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"Although applicants often describe being granted admission to YLS something akin to “magic” or “sheer luck,” Yale Law has been remarkably transparent about how it conducts its selection process. However, transparency only goes so far in quelling the anxiety of applicants; the process itself is admittedly full of subjective determinations and is a bit of a “black box.”
Yale’s process differs significantly from that of many other top schools, particularly in its commitment to have most admission decisions made by the faculty and its overt use of holistic numerical scoring. All applicants are first reviewed by Dean of Admissions, Asha Rangappa. From the full pool of applications, about 50-80 “presumptive admits” are given Dean Rangappa’s stamp of approval and are sent on for final review by the Faculty Admissions Committee chair (essentially a "free ride" to admission). The rest of the hopefuls are divided into two groups, with some 800-1,000 applications selected for faculty review (and the others set aside as likely rejections).
Applications selected for faculty review are read by three randomly chosen faculty members, who score each application on a scale from 2 to 4. Each of the three readers is “blind” to the assessment scores assigned by his or her peers, and faculty members are not given any specific instructions as to how to weigh specific aspects of an application – they are given free reign to consider whatever factors they think will build an interesting class of students. Each of the first two faculty readers receives approximately 50 applications, and it has been reported that faculty are given instructions to assign a 4 to the top quarter, 3 to the second quarter, and 2 to the bottom half. [If two faculty members give consecutive 2s, an applicant is rejected; the remaining files go on to a third member of the faculty, who scores 2-4 equally.] A cumulative score of 12 is guaranteed admission, and most who score an 11 are admitted as well. A number of current students report having had an awkward moment or two when a professor has matched their application to a “real” name and face that roams the hallways!
Due to the unique nature of Yale’s application review process, most applications are “under review” for longer than they might be at other schools. Even “presumptive admits” may hear back in 6-8 weeks at the earliest; some applications may not result in a final answer for many months. Yale is notorious for releasing many admissions decisions in mid-late April. However, it should be noted that applying earlier in the cycle does not provide any boost to an applicant’s chances of being admitted; while the school does give offers of admission on a rolling basis, it does not fill the class until after having read all applications submitted by February 15th."
Yale’s process differs significantly from that of many other top schools, particularly in its commitment to have most admission decisions made by the faculty and its overt use of holistic numerical scoring. All applicants are first reviewed by Dean of Admissions, Asha Rangappa. From the full pool of applications, about 50-80 “presumptive admits” are given Dean Rangappa’s stamp of approval and are sent on for final review by the Faculty Admissions Committee chair (essentially a "free ride" to admission). The rest of the hopefuls are divided into two groups, with some 800-1,000 applications selected for faculty review (and the others set aside as likely rejections).
Applications selected for faculty review are read by three randomly chosen faculty members, who score each application on a scale from 2 to 4. Each of the three readers is “blind” to the assessment scores assigned by his or her peers, and faculty members are not given any specific instructions as to how to weigh specific aspects of an application – they are given free reign to consider whatever factors they think will build an interesting class of students. Each of the first two faculty readers receives approximately 50 applications, and it has been reported that faculty are given instructions to assign a 4 to the top quarter, 3 to the second quarter, and 2 to the bottom half. [If two faculty members give consecutive 2s, an applicant is rejected; the remaining files go on to a third member of the faculty, who scores 2-4 equally.] A cumulative score of 12 is guaranteed admission, and most who score an 11 are admitted as well. A number of current students report having had an awkward moment or two when a professor has matched their application to a “real” name and face that roams the hallways!
Due to the unique nature of Yale’s application review process, most applications are “under review” for longer than they might be at other schools. Even “presumptive admits” may hear back in 6-8 weeks at the earliest; some applications may not result in a final answer for many months. Yale is notorious for releasing many admissions decisions in mid-late April. However, it should be noted that applying earlier in the cycle does not provide any boost to an applicant’s chances of being admitted; while the school does give offers of admission on a rolling basis, it does not fill the class until after having read all applications submitted by February 15th."
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Re: Yale vs Chicago ($)
And by that I obviously mean chicagobooboo wrote:Obvious.
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huh?APimpNamedSlickback wrote: I've heard some things about their admissions process that I'm not quite comfortable with. Yale is so sketchy and creepily secretive about their entire process, I really think she should take the money and run.
She got in, what's it matter about their admissions' PROCESS now?
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people have morals and values, they dont want to attend an institution with sketchy admissions practicesloveistheway wrote:huh?APimpNamedSlickback wrote: I've heard some things about their admissions process that I'm not quite comfortable with. Yale is so sketchy and creepily secretive about their entire process, I really think she should take the money and run.
She got in, what's it matter about their admissions' PROCESS now?
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I'd expect a better troll attempt from you APNS... the new tar is a nice touch, but:
1) Your Post count gives it away
2) Edits make it even more clear something fishy is up
3) Doesn't have just enough plausibility to stir up some TLSers
Your grade is an O, for:

