Take the money and Run; YS - CCNH? Forum

[rayiner]

You didn't respond to my other point. Tech startups might not be the whole field of entrepreneurship, but they're what's hot right now, and they're the area where all the money is being handed out. Money in other sectors is pretty tight. That's why folks from GSB/HBS are flocking into that space right now. So why shouldn't I take the dearth of law graduates in that space as an indicator of the presence of law graduates in entrepreneurship as whole?

first, what makes you think money in other sectors is pretty tight? second, it is more risk-adverse to go straight into a start-up/entrepreneurship, as opposed to starting in law.

if all one needs is a job in start-ups, there are literally like 10 start-ups at this very moment that are hiring harvard grads (there's one company offering the possibility of equity right now. funnily enough, the start up's idea is aimed at cutting biglaw rates and setting price competition among legal vendors. just lol).

Money in other sectors is tight because the credit markets are still tight post recession. Its not "risk-adverse (sic)" to go straight into entrepreneurship. Going into a startup is quite risky. Founding one even more so. There's thousands of startups hiring at any given moment, Harvard or not. Startup equity is worthless for non-founders/early technical employees because you'll get diluted.

[rayiner]

You realize that grades below LP are really rare at Harvard, and can get you kicked out, right? You won't get a job at all if you're not in good academic standing.

that's exactly my point. no one gets LP's, let alone F's. You finish at the bottom of your class (effectively failing) and you still get a P, and still get biglaw

I know you're just trolling at this point, but if there's some rational part of you left and you actually are planning on attending, there are strike-outs from H and people that struggle to get biglaw jobs. If you hit all P's or an LP you could very easily strike out if you don't bid conservatively enough. Moreover, aspies with social dysfunction, comparable to many of the less amiable, awkward traits you've shown on this board, will routinely strike out at any school including Harvard. Watch your back, you're already starting out a step behind.

i've gotten the job for every job interview i've ever had. i've gotten into the school for every school interview i've ever had. my interactions on this board are unlike any i have ever had off of it. i'll be fine

Aren't you a K-JD? So you've never had a real interview?

[emu42]

What's stupid is spending a bunch of money because you have this vague idea that there are unicorn jobs you might potentially want to do (mostly because you've heard they're prestigious).

gotta love this constant theme of "knowing what emu42 is thinking." how in god's name could you possibly know why i want to go into academia, or why i want to do PI? you know next to nothing about me and you're inducing all this garbage that isn't true. this has been going on for the entirety of the thread. "oh, this person likes something that doesn't pay well? must be a prestige whore!"

[emu42]

Aren't you a K-JD? So you've never had a real interview?

no, but i've had difficult-to-get summer jobs

[jbagelboy]

Aren't you a K-JD? So you've never had a real interview?

no, but i've had difficult-to-get summer jobs

Ohhh shit lol. Them prestigious college summer internships

[emu42]

Aren't you a K-JD? So you've never had a real interview?

no, but i've had difficult-to-get summer jobs

Ohhh shit lol. Them prestigious college summer internships

? they're not easy to get. the point is i did well in the interviews

[ManoftheHour]

Aren't you a K-JD? So you've never had a real interview?

no, but i've had difficult-to-get summer jobs

Ohhh shit lol. Them prestigious college summer internships

[worldtraveler]

If you have gotten every job you ever applied for then you haven't applied for many jobs.

[Blessedassurance]

Money in other sectors is tight because the credit markets are still tight post recession. Its not "risk-adverse (sic)" to go straight into entrepreneurship. Going into a startup is quite risky. Founding one even more so. There's thousands of startups hiring at any given moment, Harvard or not. Startup equity is worthless for non-founders/early technical employees because you'll get diluted.

the point i meant was that it was less risky to start in biglaw than to head straight into start-ups/entrepreneurship. you should have been able to deduce the more important error in the statement but good job catching the misspelling like a true biglawyer.

money in other sectors is not tight. you just don't have access to it. that's as useless a statement as saying it's hard to raise significant money as a vc, or that it's hard to get a bank to loan you money to start a business.

[emu42]

If you have gotten every job you ever applied for then you haven't applied for many jobs.

every job i've interviewed for*

[Theopliske8711]

Aren't you a K-JD? So you've never had a real interview?

no, but i've had difficult-to-get summer jobs

I hope for your sake that you don't get outed at HLS.

[emu42]

Aren't you a K-JD? So you've never had a real interview?

no, but i've had difficult-to-get summer jobs

I hope for your sake that you don't get outed at HLS.

what is wrong with that statement? someone told me i'd be terrible at interviews, and i replied that i've succeeded in the interviews i've had. i was never boasting about summer internships. continue taking my posts out of context though

[worldtraveler]

If you have gotten every job you ever applied for then you haven't applied for many jobs.

every job i've interviewed for*

The point remains the same.

