Class sizes and medians (c/o 2015) Forum

Yukos · Post by **Yukos** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:51 pm

For the schools that have only released 75/25s (looking at you H), when will we definitively find out their medians? When US NEWS rankings come out?

052220151 · Post by **052220151** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:58 pm

VasaVasori wrote:
deputydog wrote:
WanderingPondering wrote:Has anyone tried just calling and asking? Or is that a ridiculous thing to do?
I'm at work and won't be free til after their office is closed. You should call bro, and report back.
Just called, they said 3.8/170.

No change from 2011, bummer.

VasaVasori · Post by **VasaVasori** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:59 pm

HarlandBassett · Post by **HarlandBassett** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:11 pm

VasaVasori wrote: It looks like the GPA median actually went up...

probably due to the relaxation of the WE requirement

Ruxin1 · Post by **Ruxin1** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:37 pm

HarlandBassett wrote:
VasaVasori wrote: It looks like the GPA median actually went up...
probably due to the relaxation of the WE requirement

IIRC they round their gpa

mrjohnsterman · Post by **mrjohnsterman** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:45 pm

Emory finally posted ours:
2015:
253 students
LSAT: 161 - 165 - 166
GPA: 3.35 - 3.70 - 3.82

2014:
246 students
LSAT: 159 - 165 - 166
GPA: 3.40 - 3.70 - 3.79

Other interesting info:
3944 applicants this year vs. 3,951 last year
221/246 students in class of 2014 received a scholarship

TheThriller · Post by **TheThriller** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:59 pm

mrjohnsterman wrote:Emory finally posted ours:
2015:
253 students
LSAT: 161 - 165 - 166
GPA: 3.35 - 3.70 - 3.82

2014:
246 students
LSAT: 159 - 165 - 166
GPA: 3.40 - 3.70 - 3.79

Other interesting info:
3944 applicants this year vs. 3,951 last year
221/246 students in class of 2014 received a scholarship

WOW, Bigger class size, and everything went up except 25th GPA

justonemoregame · Post by **justonemoregame** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:21 pm

I wish we knew the scholarship totals of each entering class. It will be interesting to see if the percentage of people on scholarship at various schools has gone up / will go up, and if their average award has increased.

LSAC's guide shows 553/792 law students at Emory on scholarship (~70%), so if last year's entering class was 221/246, that's a big difference, nearly 20%. I would hope c/o 2015 is similar to that, and I'm guessing Wash. and Lee over-enrolled this year due to people taking scholarship offers, too. LSAC shows 64% of W&L students on grants, c/0 2015 is hopefully way higher.

rayiner · Post by **rayiner** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:07 pm

Ruxin1 wrote:
HarlandBassett wrote:
VasaVasori wrote: It looks like the GPA median actually went up...
probably due to the relaxation of the WE requirement
IIRC they round their gpa

Their 2011 medians were 170/3.75 (you can see on the ABA data), rounded to 170/3.8. Their 2010 medians were 170/3.80, without rounding. So the median GPA went either up or stayed exactly the same.

WanderingPondering · Post by **WanderingPondering** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:08 pm

Where is the spreadsheet with all the medians listed? Any way to link it to the OP?

ajax · Post by **ajax** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:21 pm

WanderingPondering wrote:Where is the spreadsheet with all the medians listed? Any way to link it to the OP?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... nUnc#gid=0

WanderingPondering · Post by **WanderingPondering** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:38 pm

ajax wrote:
WanderingPondering wrote:Where is the spreadsheet with all the medians listed? Any way to link it to the OP?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... nUnc#gid=0

Thanks!

danquayle · Post by **danquayle** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:23 pm

WanderingPondering wrote:
ajax wrote:
WanderingPondering wrote:Where is the spreadsheet with all the medians listed? Any way to link it to the OP?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... nUnc#gid=0
Thanks!

I know that the declines are a good thing and all, but it still seems counter intuitive to see them in green and increases in red. When I first looked at it, I was disappointed by all the green until I realized the transposition.

Paul Campos · Post by **Paul Campos** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:10 am

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Bildungsroman · Post by **Bildungsroman** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:46 am

Are we ever going to find out LSAT and GPA numbers for Rutgers-Camden?

20130312 · Post by **20130312** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:14 am

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:36 pm

Cross posting this. Donno if OP is gonna come back....

Wisc

162 (same)
3.61 (-.06)
215 (-27)

http://www.law.wisc.edu/prospective/stats.html

BVest · Post by **BVest** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:46 am

Southern Methodist:

Code: Select all

Start Fall  2012   2011  CHANGE
FULL TIME			
N Students   154    158     -4
Med GPA     3.74   3.72   0.02
Med LSAT     164    165     -1
Avg Age       23     23      0

PART TIME		
N Students    64     73     -9
Med GPA     3.49   3.57  -0.08
Med LSAT     160    160      0
Avg Age       27     29     -2

Source: SMU 2012-2013 Yield Brochure

ajr · Post by **ajr** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:17 am

BVest wrote:Southern Methodist:

Code: Select all

Start Fall  2012   2011  CHANGE
FULL TIME			
N Students   154    158     -4
Med GPA     3.74   3.72   0.02
Med LSAT     164    165     -1
Avg Age       23     23      0

PART TIME		
N Students    64     73     -9
Med GPA     3.49   3.57  -0.08
Med LSAT     160    160      0
Avg Age       27     29     -2

Source: SMU 2012-2013 Yield Brochure

Wow SMU fulltime had a 165 median LSAT in 2011? No way!

BVest · Post by **BVest** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:30 am

ajr wrote: Wow SMU fulltime had a 165 median LSAT in 2011? No way!

Surprised me too. http://www.law.smu.edu/JDFAQ

geary86 · Post by **geary86** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:55 am

BVest wrote:
ajr wrote: Wow SMU fulltime had a 165 median LSAT in 2011? No way!
Surprised me too. http://www.law.smu.edu/JDFAQ

those numbers are in line with Emory and BC.... WOW

bizchick05 · Post by **bizchick05** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:55 am

This is not surprising considering this law school is the ONLY reputable option for those who have to stay in Dallas.

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:50 pm

bizchick05 wrote:This is not surprising considering this law school is the ONLY reputable option for those who have to stay in Dallas.

Doesnt really suprise me either, considering their over all LSAT median is typically 163.

S/H/B all get shafted in the rankings because of their reputation scores.

meyersa15 · Post by **meyersa15** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:56 am

Do you guys think that medians will continue to fall this cycle, as well?

ajax · Post by **ajax** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:44 am

meyersa15 wrote:Do you guys think that medians will continue to fall this cycle, as well?

Depends on if applications continue to decline. For info on that:

http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/ ... ummary.asp

http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/ ... stered.asp

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