TLS, please help me decide! UofA vs. Penn Forum

[RonArtest]

UPDATE: Through some certain......ummmm......errrrr......backchannels, I received the opinion of a certain influential AZ politician that went to U of A. He thinks going to U of A isn't such a bad idea. Of course, he is admittedly biased. WOULD THIS CHANGE ANYONE'S OPINION?

No.

For the love of christ, close this thread already.

[sanpiero]

UPDATE: Through some certain......ummmm......errrrr......backchannels, I received the opinion of a certain influential AZ politician that went to U of A. He thinks going to U of A isn't such a bad idea. Of course, he is admittedly biased. WOULD THIS CHANGE ANYONE'S OPINION?

Honestly, I can't see how you can go wrong with either choice. I'd say, go wherever you want to spend the next three years. If you don't want to move so far away from home and don't want to live in Philly in particular, don't go to Penn. You are not going to hamper your professional or political career in the state of AZ by attending the best law school in the state. As an added bonus, you will have next to no debt upon graduating and you will have three years to make even more connections in the state through clinics, law review, clerkships, etc. If you aren't obsessive about prestige, don't particularly want to move across the country, and aren't especially thrilled about living in Philly, I'd vote for U of A. The reason I previously suggested otherwise is that you made it seem you were pretty thrilled about Penn.

[Na_Swatch]

How in the world are your only options going to UofA or a Half-Scholly to UPenn?? Like did you just throw darts at a roulette board when you were picking schools to apply to?

You should have a ton of stuff mixed in beyond Chicago or NYU, or perhaps close to full rides in the T12~T25 section... seriously confused here as why your only full ride ur considering is UofA.

Also, with your numbers, TCR: Retake LSAT, go to HYS next year

[sundevil77]

How in the world are your only options going to UofA or a Half-Scholly to UPenn?? Like did you just throw darts at a roulette board when you were picking schools to apply to?

You should have a ton of stuff mixed in beyond Chicago or NYU, or perhaps close to full rides in the T12~T25 section... seriously confused here as why your only full ride ur considering is UofA.

Also, with your numbers, TCR: Retake LSAT, go to HYS next year

I did have other stuff mixed in, but I visited Penn and they basically came through with a miracle scholarship. Way better than anything else I have.

[Na_Swatch]

How in the world are your only options going to UofA or a Half-Scholly to UPenn?? Like did you just throw darts at a roulette board when you were picking schools to apply to?

You should have a ton of stuff mixed in beyond Chicago or NYU, or perhaps close to full rides in the T12~T25 section... seriously confused here as why your only full ride ur considering is UofA.

Also, with your numbers, TCR: Retake LSAT, go to HYS next year

I did have other stuff mixed in, but I visited Penn and they basically came through with a miracle scholarship. Way better than anything else I have.

You have your answer

[Lermontov]

If you really want to stick around in AZ, I'd say you can't go wrong either way. Take it with whatever salt you want, because I am still wanting a money increase from Penn, but Arizona isn't like one of these Northeast states that is clogged with law schools. It's like being a lawyer in Montana (I'm looking at you Judge Sidney Thomas) - coming from Univ. of Montana gives you a perfectly good shot.

As far as I can tell, there's no bias against 'zona or ASU because so many people are familiar with them, including law firms. It won't be a help to you necessarily, but it won't hurt you either, especially staying in state.

[Sauer Grapes]

I reread this twice thinking that you just were confused and kept referring to Penn State as Penn because you didn't know better. But you REALLY mean PENN ... there is no question, go to Penn.

This +180. I kept laughing to myself, thinking that he doesn't even know Penn and Penn State are *slightly* (hugely) different.

No question here, go to Penn.

[RVP11]

If you really want to stick around in AZ, I'd say you can't go wrong either way. Take it with whatever salt you want, because I am still wanting a money increase from Penn, but Arizona isn't like one of these Northeast states that is clogged with law schools. It's like being a lawyer in Montana (I'm looking at you Judge Sidney Thomas) - coming from Univ. of Montana gives you a perfectly good shot.

As far as I can tell, there's no bias against 'zona or ASU because so many people are familiar with them, including law firms. It won't be a help to you necessarily, but it won't hurt you either, especially staying in state.

If OP wants to work in a big firm, yes UofA will "hurt" him in that he'll have a much smaller chance at doing that from there than he will from Penn.

And though Arizona isn't "clogged" with law schools (debatable now that they have three) it's also not exactly full of jobs.

[Lermontov]

If you really want to stick around in AZ, I'd say you can't go wrong either way. Take it with whatever salt you want, because I am still wanting a money increase from Penn, but Arizona isn't like one of these Northeast states that is clogged with law schools. It's like being a lawyer in Montana (I'm looking at you Judge Sidney Thomas) - coming from Univ. of Montana gives you a perfectly good shot.