[cotiger]

Emu, I think you still, after all this time, might be missing the point of this thread. You're going to H with 100k in loans, which is great for you and no one begrudges it. What people are arguing against (and what you're implicitly arguing for) is that it's also a good idea to go to H with 300k in loans when there are much cheaper, relatively similar options available.

[patogordo]

lol this fucking thread

[rayiner]

Money in other sectors is tight because the credit markets are still tight post recession. Its not "risk-adverse (sic)" to go straight into entrepreneurship. Going into a startup is quite risky. Founding one even more so. There's thousands of startups hiring at any given moment, Harvard or not. Startup equity is worthless for non-founders/early technical employees because you'll get diluted.

the point i meant was that it was less risky to start in biglaw than to head straight into start-ups/entrepreneurship. you should have been able to deduce the more important error in the statement but good job catching the misspelling like a true biglawyer.

money in other sectors is not tight. you just don't have access to it. that's as useless a statement as saying it's hard to raise significant money as a vc, or that it's hard to get a bank to loan you money to start a business.

I interpreted your point in the only way that didn't make it a nullity. Yes, going to a startup first is riskier. And yes, lawyers don't do it. And that's why they have a reputation for risk aversion, which is a huge liability in business circles.

I don't know how you can argue its not harder to raise capital in non-tech circles given the state of the financial markets.

[anyriotgirl]

Emu, I think you still, after all this time, might be missing the point of this thread. You're going to H with 100k in loans, which is great for you and no one begrudges it. What people are arguing against (and what you're implicitly arguing for) is that it's also a good idea to go to H with 300k in loans when there are much cheaper, relatively similar options available.

wait is emu really rich or really poor?

[SnakySalmon]

Aren't you a K-JD? So you've never had a real interview?

no, but i've had difficult-to-get summer jobs

I hope for your sake that you don't get outed at HLS.

what is wrong with that statement? someone told me i'd be terrible at interviews, and i replied that i've succeeded in the interviews i've had. i was never boasting about summer internships. continue taking my posts out of context though

You're the person who said that it was Stanford's loss that they didn't admit you in time to fall in love with them, so I think attributing a certain arrogance to you is justified.

[Cal Trask]

lol this fucking thread

seriously why are people still bothering to argue with this person? just ignore them.

[dresden doll]

i never said this, and don't think any other hls person said this

BA's argument has definitely been along these lines.

[exitoptions]

Aren't you a K-JD? So you've never had a real interview?

no, but i've had difficult-to-get summer jobs

Jumping in here to Lol...

[jbagelboy]

Aren't you a K-JD? So you've never had a real interview?

no, but i've had difficult-to-get summer jobs

Ohhh shit lol. Them prestigious college summer internships

? they're not easy to get. the point is i did well in the interviews

Again you're nearly as pitiable as you are desultory. So now I almost feel bad :/

The point is, you've never had a job interview. You've interviewed to intern for 2 months somewhere as a college student, where you're far more of a burden to the entity than an asset, and clearly there was no implication of rehire (or you would have gone on to take the job). There's a huge difference between an interview for full time work (or summer work with high offer rates for full time employment) and some college internship. We're all adults on here who have done both and can appreciate the difference. It's the first thing my future consulting managing partner told me after my case interviewing as a senior: this isn't some internship, it's a job.

[emu42]

You're the person who said that it was Stanford's loss that they didn't admit you in time to fall in love with them, so I think attributing a certain arrogance to you is justified.

what? hundreds of people on here said that. i got waitlisted by stanford because i didn't deserve to get into stanford. what are you even talking about?

[emu42]

Again you're nearly as pitiable as you are desultory. So now I almost feel bad :/

The point is, you've never had a job interview. You've interviewed to intern for 2 months somewhere as a college student, where you're far more of a burden to the entity than an asset, and clearly there was no implication of rehire (or you would have gone on to take the job). There's a huge difference between an interview for full time work (or summer work with high offer rates for full time employment) and some college internship. We're all adults on here who have done both and can appreciate the difference. It's the first thing my future consulting managing partner told me after my case interviewing as a senior: this isn't some internship, it's a job.

the point is that i'm not socially retarded, as you implied in the post i was responding to. obviously summer internships are not actual jobs

[emu42]

Emu, I think you still, after all this time, might be missing the point of this thread. You're going to H with 100k in loans, which is great for you and no one begrudges it. What people are arguing against (and what you're implicitly arguing for) is that it's also a good idea to go to H with 300k in loans when there are much cheaper, relatively similar options available.

but people are bedgrudging it, because i turned down a full ride to do it. i'm not implicitly arguing for people to take out 300k in loans over a full ride, i'm arguing for people to consider things other than money. 300k is enough to outweigh everything unless you're rich. never said anything to deny that