Decision time debt v no debt Forum
- Matteliszt

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Decision time debt v no debt
Am i rationalizing this correctly?
I want to do big law/mid law.
Currently, I have a 10k/yr scholly to UNC and am an out of state resident. I am WL at William and Mary(out of state), Emory, and Notre Dame
I have 80k in the bank for school and UNC is 45k/yr out of state and 35k/yr in state.
Assuming I get into a school I am currently wait listed at here is how i see the permutations of choice.
UNC w/ no residency and no FAFSA aid
45 x 3 = 135k - 30k(scholly) = 110k - 80k(banked) = 20k DEBT
UNC w/ 1 year no residency and no FAFSA aid
45 x 1 = 45 + (35 x 2 = 70) = 105k - 30k(scholly) = 75k - 80k(banked) = 5k PROFIT
vs
Emory/W&M/ND/any school that is 60k/yr
60 x 3 = 180 - 80 = 100k DEBT
Knowing this - is the placement of a marginally national school like Emory/ND/William and Mary worth taking on debt for big law prospects? All three seem negligibly different for placement in big law markets than UNC.
I want to do big law/mid law.
Currently, I have a 10k/yr scholly to UNC and am an out of state resident. I am WL at William and Mary(out of state), Emory, and Notre Dame
I have 80k in the bank for school and UNC is 45k/yr out of state and 35k/yr in state.
Assuming I get into a school I am currently wait listed at here is how i see the permutations of choice.
UNC w/ no residency and no FAFSA aid
45 x 3 = 135k - 30k(scholly) = 110k - 80k(banked) = 20k DEBT
UNC w/ 1 year no residency and no FAFSA aid
45 x 1 = 45 + (35 x 2 = 70) = 105k - 30k(scholly) = 75k - 80k(banked) = 5k PROFIT
vs
Emory/W&M/ND/any school that is 60k/yr
60 x 3 = 180 - 80 = 100k DEBT
Knowing this - is the placement of a marginally national school like Emory/ND/William and Mary worth taking on debt for big law prospects? All three seem negligibly different for placement in big law markets than UNC.
Last edited by Matteliszt on Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- ggocat

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Re: Decision time debt v no debt
"aid" = loans.Matteliszt wrote: At the ASD at UNC they told us we could expect about 20k/yr from the FAFSA in terms of aid.
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UNC w/ 1year no residency and FAFSA for 2 years (I missed deadline for this year as I was a dependent and didnt think I would qualify)
45 x 1 = 45 + (35 x 2 = 70) = 105k - 30k (scholly) = 75k - 60k(FAFSA) = 15k - 80k = 65k PROFIT
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So anything between no FAFSA and 20k in FAFSA means I come out of law school with NO DEBT if i gain residency.
and with 80K in the bank, you probably will only get $12K unsubsidized.
- Matteliszt

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Re: Decision time debt v no debt
Thank you. Let me edit the math.
*edit* so we do we assume 12k w/ paying it back?
*edit* so we do we assume 12k w/ paying it back?
- ggocat

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Re: Decision time debt v no debt
Yeah, the $12K would be unsubsidized stafford loan, which I think you can qualify for even with savings. Interest accumulates while you are in school, so it's best not to take out unless you have to.Matteliszt wrote:Thank you. Let me edit the math.
*edit* so we do we assume 12k w/ paying it back?
edit: and I meant $12k/year = $36k.
Last edited by ggocat on Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- Matteliszt

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Re: Decision time debt v no debt
I edited the fafsa aid out to simplify the math, essentially its 5k debt v 100k debt for marginally better placement.
I think the choice is easy.
I think the choice is easy.
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- ggocat

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Re: Decision time debt v no debt
I think so, too.Matteliszt wrote:I think the choice is easy.
- Matteliszt

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Re: Decision time debt v no debt
does that mean discussions over?/thread
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Re: Decision time debt v no debt
Go to UNC. Without a doubt. Be a Tar Heel!
- cigrainger

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Re: Decision time debt v no debt
Your math is wrong on the bit about 1 year non-residency at UNC. You'd be 5k in debt still. Your math says 45k+70k = 105k. Should be 115k. Not sure that makes any difference to the decision, just thought I'd point it out.
- Matteliszt

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Re: Decision time debt v no debt
ty. Not a huge factor but still nice to know. Will edit later.
- underachiever

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+1gdane5 wrote:Go to UNC. Without a doubt. Be a Tar Heel!
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