As far as I can tell, there's no bias against 'zona or ASU because so many people are familiar with them, including law firms. It won't be a help to you necessarily, but it won't hurt you either, especially staying in state.

If OP wants to work in a big firm, yes UofA will "hurt" him in that he'll have a much smaller chance at doing that from there than he will from Penn.

And though Arizona isn't "clogged" with law schools (debatable now that they have three) it's also not exactly full of jobs.

Could well be true, but I got the impression he was looking at politic-type things as much as firm related issues, and staying in-state would help build those relationships better.

I think I started off saying I consider it a wash, so if there's any particularly strong concerns one way or the other I could certainly see that swaying my thinking.

[jacko]

I say go to Penn. Maybe with a little bit different schools I would advise the cheaper option, like if you wanted Chicago and went with UIUC, or wanted Seattle or Portland and went to UW, but in this case I really don't think that U of A is good enough.

[beesknees]

I was going to read the OP because I thought the decision might lie in the details if it was full ride to U of A vs Penn sticker (though I admit it would still probably be Penn, but its reasonable to pause with that much debt on the line). But then I see you got a half scholly at Penn. This isn't even a question. You like the school, it will open way more doors for you AND you got money.

Penn. /thread

[hoopsguy6]

Blatant "I got a big scholly at Penn" trolling.

+1

[JCougar]

UPDATE: Through some certain......ummmm......errrrr......backchannels, I received the opinion of a certain influential AZ politician that went to U of A. He thinks going to U of A isn't such a bad idea. Of course, he is admittedly biased. WOULD THIS CHANGE ANYONE'S OPINION?

I would have leaned U of A simply for the sake of politics, but if you went to undergrad there, as somebody already mentioned, you should be good. U of A would be a better choice if you were certain you would finish Order of the Coif, but there's definitely no certainty of that at any school. U of A would be a huge gamble.

[clashjones87]

If you really want to stick around in AZ, I'd say you can't go wrong either way. Take it with whatever salt you want, because I am still wanting a money increase from Penn, but Arizona isn't like one of these Northeast states that is clogged with law schools. It's like being a lawyer in Montana (I'm looking at you Judge Sidney Thomas) - coming from Univ. of Montana gives you a perfectly good shot.

As far as I can tell, there's no bias against 'zona or ASU because so many people are familiar with them, including law firms. It won't be a help to you necessarily, but it won't hurt you either, especially staying in state.

If OP wants to work in a big firm, yes UofA will "hurt" him in that he'll have a much smaller chance at doing that from there than he will from Penn.

And though Arizona isn't "clogged" with law schools (debatable now that they have three) it's also not exactly full of jobs.

Could well be true, but I got the impression he was looking at politic-type things as much as firm related issues, and staying in-state would help build those relationships better.

I think I started off saying I consider it a wash, so if there's any particularly strong concerns one way or the other I could certainly see that swaying my thinking.

wut? have you looked at what schools he hires clerks from? montana has 2 or 3 in the past 10 or so years.

[dr123]

Why did you bump a three year old thread?

[clashjones87]

Why did you bump a three year old thread?

because someone could detrimentally rely on this false info.

[dr123]

Why did you bump a three year old thread?

because someone could detrimentally rely on this false info.

I dont think a lot of people are looking at three year old threads about Arizona and Penn for info on UMontana.

[Hutz_and_Goodman]

This would be a question if you received $75k from Penn. But if you're CoA for Penn is 75k this is a no-brainer.

[Monochromatic Oeuvre]

Um, this person already graduated from wherever they went to school. So, yeah.

[jbagelboy]

Um, this person already graduated from wherever they went to school. So, yeah.

Don't you know that TLS has the power to retroactively change someone's 3 year old law school decision?

[clashjones87]

Um, this person already graduated from wherever they went to school. So, yeah.

I was under the impression that people other than the OP could rely on this publicly available information. My bad.

[beardown_tho]

It is pretty funny to bump a "where should I go thread" from a poster who likely went to school and graduated already

[Motivator9]

UPDATE: Through some certain......ummmm......errrrr......backchannels, I received the opinion of a certain influential AZ politician that went to U of A. He thinks going to U of A isn't such a bad idea. Of course, he is admittedly biased. WOULD THIS CHANGE ANYONE'S OPINION?

No.

Fair enough.

Lol haha I like Penn here. More opportunities on the East Coast. Good luck

[sinfiery]

Let's hope OP comes and provides a 3 year update

[lawschoolwoohoo]

Go to Penn. Enjoy great job prospects and $.