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quinnipiac w/25k vs. penn state at sticker... 2 days to pick

Post by drewski » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:07 pm

I was waitlisted at penn state, and literally was just accepted. I had put my deposit in at quinnipiac, and they had given me 25k/year. I havent found out if penn state will give me anything. Please help me, and suggestions are appreciated. I have two days to make a decision.

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Re: quinnipiac w/25k vs. penn state at sticker... 2 days to pick

Post by dukelawguy144 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:16 pm

Both are not very good choices. I would retake and reapply.

I met one graduate from quinnopiac. She is working as some low
level comissioned based recruiter making only 50k a year. She graduated in the middle of her class. If your wealthy, go to Penn state. But I would reccomend not going to either

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Re: quinnipiac w/25k vs. penn state at sticker... 2 days to pick

Post by drewski » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:22 pm

I personally know someone out of quinnipiac who makes 120k/yr right out of school. But I do realize the risk of attending, and I do understand the general sentiment on these forums of T-14 or nothing, but thats not what I'm interested in hearing about. I will be attending one, just want some helpful/productive feedback.

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Post by kalvano » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:09 pm

A more pertinent question is where do you want to work? Both are going to limit you to very specific areas.

All things being equal, take the money.

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Post by cartercl » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:17 pm

dukelawguy144 wrote:Both are not very good choices. I would retake and reapply.

I met one graduate from quinnopiac. She is working as some low
level comissioned based recruiter making only 50k a year. She graduated in the middle of her class. If your wealthy, go to Penn state. But I would reccomend not going to either
Don't listen to this guy...

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Re: quinnipiac w/25k vs. penn state at sticker... 2 days to pick

Post by drewski » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:18 pm

I am from New Hampshire, and am very comfortable in the northeast. There is a family business in PA, and no matter where (in New England/NY/PA) I will be comfortable, although I will probably want to ultimately practice in New England. (but who the hell truly knows at 22).

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Post by GATORTIM » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:21 pm

cartercl wrote:
dukelawguy144 wrote:Both are not very good choices. I would retake and reapply.

I met one graduate from quinnopiac. She is working as some low
level comissioned based recruiter making only 50k a year. She graduated in the middle of her class. If your wealthy, go to Penn state. But I would reccomend not going to either
Don't listen to this guy...
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I would take PSU, strong alumni network

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Re: quinnipiac w/25k vs. penn state at sticker... 2 days to pick

Post by drewski » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:27 pm

Maybe thats a better way to frame the question. If you were in my position, and had to pick one, which would you go with?

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Post by Grizz » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:29 pm

drewski wrote:Maybe thats a better way to frame the question. If you were in my position, and had to pick one, which would you go with?
I would go with retake.

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Post by buckythebadger » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:42 pm

dukelawguy144 wrote:Both are not very good choices. I would retake and reapply.

I met one graduate from quinnopiac. She is working as some low
level comissioned based recruiter making only 50k a year. She graduated in the middle of her class. If your wealthy, go to Penn state. But I would reccomend not going to either
I've read many of your posts, and I hope you don't rationalize conclusions as a lawyer as quickly as you do on this forum. No one should listen to any of your 'advice'.

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Re: quinnipiac w/25k vs. penn state at sticker... 2 days to pick

Post by A'nold » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:51 pm

To the first guy that said "neither": stfu

To rad law: what the hell dude? You usually give decent advice but giving a blanket "retake" to somebody that is getting 25k a year at a t3 without knowing his story is completely dickish and potentially harmful.

If dude wants to be an ADA in some county in CT, for example, your advice would be retarded.

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Post by drewski » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:59 pm

Keep the advice coming lol. I am decided on law school, whether or not I am going (I am) is not what this is about. Just looking for some productive input, back to the Quinnipiac with money, vs. Penn State without. I was a finance undergrad, LSAT 159, GPA 3.48, don't really know exactly what I want to do, except probably more something like estate planning or taxes or something in the realm of finance (I know I know, I won't be in big law). I enjoyed my undergrad major, and I hope that provides you with a little more background to help me out. I literally was told I had two days to get back to Penn State, so I really would like some guidance.

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Post by Grizz » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:06 pm

A'nold wrote: To rad law: what the hell dude? You usually give decent advice but giving a blanket "retake" to somebody that is getting 25k a year at a t3 without knowing his story is completely dickish and potentially harmful.
I've got $24k/yr at T17 (yes yes blatant whatever trolling) and I am still scared. I wouldn't pay the same price for the 2nd best school in Connecticut.

Penn State is far and away not worth sticker.

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Re: quinnipiac w/25k vs. penn state at sticker... 2 days to pick

Post by kalvano » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:37 pm

drewski wrote:There is a family business in PA

So you have a job waiting for you?

