2013 Rankings Forum

[071816]

so.frustrated... ASU is my UG and i did not apply even as a safety, because it was ranked 40ish and I would have rather taken a year off than not go to a better ranked school. now I am only in at BU which WAS 22 and is now tied with ASU for 26 but costs way more to attend... so.ironic.and.ridiculous.

Choosing BU over ASU if you want to be in AZ is ridiculous. Regretting not applying to ASU because of the 2013 rankings is ridiculous.

you're right, i really was eager to get out of ASU/Arizona so it doesn't make sense for me to care. and BU is still ranked better for IP. just expressing frustration. and more pissed that my parents called me this morning and were all "wahhh we told you to apply to ASU"

specialty rankings don't mean shit and your parents are ignorant. however, asu is the better choice for arizona (regardless of these stupid rankings).

[SCOTUS40]

Detailed and employment stats on Temple please.

[tennisking88]

specialty rankings don't mean shit.

esp. for IP

[josh43299]

specialty rankings don't mean shit.

esp. for IP

Anti U of New Hampshire trolling...

[abbottsbar]

I'm sure those of you who have access are tired of requests, but if anyone could post the detailed stats for Richmond it would be greatly appreciated.

[moneybagsphd]

so.frustrated... ASU is my UG and i did not apply even as a safety, because it was ranked 40ish and I would have rather taken a year off than not go to a better ranked school. now I am only in at BU which WAS 22 and is now tied with ASU for 26 but costs way more to attend... so.ironic.and.ridiculous.

Choosing BU over ASU if you want to be in AZ is ridiculous. Regretting not applying to ASU because of the 2013 rankings is ridiculous.

you're right, i really was eager to get out of ASU/Arizona so it doesn't make sense for me to care. and BU is still ranked better for IP. just expressing frustration. and more pissed that my parents called me this morning and were all "wahhh we told you to apply to ASU"

Nobody actually believes ASU is as good as BU or better than BC, Davis, etc... except for your parents.

[tennisking88]

I'm sure those of you who have access are tired of requests, but if anyone could post the detailed stats for Richmond it would be greatly appreciated.

Is there something in the US News access pass that isn't publicly available on schools' websites?

[UtilityMonster]

Holy shit. The universe is changing.

YS | HCCN | PBV | MD | GC

Texas and Vanderbilt are dwarf planets, Yale is the sun haha

Yale and Stanford are binary stars.

[desertlaw]

so.frustrated... ASU is my UG and i did not apply even as a safety, because it was ranked 40ish and I would have rather taken a year off than not go to a better ranked school. now I am only in at BU which WAS 22 and is now tied with ASU for 26 but costs way more to attend... so.ironic.and.ridiculous.

Choosing BU over ASU if you want to be in AZ is ridiculous. Regretting not applying to ASU because of the 2013 rankings is ridiculous.

you're right, i really was eager to get out of ASU/Arizona so it doesn't make sense for me to care. and BU is still ranked better for IP. just expressing frustration. and more pissed that my parents called me this morning and were all "wahhh we told you to apply to ASU"

Nobody actually believes ASU is as good as BU or better than BC, Davis, etc... except for your parents.

Are your parents academics or on TLS or attorneys? Otherwise, why do they know about the ratings? Or did ASU's ranking boost make local news last night in AZ?

[splitbrain]

Hmm Pepperdine broke into the top 50...good for them. I can imagine Loyola being a little jealous but it's not like the shift is really going to result in anything tangible. You'd hope their reaction would be "oh...that's cool" but I'm sure they're breaking out the hookers and blow over there at Pepperdine. (That's what they do to celebrate things there, right?)

Not really surprised at Davis losing ground; #23 felt a little inflated.

Regarding the Harvard/Stanford swap: who gives a crap?

[abbottsbar]

I'm sure those of you who have access are tired of requests, but if anyone could post the detailed stats for Richmond it would be greatly appreciated.

Is there something in the US News access pass that isn't publicly available on schools' websites?

I was honestly curious to see if the numbers matched.

[flem]

I need to talk to the guy who is of counsel across the hall from me who is a Harvard grad about his thoughts about Stanford overtaking Harvard.

I'll report back with his thoughts.

Ask him if he thinks his H degree led to becoming of counsel instead of partner. oh, teh lulz

Update: he said he regrets not going to Stanford instead of that TTT school

[CwallXC322]

USNWR rankings only matter so you can brag to your non-law school friends/family.

"Hey Mom, I go to a Top 25 law school!"
"Yo bro, my law school is ranked 17th in the country." etc.

[Bronck]

Since nothing is more important than these rankings in my life right now, I decided to make a chart listing the raw scores for the t14 this year and last, along with the difference for each school:



Observations:
1. Harvard is the only school that lost points. So TTT.
2. The Georgetown Dean deserves a big bonus.
3. The new tiers are clearly Y | SHCCN | BVPM | DNGC.
4. Chicago is catching Columbia - one more year of Rubensteins should do it.

Lol I can't wait until the rubys dry up then chicago can have a nice drop

[SpaceDawg]

Also lol at Washington and Lee. USNWR is driving drunk.

Not really. W&L has been in the top 25 for most of the last decade.

[Antilles Haven]

Also lol at Washington and Lee. USNWR is driving drunk.

Not really. W&L has been in the top 25 for most of the last decade.

To be fair, they had a decent stretch where it looked much more like freefall than random variation. And the last 5 years have shown a pretty extreme variation for a school ranked that high.

[diegoforlan10]

I would also like to hear some more discussion on the UIUC drop. Is it a big deal? Should one not even consider going there next year?

[Bronck]

I would also like to hear some more discussion on the UIUC drop. Is it a big deal? Should one not even consider going there next year?

If you had followed this thread at all, you would have learned that year-to-year fluctuations mean very little. Plus UIUC cooked their data, so the drop was obviously going to happen.

[rad lulz]

I would also like to hear some more discussion on the UIUC drop. Is it a big deal? Should one not even consider going there next year?

It's a big deal. I head employers in Illinois are refusing to hire their grads. Chicago employers are pulling out of OCI in droves.

[splitbrain]

I would also like to hear some more discussion on the UIUC drop. Is it a big deal? Should one not even consider going there next year?

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You can't see me but I am glaring at you SO HARD through my computer right now.

[tennisking88]

Also lol at Washington and Lee. USNWR is driving drunk.

Not really. W&L has been in the top 25 for most of the last decade.

To be fair, they had a decent stretch where it looked much more like freefall than random variation. And the last 5 years have shown a pretty extreme variation for a school ranked that high.

It was just 3 years of being ranked 30, 34, 30. For every other year that US News has ranked W&L, it has been T25.

[tlsfuntimes]

Can anyone do Davis & BC stats?

[kaiser]

Its sort of nice when your school keeps the same rank it had the year before. Its like being on an island of stability while the legal world around me (as far as students, and mostly 0L's are concerned) goes crazy.

[Big Shrimpin]

I need to talk to the guy who is of counsel across the hall from me who is a Harvard grad about his thoughts about Stanford overtaking Harvard.

I'll report back with his thoughts.

Ask him if he thinks his H degree led to becoming of counsel instead of partner. oh, teh lulz

Update: he said he regrets not going to Stanford instead of that TTT school

Prospective 0Ls: be warned.

[jk2011]

I would also like to hear some more discussion on the UIUC drop. Is it a big deal? Should one not even consider going there next year?

It's a big deal. I head employers in Illinois are refusing to hire their grads. Chicago employers are pulling out of OCI in droves.

LOL I hear they are shutting down OCI altogether