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Re: Take the money and Run - Sticker = stupid

Post by 09042014 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:00 pm

dresden doll wrote:It's incomprehensible to me that a person's discomfort with debt somehow signals that they're just money hungry. Because, you know, those of us in PI have zero problem with the fact that we're in debt up to our eyeballs.

By the way, I'm basically a very special snowflake in that my job is of that unicorn national-advocacy-org-that-does-impact-lit variety, with decent pay, substantive assignments, guaranteed set raises each year (plenty of PI has been freezing salaries since 2009), excellent benefits and dream work hours/work life balance. It should tell you something that my posts aren't all cheer and rainbows. And I even like law and really care about our cause.
Can confirm that Dressy complains all the time about her unicorn job.

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Re: Take the money and Run - Sticker = stupid

Post by dresden doll » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:01 pm

IAFG wrote:No matter how hard DD tries to convince us otherwise, I'd like to do her job. But probs not for whatever it pays.
Yeah, I don't think you'd be crazy about the pay, and it's not even particularly bad; perfectly fine for NYC PI. Gotta give them props though for fantastic benefits. My biglaw boyfriend has been able to put more money towards his loans thanks to the awesome healthcare/zero need for extended childcare that we enjoy thanks to my job.

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Re: Take the money and Run - Sticker = stupid

Post by worldtraveler » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:02 pm

dresden doll wrote:It's incomprehensible to me that a person's discomfort with debt somehow signals that they're just money hungry. Because, you know, those of us in PI have zero problem with the fact that we're in debt up to our eyeballs.

By the way, I'm basically a very special snowflake in that my job is of that unicorn national-advocacy-org-that-does-impact-lit variety, with decent pay, substantive assignments, guaranteed set raises each year (plenty of PI has been freezing salaries since 2009), excellent benefits and dream work hours/work life balance. It should tell you something that my posts aren't all cheer and rainbows. And I even like law and really care about our cause.
As a fellow special snowflake, I concur.

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Re: Take the money and Run - Sticker = stupid

Post by IAFG » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:02 pm

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Oh you were on the superfund stuff then? That was the worst project. You should have ELPC'd it up. They had lobbying and impact lit.
No, it was drafting a "report" based on FOIAed info we couldn't actually get.

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Re: Take the money and Run - Sticker = stupid

Post by dresden doll » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:04 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
dresden doll wrote:It's incomprehensible to me that a person's discomfort with debt somehow signals that they're just money hungry. Because, you know, those of us in PI have zero problem with the fact that we're in debt up to our eyeballs.

By the way, I'm basically a very special snowflake in that my job is of that unicorn national-advocacy-org-that-does-impact-lit variety, with decent pay, substantive assignments, guaranteed set raises each year (plenty of PI has been freezing salaries since 2009), excellent benefits and dream work hours/work life balance. It should tell you something that my posts aren't all cheer and rainbows. And I even like law and really care about our cause.
Can confirm that Dressy complains all the time about her unicorn job.
I've been pretty spoiled, but if I had to identify a true drawback, having to live with the debt is definitely it. I stay up at night every so often stressing about what will happen if PSLF goes away.

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Re: Take the money and Run - Sticker = stupid

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:04 pm

worldtraveler wrote:
dresden doll wrote:It's incomprehensible to me that a person's discomfort with debt somehow signals that they're just money hungry. Because, you know, those of us in PI have zero problem with the fact that we're in debt up to our eyeballs.

By the way, I'm basically a very special snowflake in that my job is of that unicorn national-advocacy-org-that-does-impact-lit variety, with decent pay, substantive assignments, guaranteed set raises each year (plenty of PI has been freezing salaries since 2009), excellent benefits and dream work hours/work life balance. It should tell you something that my posts aren't all cheer and rainbows. And I even like law and really care about our cause.
As a fellow special snowflake, I concur.
And if you substitute fedgov for unicorn-national-advocacy-org-etc., so do I.

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Re: Take the money and Run - Sticker = stupid

Post by beachbum » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:12 pm

If nothing else, this thread has completely changed my perception of the type of people who can get in to Harvard.

