle. 170/3.9 should make for a good shot.
They have to be. I have a 162 (albeit with a 4.08 LSAC GPA...) so... there's no way they want me. Only explanation ends up being boosting their %.

162/4.08 boosts gpa median if that's what they want to do. And based on the info here, maybe it is.

Reedie · Post by **Reedie** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:09 pm

Patriot1208 wrote:
Reedie wrote:I doubt this is JUST to boost applications. NYU was famous for doing this and they admitted me with marginal numbers off a fee waiver last cycle. 170/3.9 should make for a good shot.
OP has a low 160's LSAT.

Ach, read it too fast.

Aggiegrad2011 · Post by **Aggiegrad2011** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:10 pm

Looking at the last 3 years of TLS data (which is a decent sample, right?), the only 162/163 LSAT'ers admitted were URM. Granted, I have some nice softs including military deployments but... yeah I dunno.

Patriot1208 · Post by **Patriot1208** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:14 pm

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:Looking at the last 3 years of TLS data (which is a decent sample, right?), the only 162/163 LSAT'ers admitted were URM. Granted, I have some nice softs including military deployments but... yeah I dunno.

It ain't happening (well, it's VERY VERY unlikely)

Aggiegrad2011 · Post by **Aggiegrad2011** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:15 pm

Patriot1208 wrote:
Aggiegrad2011 wrote:Looking at the last 3 years of TLS data (which is a decent sample, right?), the only 162/163 LSAT'ers admitted were URM. Granted, I have some nice softs including military deployments but... yeah I dunno.
It ain't happening (well, it's VERY VERY unlikely)

Precisely my thoughts and why I am passing on this. They can find someone else to raise their selectivity.

Patriot1208 · Post by **Patriot1208** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:20 pm

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:
Aggiegrad2011 wrote:Looking at the last 3 years of TLS data (which is a decent sample, right?), the only 162/163 LSAT'ers admitted were URM. Granted, I have some nice softs including military deployments but... yeah I dunno.
It ain't happening (well, it's VERY VERY unlikely)
Precisely my thoughts and why I am passing on this. They can find someone else to raise their selectivity.

I mean, if it's free and requires very little work, i'd take the hail mary. Just don't expect anything.

Kobe_Teeth · Post by **Kobe_Teeth** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:21 pm

Apply, but just know they gave it to you to reject you. USNWR strikes again.

Best case scenario:
They mercifully WL you and you get to tell people at the school you actually end up at that you "almost" got into Duke off the waitlist.

fish52 · Post by **fish52** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:26 pm

As I said, it's possibly (probably) an attempt to get their #s up. Pathetic, but that's the game! I still think that you if you think you have a decent shot, and you would like to end up at Duke... you might as well go for it. You don't have that much to lose.

Aggiegrad2011 · Post by **Aggiegrad2011** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:27 pm

Patriot1208 wrote:
Aggiegrad2011 wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:
Aggiegrad2011 wrote:Looking at the last 3 years of TLS data (which is a decent sample, right?), the only 162/163 LSAT'ers admitted were URM. Granted, I have some nice softs including military deployments but... yeah I dunno.
It ain't happening (well, it's VERY VERY unlikely)
Precisely my thoughts and why I am passing on this. They can find someone else to raise their selectivity.
I mean, if it's free and requires very little work, i'd take the hail mary. Just don't expect anything.

Heh, it's OK, I'm perfectly alright stewing on UCLA's waitlist, I don't need another. LOL

erhulao · Post by **erhulao** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:28 pm

fish52 wrote:As I said, it's possibly (probably) an attempt to get their #s up. Pathetic, but that's the game! I still think that you if you think you have a decent shot, and you would like to end up at Duke... you might as well go for it. You don't have that much to lose.

My LSAT is score is too low, 160 even though my GPA is very high and I'm a foreigner, I feel that I have very slim chance of getting into any of the top 20.

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