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Judith Butler

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Best School to study disability rights?
I want to go to law school so I can help the Deaf community. Where should I go?
- vanwinkle

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
HYS.
Seriously, if your goal is to do any kind of civil rights activist work, go to the best school you can, especially one that has a great loan forgiveness program.
Seriously, if your goal is to do any kind of civil rights activist work, go to the best school you can, especially one that has a great loan forgiveness program.
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Borhas

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
SYH
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Danteshek

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
The Disability Rights Legal Center is located at Loyola Law School.
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- vanwinkle

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
The problem is that the OP seems to be asking two separate questions.Danteshek wrote:The Disability Rights Legal Center is located at Loyola Law School.
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This helps the title, which is where the best school to study disability rights is. You could work at that legal center pro bono all through your law school tenure and probably study quite a bit about disability rights law.
However, OP also said they want to go to law school to help the deaf community, which also implies wanting to practice in that field when they graduate. In that case, HYS is the correct response, followed by the rest of the T14. Civil rights law is an intensely competitive field, and to have the best chance of getting a job you need to be in the best possible position when you graduate, which means going to the best school you possibly can.
That Disability Rights Legal Center is a nice thing, but notice how their entire civil rights litigation department is six people, one of whom is in a temporary fellowship position. You're not getting a job there when you graduate. In fact, it looks like much of the work they do requires pro bono assistance from outside attorneys; you'd be more likely to work for them at all by going to a school that would get you BigLaw (which means T14 or better), and then volunteering to help them pro bono for as many pro bono hours as your law firm will allow.
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Judith Butler

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
vanwinkle wrote:The problem is that the OP seems to be asking two separate questions.Danteshek wrote:The Disability Rights Legal Center is located at Loyola Law School.
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This helps the title, which is where the best school to study disability rights is. You could work at that legal center pro bono all through your law school tenure and probably study quite a bit about disability rights law.
However, OP also said they want to go to law school to help the deaf community, which also implies wanting to practice in that field when they graduate. In that case, HYS is the correct response, followed by the rest of the T14. Civil rights law is an intensely competitive field, and to have the best chance of getting a job you need to be in the best possible position when you graduate, which means going to the best school you possibly can.
That Disability Rights Legal Center is a nice thing, but notice how their entire civil rights litigation department is six people, one of whom is in a temporary fellowship position. You're not getting a job there when you graduate. In fact, it looks like much of the work they do requires pro bono assistance from outside attorneys; you'd be more likely to work for them at all by going to a school that would get you BigLaw (which means T14 or better), and then volunteering to help them pro bono for as many pro bono hours as your law firm will allow.
Best answer. Thanks.
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Borhas

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
yes yes yes going to SYH/YSH is better for getting ANY jobvanwinkle wrote:The problem is that the OP seems to be asking two separate questions.Danteshek wrote:The Disability Rights Legal Center is located at Loyola Law School.
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This helps the title, which is where the best school to study disability rights is. You could work at that legal center pro bono all through your law school tenure and probably study quite a bit about disability rights law.
However, OP also said they want to go to law school to help the deaf community, which also implies wanting to practice in that field when they graduate. In that case, HYS is the correct response, followed by the rest of the T14. Civil rights law is an intensely competitive field, and to have the best chance of getting a job you need to be in the best possible position when you graduate, which means going to the best school you possibly can.
That Disability Rights Legal Center is a nice thing, but notice how their entire civil rights litigation department is six people, one of whom is in a temporary fellowship position. You're not getting a job there when you graduate. In fact, it looks like much of the work they do requires pro bono assistance from outside attorneys; you'd be more likely to work for them at all by going to a school that would get you BigLaw (which means T14 or better), and then volunteering to help them pro bono for as many pro bono hours as your law firm will allow.
but what frustrates me about these sorts of empty answers is that they give no especially useful information. Aside from saying specialty in law school may not be a particularly important choice in school, it's also important to recognize that when weighing options people aren't weighing Loyola vs. YSH/SYH they are weighing Loyola against schools in that region like USC, ASU, USD etc and in that pool of similarly selective schools (so maybe not USC) but Tulane, Florida, Pepperdine etc...
Which regions have places that even do that sort of thing?
which schools have clinics that deal with that sort of thing?
these factors ought to be weighed within the selectivity class of possible schools...
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Renzo

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
True, in a perfect world. But I understand the violence with which people here respond, because schools tell a lot of lies about just how far a specialty center will carry your career beyond that class of comparably selective schools.Borhas wrote:
yes yes yes going to SYH/YSH is better for getting ANY job
but what frustrates me about these sorts of empty answers is that they give no especially useful information. Aside from saying specialty in law school may not be a particularly important choice in school, it's also important to recognize that when weighing options people aren't weighing Loyola vs. YSH/SYH they are weighing Loyola against schools in that region like USC, ASU, USD etc and in that pool of similarly selective schools (so maybe not USC) but Tulane, Florida, Pepperdine etc...
Which regions have places that even do that sort of thing?
which schools have clinics that deal with that sort of thing?
these factors ought to be weighed within the selectivity class of possible schools...
- IAFG

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
If you want to help deaf people become a social worker or lobbyist or something, WTF
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Danteshek

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
I feel like TLS is like a Twilight Zone where everyone has the numbers to go to HYS
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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
IAFG wrote:If you want to help deaf people become a social worker or lobbyist or something, WTF
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Borhas

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
or thatIAFG wrote:If you want to help deaf people become a social worker or lobbyist or something, WTF
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Judith Butler

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
I'm not charming enough for politics and I'm too mean to be a social worker. Interpreting is boring and doesn't suit my personality.IAFG wrote:If you want to help deaf people become a social worker or lobbyist or something, WTF
Lobbyists didn't get the ADA passed by themselves. Snarky lawyers were behind that too.
I know a lawyer who is very involved with the Deaf community here. If my paid work is unrelated to public service I can cope as long as I can do pro bono on the side. A legal education that emphasizes PS would be helpful either way.
Thanks for your constructive criticism.
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JOThompson

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
Attend the best school that you can. Specialty rankings and programs do not translate into better job placement in those areas.
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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
So go ask the person you know in the field. I rather doubt they will recommend picking out a school based on specialty though.Judith Butler wrote:I'm not charming enough for politics and I'm too mean to be a social worker. Interpreting is boring and doesn't suit my personality.IAFG wrote:If you want to help deaf people become a social worker or lobbyist or something, WTF
Lobbyists didn't get the ADA passed by themselves. Snarky lawyers were behind that too.
I know a lawyer who is very involved with the Deaf community here. If my paid work is unrelated to public service I can cope as long as I can do pro bono on the side. A legal education that emphasizes PS would be helpful either way.
Thanks for your constructive criticism.
- vanwinkle

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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
This is pretty much what I said, just much more concisely. And just as true.JOThompson wrote:Attend the best school that you can. Specialty rankings and programs do not translate into better job placement in those areas.
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Re: Best School to study disability rights?
I don't know what numbers you're working with here, but Berkeley probably has the strongest awareness of disability rights out of any school in the country.Their application asks specific questions about whether you have a disability, and this is probably related to Berkeley's heavy involvement in disability rights in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Berkeley probably has the strongest connections to this specific civil rights issue, and their public interest programs are already some of the strongest in the country. I would encourage you to contact Boalt's administration and look into more details if you know disability rights is what you want to do.
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