Take the money and Run; YS - CCNH? Forum

[Theopliske8711]

Oh, the int'l students who go back to their countries to reform the lives of the proles they'd left behind.

They probably could have gone to high positions either way, given that they probably already come from pretty wealthy backgrounds.

[rayiner]

In a real way, that's the big flame. We're all proles, even partners at V5's. We scrub dishes for the capitalists.

twist:the capitalists went to hls:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Blankfein

Yes, a couple of people snuck in from 30-40 years ago, back before corporate America standardized on the MBA.

You don't believe that those in M&A groups have the stand a good chance to break into the financial services sphere at some point in their careers anymore?

I don't know. I think it's very different than it was in 1981 when Blankfein did it, or even 2006-07.

[cotiger]

A major difference between YS and H that I can see is that H students on this board seem extremely impressed by the fact that they attend H.

eta: not all of them, of course. just more than at other schools.

[IAFG]

NU law students are obviously rarely on the business side of finance or involved in start ups...

[Theopliske8711]

A major difference between YS and H that I can see is that H students on this board seem extremely impressed by the fact that they attend H.

Yea, but there is a huge difference in sample size. We have many more HLS than we have YS.

[Blessedassurance]

hell,a couple of current 2L's are making waves with their new start-up:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/ ... il-privacy

Isn't this the definition of snow-flakey, though?

yes, it's unusual for current students to found start-ups while in school that gets this much traction from VC's, but founding a start-up after hls/having founded a start-up before hls is not that uncommon.

[cotiger]

A major difference between YS and H that I can see is that H students on this board seem extremely impressed by the fact that they attend H.

Yea, but there is a huge difference in sample size. We have many more HLS than we have YS.

True. Still, Y+S is close to as large as H. Also of course there are many H students on here who aren't like that.

[Blessedassurance]

Oh, the int'l students who go back to their countries to reform the lives of the proles they'd left behind.

They probably could have gone to high positions either way, given that they probably already come from pretty wealthy backgrounds.

for some, yes. but the harvard name opens a lot of doors internationally (for those who have other attributes which are admittedly not uncommon).

[rayiner]

this is to say nothing of the numerous, numerous entrepreneurs, and the international students who go back to their countries.

I don't know how you define "numerous." My other raging internet addiction besides TLS is Hacker News, which is full of start-up folks and VCs. Mentions of HLS don't rise above the noise floor. They're not "numerous" in any way, they're a tiny drop in the bucket. I know one HLS grad who did a start-up that's gotten some press, and I think the Harvard name definitely helped him raise VC funding, but he's the exception that proves the rule: law school graduates are basically a non-presence in that industry.

You're just rehashing the old: "a JD is a springboard to all sorts of interesting careers in business!" canard, which is just a total flame. A JD is a huge liability if you want to do business. Some exceptional people break into the business world despite their JDs.

[jk148706]

the harvard name opens a lot of doors

There it is

[dresden doll]

A major difference between YS and H that I can see is that H students on this board seem extremely impressed by the fact that they attend H.

Yea, but there is a huge difference in sample size. We have many more HLS than we have YS.

True. Still, Y+S is close to as large as H. Also of course there are many H students on here who aren't like that.

Nah, I think YS screens out people with delusions of grandeur much more successfully. The small class size must be very helpful.

[Humbert Humbert]

I honestly feel bad for the decent/reasonable kids at/heading to HLS, that this guy has appointed himself your spokesman ITT. I would literally cringe every time I opened this thread.

[dresden doll]

NU law students are obviously rarely on the business side of finance or involved in start ups...

Unprestigious worms.

[Blessedassurance]

this is to say nothing of the numerous, numerous entrepreneurs, and the international students who go back to their countries.

I don't know how you define "numerous." My other raging internet addiction besides TLS is Hacker News, which is full of start-up folks and VCs. Mentions of HLS don't rise above the noise floor. They're not "numerous" in any way, they're a tiny drop in the bucket. I know one HLS grad who did a start-up that's gotten some press, and I think the Harvard name definitely helped him raise VC funding, but he's the exception that proves the rule: law school graduates are basically a non-presence in that industry.

you do realize there are entrepreneurs involved in things besides tech start-ups right?

numerous is relative, by the way.

[cotiger]

the harvard name opens a lot of doors

There it is

FLYING OFF THEIR HANDLES

[IAFG]

NU law students are obviously rarely on the business side of finance or involved in start ups...

Unprestigious worms.

TBF it actually is rare, but considering the backgrounds we tend to have and the relationship with the B school, it's not something that never happens. E.g. Briteseed.

[IAFG]

numerous is relative, by the way.

<3 keep bein' you.

[Nelson]

HYS required for startups: http://www.lawschooltransparency.com/bl ... t/origins/

[rayiner]

this is to say nothing of the numerous, numerous entrepreneurs, and the international students who go back to their countries.

I don't know how you define "numerous." My other raging internet addiction besides TLS is Hacker News, which is full of start-up folks and VCs. Mentions of HLS don't rise above the noise floor. They're not "numerous" in any way, they're a tiny drop in the bucket. I know one HLS grad who did a start-up that's gotten some press, and I think the Harvard name definitely helped him raise VC funding, but he's the exception that proves the rule: law school graduates are basically a non-presence in that industry.

you do realize there are entrepreneurs involved in things besides tech start-ups right?

Sure, but right now the tech sector is where funding is being handed out like candy. It's where the people who are interested in entrepreneurship from HBS/GSB are going in disproportionate numbers. The fact that law graduates are almost non-existent in that space is very telling. Especially considering that it'd be much easier for a law graduate to pick up some coding skills and break into that space, than to break into more transitional entrepreneurial fields where not having a finance/business background would be an even greater liability.

[dresden doll]

Just looked up law schools of the people who co-founded a successful nonprofit I'm very familiar with in the early 2000s. CCN and MPBV. That's like a miracle, right?

[Blessedassurance]

You're just rehashing the old: "a JD is a springboard to all sorts of interesting careers in business!" canard, which is just a total flame. A JD is a huge liability if you want to do business. Some exceptional people break into the business world despite their JDs.

what industry? entrepreneurship?

[A. Nony Mouse]

Just looked up law schools of the people who co-founded a successful nonprofit I'm very familiar with in the early 2000s. CCN and MPBV. That's like a miracle, right?

Extremely impressive. It must have been really hard to stretch their feeble intellects so far.

[Blessedassurance]

Sure, but right now the tech sector is where funding is being handed out like candy. It's where the people who are interested in entrepreneurship from HBS/GSB are going in disproportionate numbers. The fact that law graduates are almost non-existent in that space is very telling.

there is funding for other kinds of businesses. yes, you're not getting 5 million for 20% stake for some fly-by-night app, but there's a whole world out there outside silicon valley.

i know like 5 people whose businesses have nothing to do with silicon valley and they do allright (all hls people).

[rayiner]

You're just rehashing the old: "a JD is a springboard to all sorts of interesting careers in business!" canard, which is just a total flame. A JD is a huge liability if you want to do business. Some exceptional people break into the business world despite their JDs.

what industry? entrepreneurship?

It's a huge liability if you want to pitch yourself as entrepreneurial, because by and large lawyers are exactly the opposite of entrepreneurial. They're tremendously risk averse. They break into heavily regulated industries a little bit, particularly finance, for the obvious reasons. In other industries, they just don't really have anything to offer. Legal research and writing skills are of very little use outside of the legal sector.

[09042014]

Why in the world would any VC or Angle investor give even one microfuck about where the founders went to law school? These are people who give UG dropouts tons of money.