American University or William & Mary? Forum
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danieltorrey

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American University or William & Mary?
Hi everyone,
I am in a bit of a conundrum, I need your help in order to choose between American University and The College of William & Mary for law school.
Basically, my dilemma has to do with my background. I am a foreign attorney graduated in a civil law country; I wish to get a JD degree from a U.S. law school in order to have two countries in which I can practice law, in this way, I wish to focus on transnational/international/comparative law because those are the areas of the law where having two nation's bars (one civil law, the other common law) would make me "special" to employers.
So here we go, if I need to chose between American University, which is ranked 45th overall, and W & M, which is ranked 28th, which one should I pick? It would seem that W & M is the obvious choice (better ranked, cheaper, cheaper cost of living etc.). BUT, American University is ranked 8th nationwide on international law, and W & M is not even top 10.
So I guess, the point at issue is, which is more valuable, graduating from a school better ranked overall or better ranked in the specific field in which one wants to practice?
What do you guys (and gals) think?
Cheers.
I am in a bit of a conundrum, I need your help in order to choose between American University and The College of William & Mary for law school.
Basically, my dilemma has to do with my background. I am a foreign attorney graduated in a civil law country; I wish to get a JD degree from a U.S. law school in order to have two countries in which I can practice law, in this way, I wish to focus on transnational/international/comparative law because those are the areas of the law where having two nation's bars (one civil law, the other common law) would make me "special" to employers.
So here we go, if I need to chose between American University, which is ranked 45th overall, and W & M, which is ranked 28th, which one should I pick? It would seem that W & M is the obvious choice (better ranked, cheaper, cheaper cost of living etc.). BUT, American University is ranked 8th nationwide on international law, and W & M is not even top 10.
So I guess, the point at issue is, which is more valuable, graduating from a school better ranked overall or better ranked in the specific field in which one wants to practice?
What do you guys (and gals) think?
Cheers.
- webbylu87

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Re: American University or William & Mary?
Scholarships?
- A'nold

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Re: American University or William & Mary?
W&M, don't pay any attention to specialty rankings.
- OneKnight

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Re: American University or William & Mary?
The specialty rankings mean relatively little, if not nothing at all. Yeah, American stresses I-Law, which means there are more classes to take/professors with an interest in I-Law, but the William & Mary name will go farther and it still has plenty of courses on the subject. Definitely W&M IMO.
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Re: American University or William & Mary?
WM >>>>> American. The disparity between American and WM is more than the rankings would suggest.
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- webbylu87

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Re: American University or William & Mary?
Agreed with all of the above. But the OP is an international student and finances are a little more difficult in their situation. These can't be ignored and need to play a central role in the OP's decision.Blindmelon wrote:WM >>>>> American. The disparity between American and WM is more than the rankings would suggest.
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Isn't that another plus on the W&M side?webbylu87 wrote:Agreed with all of the above. But the OP is an international student and finances are a little more difficult in their situation. These can't be ignored and need to play a central role in the OP's decision.Blindmelon wrote:WM >>>>> American. The disparity between American and WM is more than the rankings would suggest.
- webbylu87

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Re: American University or William & Mary?
Possibly but what I mean is that international students can't take out federal loans without a US co-signer. They may need loans from their home country. It's MUCH more complicated for international students to finance a law degree and therefore the OP may need to take the LS with the larger scholarship depending on his/her financial circumstances. I agree though that W&M is the better investment and the better choice if the OP can afford it.bk187 wrote:Isn't that another plus on the W&M side?webbylu87 wrote:Agreed with all of the above. But the OP is an international student and finances are a little more difficult in their situation. These can't be ignored and need to play a central role in the OP's decision.Blindmelon wrote:WM >>>>> American. The disparity between American and WM is more than the rankings would suggest.
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danieltorrey

