Would you go to Cornell at sticker? Forum

[irishman86]

Cornell (and Georgetown) seem to get a lot of hate on these boards. I guess it's because they have the worst job prospects out of the top 14. Would you pay sticker at Cornell?

[thinkbig]

Cornell (and Georgetown) seem to get a lot of hate on these boards. I guess it's because they have the worst job prospects out of the top 14. Would you pay sticker at Cornell?

Absolutely.

[Flanker1067]

I think most people are comparing this option to their current choices....

[ppa840]

Yes if it is the only t14 school you have been accepted to

[thinkbig]

I think most people are comparing this option to their current choices....

Sure, people approach this question with their own perspectives shaped by their own current options. But it is still an objective question and a matter of opinion, and he is asking for people's opinions.

[CyLaw]

I think most people are comparing this option to their current choices....

Sure, people approach this question with their own perspectives shaped by their own current options. But it is still an objective question and a matter of opinion, and he is asking for people's opinions.

I don't think something can be objective and a matter of opinion.

That said. This of course depends on what you want and what your options are.

I would pay sticker to Cornell as I want PI and the LRAP makes loans not matter above a certain point, so the 210k would not phase me. If there was no LRAP, than no way.

[Flanker1067]

I think most people are comparing this option to their current choices....

Sure, people approach this question with their own perspectives shaped by their own current options. But it is still an objective question and a matter of opinion, and he is asking for people's opinions.

Your point?

I am just making the observation about how people are approaching this question. The OP cannot expect this to tell him/her anything more then whether the population on TLS right now would do it (not to be confused with a recommendation that he/she SHOULD do it).

[09042014]

Cornell (and Georgetown) seem to get a lot of hate on these boards. I guess it's because they have the worst job prospects out of the top 14. Would you pay sticker at Cornell?

Cornell doesn't have worse prospects than Michigan, Northwestern, Uva, Duke, Boalt, or Penn.

[Flanker1067]

I think most people are comparing this option to their current choices....

Sure, people approach this question with their own perspectives shaped by their own current options. But it is still an objective question and a matter of opinion, and he is asking for people's opinions.

I don't think something can be objective and a matter of opinion.

That said. This of course depends on what you want and what your options are.

I would pay sticker to Cornell as I want PI and the LRAP makes loans not matter above a certain point, so the 210k would not phase me. If there was no LRAP, than no way.

Yea, also, it is not an "objective question" at all. It clearly says "would YOU", making it subjective.

[Borhas]

I guess it's because they have the worst job prospects out of the top 14.

also, suicides
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/03/20/new.yo ... es/?hpt=T2
(6 in one year!?)

but yeah I'd go there, sure.

[thinkbig]

I think most people are comparing this option to their current choices....

Sure, people approach this question with their own perspectives shaped by their own current options. But it is still an objective question and a matter of opinion, and he is asking for people's opinions.

Your point?

I am just making the observation about how people are approaching this question. The OP cannot expect this to tell him anything more then whether the population on TLS right now would do it (not to be confused with a recommendation that he/she SHOULD do it).

The question was whether YOU would go to Cornell at sticker. I would. Someone who got into Harvard might not. In sum, I agree with everything you said.

[irishman86]

Cornell (and Georgetown) seem to get a lot of hate on these boards. I guess it's because they have the worst job prospects out of the top 14. Would you pay sticker at Cornell?

Cornell doesn't have worse prospects than Michigan, Northwestern, Uva, Duke, Boalt, or Penn.

According to recent data it does. It also places less into clerkships than some of those schools.

[billyez]

If I've interpreted Flanker's post correctly, I concur with it. As someone who signed onto UVA at sticker price and with no regrets, I'd note that this kind of decision really depends on the person. Some of the people who are voting in this poll might not fully understand what going to Cornell really entails. That's not a knock on them, it's just that...until you're in the thick of it, making these decisions, I'm not sure you have the full spectrum of experience necessary to make a recommendation.

I would have gone to Cornell sticker myself. Until I was accepted to UVA, it was my top choice. But with the price involved there, that's certainly not an easy decision.

[thinkbig]

I think most people are comparing this option to their current choices....

Sure, people approach this question with their own perspectives shaped by their own current options. But it is still an objective question and a matter of opinion, and he is asking for people's opinions.

I don't think something can be objective and a matter of opinion.

That said. This of course depends on what you want and what your options are.

I would pay sticker to Cornell as I want PI and the LRAP makes loans not matter above a certain point, so the 210k would not phase me. If there was no LRAP, than no way.

Yea, also, it is not an "objective question" at all. It clearly says "would YOU", making it subjective.

I think an assumption of any question like this is that there is a right answer. Maybe objective was the wrong word according to your definition. Can something can be objective and also a matter of opinion? Heh. Let's not get into a debate about semantics. Anyway, back to the topic. Yeah, go to Cornell.

[09042014]

Cornell (and Georgetown) seem to get a lot of hate on these boards. I guess it's because they have the worst job prospects out of the top 14. Would you pay sticker at Cornell?

Cornell doesn't have worse prospects than Michigan, Northwestern, Uva, Duke, Boalt, or Penn.

According to recent data it does. It also places less into clerkships than some of those schools.

It was only 2009 when it took a hit. It was because New York City took a massive hit in 2009. Class of 09 data won't be a good representation of what class of 13 will be facing at OCI.

That 2009 data also shows Northwestern being better than UChi. That just isn't true.

[miamiman]

No

[irishman86]

It was only 2009 when it took a hit. It was because New York City took a massive hit in 2009. Class of 09 data won't be a good representation of what class of 13 will be facing at OCI.

That 2009 data also shows Northwestern being better than UChi. That just isn't true.

I don't understand why you are posting that information to prove your point as that doesn't take into account of clerkships. Cornell does not place better than Harvard.

[Flanker1067]

Oh boy, I will help you out here D.Fox.

Irishman, read his first post, does he include Harvard?

Also, I see your point, NLJ250 isn't everything. That being said, Cornell does do pretty well all around.

[irishman86]

Oh boy, I will help you out here D.Fox.

Irishman, read his first post, does he include Harvard?

According to that data, it shows Cornell placing more into biglaw than Harvard. He's using NLJ placement statistics only to argue his point, without taking into account of clerkships.

[Flanker1067]

See above edit ^^^^

[thinkbig]

That 2009 data also shows Northwestern being better than UChi. That just isn't true.

By some measures NU might be "better" than UC.

[calicocat]

Cornell (and Georgetown) seem to get a lot of hate on these boards. I guess it's because they have the worst job prospects out of the top 14. Would you pay sticker at Cornell?

Cornell doesn't have worse prospects than Michigan, Northwestern, Uva, Duke, Boalt, or Penn.

Thanks DF, thanks..

<-----will be paying sticker at Cornell

[CyLaw]

I don't understand why you are posting that information to prove your point as that doesn't take into account of clerkships. Cornell does not place better than Harvard.

Clerkships are likely due to self selection.

[A'nold]

Yes, but my numbers barely got me into a t50 (which I am not attending) so my opinion is a little skewed.

[fortissimo]

Clerkships are likely due to self selection.

As opposed to big law not being self-selection...? Clerkships are by far the most prestigious jobs you can get straight out of law school. They require the highest grades (usually top 15%) plus recommendations. They also open up doors for the DOJ and other prestigious federal jobs, which require clerkships to be considered as a serious applicant.

A primary reason why you don't see people considering clerkships is because they don't have the grades to make the cut. If I were top 15% I would definitely make clerkships my number one choice for post-graduate employment.