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Re: Take the money and Run - Sticker = stupid

Post by 09042014 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:15 pm

beachbum wrote:If nothing else, this thread has completely changed my perception of the type of people who can get in to Harvard.
TLSers have always been super impresesed by it but it's really just people with 1-2 LSAT points more than CCN. Which means exactly dick all.

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Re: Take the money and Run - Sticker = stupid

Post by Theopliske8711 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:21 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
beachbum wrote:If nothing else, this thread has completely changed my perception of the type of people who can get in to Harvard.
TLSers have always been super impresesed by it but it's really just people with 1-2 LSAT points more than CCN. Which means exactly dick all.
Or not even. Some people here with equal stats to mine have gotten in. I'm honestly not envious at all; I'm perfectly happy with my circumstances and happy for them. But honestly, it's not that impressive.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by 09042014 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:22 pm

Isn't HLS like 1000 people a year?

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Re: Take the money and Run - Sticker = stupid

Post by cotiger » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:23 pm

beachbum wrote:If nothing else, this thread has completely changed my perception of the type of people who can get in to Harvard.
I was pretty underwhelmed at their ASW. A fairly large percentage of awkward kids. Lotsa kids with their parents. Actually a disturbingly large number of kids with their parents. Which isn't to say that UChi, for instance, was any better on the weirdness factor. But I definitely didn't come away with any zomgharvardsoimpressive feeling.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by IAFG » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:23 pm

It's not like H is anything actually impressive like Y or S.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by cotiger » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:25 pm

IAFG wrote:It's not like H is anything actually impressive like Y or S.
I really wish that I could have gone to Stanford's. Since they DGAF so much about scores, I feel like they just get to pick whoever they feel like the most interesting people overall are.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by beachbum » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:25 pm

IAFG wrote:It's not like H is anything actually impressive like Y or S.
Yeah, that's fair.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by 09042014 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:26 pm

I'm not sure any adcom can accurately judge prestige since they are perse losers.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by dresden doll » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:27 pm

Yeah, YS may be impressive because it's not like you just need the numbers, but plenty of people at CCN could've done HLS. And even more can now when competitiveness seems to be down all around.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by patogordo » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:27 pm

i'd rather to go to stanford than yale

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by Theopliske8711 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:28 pm

patogordo wrote:i'd rather to go to stanford than yale
This. Cali livin seems like so much fun.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by dresden doll » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:29 pm

I'll be honest: as a 0L, I'd probs have gone to YS no matter what.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by cotiger » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:30 pm

patogordo wrote:i'd rather to go to stanford than yale
ayup. can i get a Q-O-L.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by Theopliske8711 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:31 pm

dresden doll wrote:I'll be honest: as a 0L, I'd probs have gone to YS no matter what.
If I had the stats for Yale, it would mean either a Hamilton at CLS or Ruby at Chicago. No way in hell would I be able to turn down either. Making 160K and actually be able to put all of the net in the bank account would be fucking sweet.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by dresden doll » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:34 pm

Theopliske8711 wrote:
dresden doll wrote:I'll be honest: as a 0L, I'd probs have gone to YS no matter what.
If I had the stats for Yale, it would mean either a Hamilton at CLS or Ruby at Chicago. No way in hell would I be able to turn down either. Making 160K and actually be able to put all of the net in the bank account would be fucking sweet.
I'm not actually sure it works out that cleanly. You'd be surprised at how many people I knew who didn't get more money from CCN than they were looking at for HYS. Makes the decision super easy, of course.

I guess the CCN full ride would've been the only thing that could have induced me to turn down YS.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by cotiger » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:40 pm

Honestly, I think much of my irritation towards sticker-paying yhs prestige whores is due to the fact that because of them, yhs will never have to lower themselves to negotiating, and so I would never be able to justify myself actually going there.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by patogordo » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:43 pm

i mean i'm a prestige whore but at least i'm self-aware. it's the transparent euphemisms that are obnoxious.

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Re: Take the money and Run; HLS alumni weep 4 future

Post by cotiger » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:52 pm

patogordo wrote:i mean i'm a prestige whore but at least i'm self-aware. it's the transparent euphemisms that are obnoxious.
I'd definitely pay a premium to get to drop the H bomb or take a stroll in palo alto. But not that crazy shit they're demanding.

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