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Re: American University or William & Mary?
I can take federal loans and grants since I am here under a green card, so I am not as concerned about money as to which school would be better for me, foreign attorney seeking to work in international/transnational law. So, even though W & M is not as well known in the international/transnational arena, it still beats American because overall reputation beats specialty reputation? Even if one definitely wants to work in the international law field?webbylu87 wrote:Possibly but what I mean is that international students can't take out federal loans without a US co-signer. They may need loans from their home country. It's MUCH more complicated for international students to finance a law degree and therefore the OP may need to take the LS with the larger scholarship depending on his/her financial circumstances. I agree though that W&M is the better investment and the better choice if the OP can afford it.bk187 wrote:Isn't that another plus on the W&M side?webbylu87 wrote:Agreed with all of the above. But the OP is an international student and finances are a little more difficult in their situation. These can't be ignored and need to play a central role in the OP's decision.Blindmelon wrote:WM >>>>> American. The disparity between American and WM is more than the rankings would suggest.
Thank you much to all who replied, its really appreciated.
Cheers.
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Re: American University or William & Mary?
This
and ThisA'nold wrote:W&M, don't pay any attention to specialty rankings.
also thisOneKnight wrote:The specialty rankings mean relatively little, if not nothing at all. Yeah, American stresses I-Law, which means there are more classes to take/professors with an interest in I-Law, but the William & Mary name will go farther and it still has plenty of courses on the subject. Definitely W&M IMO.
Blindmelon wrote:WM >>>>> American. The disparity between American and WM is more than the rankings would suggest.
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danieltorrey

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Re: American University or William & Mary?
You all made it very clear, thanks!!superflush wrote:This
and ThisA'nold wrote:W&M, don't pay any attention to specialty rankings.
also thisOneKnight wrote:The specialty rankings mean relatively little, if not nothing at all. Yeah, American stresses I-Law, which means there are more classes to take/professors with an interest in I-Law, but the William & Mary name will go farther and it still has plenty of courses on the subject. Definitely W&M IMO.
Blindmelon wrote:WM >>>>> American. The disparity between American and WM is more than the rankings would suggest.
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Re: American University or William & Mary?
I wish all questions were this easy, TLS ftw!danieltorrey wrote:You all made it very clear, thanks!!superflush wrote:This
and ThisA'nold wrote:W&M, don't pay any attention to specialty rankings.
also thisOneKnight wrote:The specialty rankings mean relatively little, if not nothing at all. Yeah, American stresses I-Law, which means there are more classes to take/professors with an interest in I-Law, but the William & Mary name will go farther and it still has plenty of courses on the subject. Definitely W&M IMO.
Blindmelon wrote:WM >>>>> American. The disparity between American and WM is more than the rankings would suggest.
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danieltorrey

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Re: American University or William & Mary?
Teoeo wrote:I wish all questions were this easy, TLS ftw!danieltorrey wrote:You all made it very clear, thanks!!superflush wrote:This
and ThisA'nold wrote:W&M, don't pay any attention to specialty rankings.
also thisOneKnight wrote:The specialty rankings mean relatively little, if not nothing at all. Yeah, American stresses I-Law, which means there are more classes to take/professors with an interest in I-Law, but the William & Mary name will go farther and it still has plenty of courses on the subject. Definitely W&M IMO.
Blindmelon wrote:WM >>>>> American. The disparity between American and WM is more than the rankings would suggest.
Oh, I am sure I have asked some way trickier in other posts hahaha!
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- webbylu87

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Re: American University or William & Mary?
Then, yes. W&M all the way.danieltorrey wrote:I can take federal loans and grants since I am here under a green card, so I am not as concerned about money as to which school would be better for me, foreign attorney seeking to work in international/transnational law. So, even though W & M is not as well known in the international/transnational arena, it still beats American because overall reputation beats specialty reputation? Even if one definitely wants to work in the international law field?webbylu87 wrote: Possibly but what I mean is that international students can't take out federal loans without a US co-signer. They may need loans from their home country. It's MUCH more complicated for international students to finance a law degree and therefore the OP may need to take the LS with the larger scholarship depending on his/her financial circumstances. I agree though that W&M is the better investment and the better choice if the OP can afford it.
Thank you much to all who replied, its really appreciated.
Cheers.
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danieltorrey

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Re: American University or William & Mary?
Alright, thank you much, I am convinced!!webbylu87 wrote:Then, yes. W&M all the way.danieltorrey wrote:I can take federal loans and grants since I am here under a green card, so I am not as concerned about money as to which school would be better for me, foreign attorney seeking to work in international/transnational law. So, even though W & M is not as well known in the international/transnational arena, it still beats American because overall reputation beats specialty reputation? Even if one definitely wants to work in the international law field?webbylu87 wrote: Possibly but what I mean is that international students can't take out federal loans without a US co-signer. They may need loans from their home country. It's MUCH more complicated for international students to finance a law degree and therefore the OP may need to take the LS with the larger scholarship depending on his/her financial circumstances. I agree though that W&M is the better investment and the better choice if the OP can afford it.
Thank you much to all who replied, its really appreciated.
Cheers.
Cheers
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