Go to Quinnipiac. Cheaper and if the name on the degree doesn't matter as much...

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Post by drewski » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:42 pm

Not a law job unfortunately. ^^ red law, better post lol. What do you all think it would be like in, say, Boston if I were to try to get a job there? Would quinnipiac or penn state look better in that scenario?

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Post by Grizz » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:44 pm

drewski wrote:Not a law job unfortunately. ^^ red law, better post lol. What do you all think it would be like in, say, Boston if I were to try to get a job there? Would quinnipiac or penn state look better in that scenario?
If you want to work in Boston, absent strong connections, don't go to either of these.

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Post by paz » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:47 pm

both aren't very good; retake/reapply or take the lesser of the two evils ($$ choice.) there is nothing else to say about this.

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Post by kalvano » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:49 pm

Oh. Since it's not a law job, I'm really not sure how to answer this one.

On the one hand, Quinnipiac is offering $25K a year. However, it's a T3 school in a saturated market (Northeast USA). Penn State, while not being an elite school, at least has a pretty strong alumni base and name recognition outside of PA.

Is the scholarship free and clear or are there strings?

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Post by manbearwig » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:23 pm

kalvano wrote:Oh. Since it's not a law job, I'm really not sure how to answer this one.

On the one hand, Quinnipiac is offering $25K a year. However, it's a T3 school in a saturated market (Northeast USA). Penn State, while not being an elite school, at least has a pretty strong alumni base and name recognition outside of PA.

Is the scholarship free and clear or are there strings?
Penn State has name recognition, but does its law school? PSU Law is basically limited to central PA. If the OP doesn't want to practice in central PA, don't go to Penn State.

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Post by bk1 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:25 pm

What are your numbers?

If you want Boston, retake/reapply for BC/BU.

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Post by kalvano » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:26 pm

manbearwig wrote:
kalvano wrote:Oh. Since it's not a law job, I'm really not sure how to answer this one.

On the one hand, Quinnipiac is offering $25K a year. However, it's a T3 school in a saturated market (Northeast USA). Penn State, while not being an elite school, at least has a pretty strong alumni base and name recognition outside of PA.

Is the scholarship free and clear or are there strings?
Penn State has name recognition, but does its law school? PSU Law is basically limited to central PA. If the OP doesn't want to practice in central PA, don't go to Penn State.

But how much more limited is Quinnipiac?

A 12-mile radius around the school?

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Post by drewski » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:29 pm

Only strings for scholarship is finish top 50% to get the whole thing 2nd year, from .25 to .5 percentile to get half, and if you finish lower you get nothing. Also, I was just using boston as a point of reference to see what "Penn State" and what "Quinnipiac" means, not because I really want to work there.

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Re: quinnipiac w/25k vs. penn state at sticker... 2 days to pick

Post by manbearwig » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:30 pm

kalvano wrote:
manbearwig wrote:
kalvano wrote:Oh. Since it's not a law job, I'm really not sure how to answer this one.

On the one hand, Quinnipiac is offering $25K a year. However, it's a T3 school in a saturated market (Northeast USA). Penn State, while not being an elite school, at least has a pretty strong alumni base and name recognition outside of PA.

Is the scholarship free and clear or are there strings?
Penn State has name recognition, but does its law school? PSU Law is basically limited to central PA. If the OP doesn't want to practice in central PA, don't go to Penn State.

But how much more limited is Quinnipiac?

A 12-mile radius around the school?
I really know nothing about Quinnipiac, so I can't help there. Though if it's as iffy as people are making it out, PSU might be a better choice. I have heard anecdotes of people finding jobs throughout the mid-atlantic/lower northeast, so while I'd never bet on that, it is possible.

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Post by bk1 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:33 pm

I generally agree with the retake/reapply crowd. It is often a viable option when considering whether to attend or not. If scoring a higher LSAT is possible and could get you closer to schools that align with closer to your goals (whatever those may be) or merely just better job prospects, I don't see why it isn't on the table. Especially if you can make a drastic jump in school quality via some improvement on the LSAT.

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Post by fenway » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:35 pm

absolutely do not go to either if you want to practice in Boston (assuming no siccck connections). After doomsday comes and goes, I think either P or Q will do fine in their respective region. But you do not have a prayer getting a good law job in Boston sans connections. You have the 10% at Harvard who stay NE, BC 50% BU 50% Northeastern 70% Suffolk 85ish% and then New England law on top of that. Slide in the t14 Boston movers and you are looking at next to nothing for either P or Q (for Boston).

If you want Boston, you should wait a year, boost LSAT, and then reapply with a cycle such as below:

165+
BC
BU
Suffolk w$$$$$
Northeastern $$

160-165
Northeastern $
Suffolk $$$

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