In-state and total 3 year amounts!msbeautifulbasham wrote:Are those numbers for in-state tuition or OOS tuition?
Thanks! I agree it's also pretty clear, but I psyched myself out a bit...it's definitely looking like Arizona.sluguy14 wrote:The common thought on these forums seems to be that Arizona and Arizona State are largely interchangeable, with maybe a slight edge given to Arizona in terms of prestige and portability. And since Arizona is giving you more money, I'd say the choice is pretty clear.
Yeah, ASU's steady progression is what is making me a bit hesitant. I want those U.S. News rankings. I know it's marginal, but if UofA seems to be moving down, while ASU is moving up, I'd be a bit concerned. I'd rather be in an up and coming than at a fallen school.quickquestionthanks wrote:I would go to Arizona. I didn't even apply, bc I don't like Tucson. But I have to imagine it is more respected in an academic/scholarly realm. The students have an edge LSAT wise, so it's possible that competition will be more fierce. The other drawback is ASU seems to be on the move up, and perhaps U of A on the way down. But I don't think that changes the outlook in the short run for clerkships.
cLams wrote:Yeah, ASU's steady progression is what is making me a bit hesitant. I want those U.S. News rankings. I know it's marginal, but if UofA seems to be moving down, while ASU is moving up, I'd be a bit concerned. I'd rather be in an up and coming than at a fallen school.quickquestionthanks wrote:I would go to Arizona. I didn't even apply, bc I don't like Tucson. But I have to imagine it is more respected in an academic/scholarly realm. The students have an edge LSAT wise, so it's possible that competition will be more fierce. The other drawback is ASU seems to be on the move up, and perhaps U of A on the way down. But I don't think that changes the outlook in the short run for clerkships.
I almost suggested you wait for the '11 rankings to come out before deciding, but then decided that it would be sad sad sad to say that. But it's not a minor point...in addition to you getting a higher offer at U of A, I've seen a number of people on these boards get into U of A and out of ASU. 
USN trends shouldn't affect your decisionmaking because they don't affect employers' short term preferences.cLams wrote:Yeah, ASU's steady progression is what is making me a bit hesitant. I want those U.S. News rankings. I know it's marginal, but if UofA seems to be moving down, while ASU is moving up, I'd be a bit concerned. I'd rather be in an up and coming than at a fallen school.quickquestionthanks wrote:I would go to Arizona. I didn't even apply, bc I don't like Tucson. But I have to imagine it is more respected in an academic/scholarly realm. The students have an edge LSAT wise, so it's possible that competition will be more fierce. The other drawback is ASU seems to be on the move up, and perhaps U of A on the way down. But I don't think that changes the outlook in the short run for clerkships.
From what I have read, my experience, and the experiences of my friends, it actually seems like UA was the easier one to get into/ get money from.Charles Barkley wrote:I got into U of A (with money), rejected at ASU
Even with higher median LSAT, U of A had a higher acceptance rate. I have to imagine that is due to the "big city" draw of Phoenix as opposed to the armpit stench of Tucson. But still, you would think that an individual would have a better chance at ASU...unless of course they're up to something. (please be up to letting me in...)msbeautifulbasham wrote:From what I have read, my experience, and the experiences of my friends, it actually seems like UA was the easier one to get into/ get money from.Charles Barkley wrote:I got into U of A (with money), rejected at ASU
You're right. I need to stop thinking about those damn rankings! I just found the judicial clerkship stats on both schools, and that alone may have reconvinced me to go to UA.JSUVA2012 wrote:USN trends shouldn't affect your decisionmaking because they don't affect employers' short term preferences.cLams wrote:Yeah, ASU's steady progression is what is making me a bit hesitant. I want those U.S. News rankings. I know it's marginal, but if UofA seems to be moving down, while ASU is moving up, I'd be a bit concerned. I'd rather be in an up and coming than at a fallen school.quickquestionthanks wrote:I would go to Arizona. I didn't even apply, bc I don't like Tucson. But I have to imagine it is more respected in an academic/scholarly realm. The students have an edge LSAT wise, so it's possible that competition will be more fierce. The other drawback is ASU seems to be on the move up, and perhaps U of A on the way down. But I don't think that changes the outlook in the short run for clerkships.
Is UA still a contender for you?Charles Barkley wrote:I got into U of A (with money), rejected at ASU
I'd be curious to see how many in-state applicants both schools take? I'm sure that would affect their selectivity. I've heard somewhere that UA is around 65% in-state, including those who have a strong affiliation with AZ.quickquestionthanks wrote:Even with higher median LSAT, U of A had a higher acceptance rate. I have to imagine that is due to the "big city" draw of Phoenix as opposed to the armpit stench of Tucson. But still, you would think that an individual would have a better chance at ASU...unless of course they're up to something. (please be up to letting me in...)msbeautifulbasham wrote:From what I have read, my experience, and the experiences of my friends, it actually seems like UA was the easier one to get into/ get money from.Charles Barkley wrote:I got into U of A (with money), rejected at ASU
Haha, thankfully I don't like chicks! I can attest for the attractive girls at ASU though. It's insane.darknightbegins wrote:Chicks at ASU are hotter. Other than that I doubt there is any real difference. Go to which ever one saves you the most money.
only been there once, but +1cLams wrote:Haha, thankfully I don't like chicks! I can attest for the attractive girls at ASU though. It's insane.darknightbegins wrote:Chicks at ASU are hotter. Other than that I doubt there is any real difference. Go to which ever one saves you the most money.
I gotta jump in on this. U of A chicks are just as hot, and are more likely to be interested in a law student. ASU chicks like dudes with barbed wire tattoos. Wildcats are just a tad brighter, and a tad less shallow.cLams wrote:Haha, thankfully I don't like chicks! I can attest for the attractive girls at ASU though. It's insane.darknightbegins wrote:Chicks at ASU are hotter. Other than that I doubt there is any real difference. Go to which ever one saves you the most money.
I also think UA girls are hotter, but it depends what you dig I guess. To broadly sterotype, UA Girls: Tall, at least semi-intelligent brunettes with attractive faces and nice bodies. ASU girls: petite, tan, bleach blondes, with faces that become less attractive as you get closer. Again, just a MAJOR stereotype. There are plenty of intelligent, non-fake beauties at ASU as well, but you are more likely to find the former.quickquestionthanks wrote:I gotta jump in on this. U of A chicks are just as hot, and are more likely to be interested in a law student. ASU chicks like dudes with barbed wire tattoos. Wildcats are just a tad brighter, and a tad less shallow.cLams wrote:Haha, thankfully I don't like chicks! I can attest for the attractive girls at ASU though. It's insane.darknightbegins wrote:Chicks at ASU are hotter. Other than that I doubt there is any real difference. Go to which ever one saves you the most money.
cLams wrote:UA Girls: Tall, at least semi-intelligent brunettes with attractive faces and nice bodies. ASU girls: petite, tan, bleach blondes, with faces that become less attractive as you get closer.