1) Your Post count gives it away
2) Edits make it even more clear something fishy is up
3) Doesn't have just enough plausibility to stir up some TLSers
Your grade is an O, for:

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Exactly the choice is obvious. Chicago. In 2008 Yale wasn't even a top 20 school in NLJ 250 placement.booboo wrote:Obvious.

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Chicago. Yale isn't RIGORous enough with no grades.
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I hate it when people like Nom Sawyer come on here and disparage legitimate questions.
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well i've heard that yale employs some yield protecting practices that are questionable at best.loveistheway wrote:huh?APimpNamedSlickback wrote: I've heard some things about their admissions process that I'm not quite comfortable with. Yale is so sketchy and creepily secretive about their entire process, I really think she should take the money and run.
She got in, what's it matter about their admissions' PROCESS now?
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Uhh, what am I supposed to be seing in this picture?Nom Sawyer wrote:I'd expect a better troll attempt from you APNS... the new tar is a nice touch, but:
1) Your Post count gives it away
2) Edits make it even more clear something fishy is up
3) Doesn't have just enough plausibility to stir up some TLSers
Your grade is an O, for:
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Yellow font.PigNipple wrote:Uhh, what am I supposed to be seing in this picture?Nom Sawyer wrote:I'd expect a better troll attempt from you APNS... the new tar is a nice touch, but:
1) Your Post count gives it away
2) Edits make it even more clear something fishy is up
3) Doesn't have just enough plausibility to stir up some TLSers
Your grade is an O, for:
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Ignore Nom Sawyer, he's a troll.PigNipple wrote: Uhh, what am I supposed to be seing in this picture?
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Waldo broPigNipple wrote:Uhh, what am I supposed to be seing in this picture?Nom Sawyer wrote:I'd expect a better troll attempt from you APNS... the new tar is a nice touch, but:
1) Your Post count gives it away
2) Edits make it even more clear something fishy is up
3) Doesn't have just enough plausibility to stir up some TLSers
Your grade is an O, for:
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What about clerkship placements and subsequent entry to biglaw IF DESIRED?Desert Fox wrote:Exactly the choice is obvious. Chicago. In 2008 Yale wasn't even a top 20 school in NLJ 250 placement.booboo wrote:Obvious.
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Yeah, what about that?
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Prob sucks.Great Satchmo wrote:What about clerkship placements and subsequent entry to biglaw IF DESIRED?Desert Fox wrote:Exactly the choice is obvious. Chicago. In 2008 Yale wasn't even a top 20 school in NLJ 250 placement.booboo wrote:Obvious.
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What ever you do, do NOT add in the 2008 clerkship data unless you want a 200 post war on whether or not doing that is dumb.Great Satchmo wrote:What about clerkship placements and subsequent entry to biglaw IF DESIRED?Desert Fox wrote:Exactly the choice is obvious. Chicago. In 2008 Yale wasn't even a top 20 school in NLJ 250 placement.booboo wrote:Obvious.
Edit: My fault. I initially thought this was the '09 list.
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Yale is the no-brainer pick for academia, even if you got a full ride from Columbia or Chicago.
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did you for serious post a serious response in this thread? i mean seriously....im_blue wrote:Yale is the no-brainer pick for academia, even if you got a full ride from Columbia or Chicago.
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If I had a dollar for everytime you used some form of "serious" nom.....Nom Sawyer wrote:did you for serious post a serious response in this thread? i mean seriously....im_blue wrote:Yale is the no-brainer pick for academia, even if you got a full ride from Columbia or Chicago.
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i seriously switch to several seriouses solely when saying satirecalicocat wrote:If I had a dollar for everytime you used some form of "serious" nom.....Nom Sawyer wrote:did you for serious post a serious response in this thread? i mean seriously....im_blue wrote:Yale is the no-brainer pick for academia, even if you got a full ride from Columbia or Chicago.
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orly? so astute.fortissimo wrote:Flame
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