Applied in mid December. Not early, but not terribly late. No criminal problems. Only guess is a subpar PS. Wrote Why essays for Penn, UVA, Mich...aznflyingpanda wrote:Did you apply late? What was wrong with your application? You might be prime for a re-app.LS18 wrote:So I made a post about this, but figure I'd ask you all in here.
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Duke @ sticker
UIUC w/$100,000
Re-apply
Want to work in the Midwest. Would like big law ideally. Got WL'ed at CCMVP.
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Illinois isn't a bad option, but there should be a NW ($$) in there with those kind of numbers. I'd wait a year, that will make Northwestern like you even more.LS18 wrote:So I made a post about this, but figure I'd ask you all in here.
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tbf he mightve gotten the MVP waitlist trifectaLS18 wrote:Applied in mid December. Not early, but not terribly late. No criminal problems. Only guess is a subpar PS. Wrote Why essays for Penn, UVA, Mich...aznflyingpanda wrote:Did you apply late? What was wrong with your application? You might be prime for a re-app.LS18 wrote:So I made a post about this, but figure I'd ask you all in here.
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I think it depends on what you can do with your year off. If you have something interesting to do and will be able to save some money, then maybe re-apply.LS18 wrote:So I made a post about this, but figure I'd ask you all in here.
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I would not feel confident at all about going to UIUC if the goal is Chicago biglaw, regardless of the scholarship money.Nightrunner wrote:Wanting Midwest BigLaw (which really means Chicago, with medium markets in Minneapolis and St. Louis), Duke at sticker isn't a great option. Not bad, but not great.
If you have a job lined up, I'd wait the year. If not, consider the scholarship at Illinois - which at least gives you a line into Chicago.
My two cents.
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WVU - full Scholly
Retake my 161 (Practicing 9 points higher)
Notes: Promised a nice practice in WV, however, not sure if I want to directly go back to WV. Took the LSAT while taking the hardest UG schedule of my career and really think I can do much better. Age 22 about to graduate with my dual degree from UG, no debt incurred.
Retake my 161 (Practicing 9 points higher)
Notes: Promised a nice practice in WV, however, not sure if I want to directly go back to WV. Took the LSAT while taking the hardest UG schedule of my career and really think I can do much better. Age 22 about to graduate with my dual degree from UG, no debt incurred.
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Wow...this thread definitely moves faster than creating your own. Thanks all. 
Helm... I wouldn't be doing anything groundbreaking, but I would be able to save some money. Otherwise, would you take Duke at sticker over UIUC w/$$$ for the Midwest?
Helm... I wouldn't be doing anything groundbreaking, but I would be able to save some money. Otherwise, would you take Duke at sticker over UIUC w/$$$ for the Midwest?
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Yes, Duke over UIUC if you want Big Law.LS18 wrote:Wow...this thread definitely moves faster than creating your own. Thanks all.
Helm... I wouldn't be doing anything groundbreaking, but I would be able to save some money. Otherwise, would you take Duke at sticker over UIUC w/$$$ for the Midwest?
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Not that many Chicago firms OCI at Duke. But UIUC OCI was a joke last year. Will it get better? Who knows.LS18 wrote:Wow...this thread definitely moves faster than creating your own. Thanks all.
Helm... I wouldn't be doing anything groundbreaking, but I would be able to save some money. Otherwise, would you take Duke at sticker over UIUC w/$$$ for the Midwest?
I'd still take Duke though, because your chance at getting big law is about 4 times greater at Duke than Illinois. You may not get Chicago, but you'd get something.
If you really want Chicago, take a year off and apply to Northwestern and to UChi. People with your numbers occasionally get 20K/year scholarships to Northwestern. Also next year write a Why Michigan? essay and brown nose teh shit out of them.
Did you apply to NU this year?
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By midwest biglaw, are we talking Chicago or are we including some of the smaller markets like Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Indianapolis, Detroit, St. Louis, etc.?LS18 wrote:Wow...this thread definitely moves faster than creating your own. Thanks all.
Helm... I wouldn't be doing anything groundbreaking, but I would be able to save some money. Otherwise, would you take Duke at sticker over UIUC w/$$$ for the Midwest?
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Most Chicago firms don't go to Duke. But I bet the big firms would rather have a duke grad than a UIUC grad. The question is do they even interview the duke grads. And the answer is probably not.Nightrunner wrote:In Chicago?aznflyingpanda wrote:Yes, Duke over UIUC if you want Big Law.LS18 wrote:Wow...this thread definitely moves faster than creating your own. Thanks all.
Helm... I wouldn't be doing anything groundbreaking, but I would be able to save some money. Otherwise, would you take Duke at sticker over UIUC w/$$$ for the Midwest?
If this guy wants the midwest, he need to go to Uchi, Mich, or NU.
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What I have heard. I remember a story in the New York Times about a lot of Chicago biglaw firms focusing pretty much all their attention on UofC, NU, and Michigan, while leaving the local schools like UIUC in the dust.Desert Fox wrote:But UIUC OCI was a joke last year.LS18 wrote:Wow...this thread definitely moves faster than creating your own. Thanks all.
Helm... I wouldn't be doing anything groundbreaking, but I would be able to save some money. Otherwise, would you take Duke at sticker over UIUC w/$$$ for the Midwest?
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I say go to Illinois for big scholarship money. Since your GPA is set, and you don't have a lot of room to move up on LSAT, I don't think its worth the risk to postpone on the chance that you will get into Chicago or NU, (which are the only two better suited for your goals). This is unless you have a good job you could do for another year to rake in more $$$.
In terms of Duke vs. Illinois, I don't think the extra prestige you would get from Duke would help you enough in the Chicago Legal Market to make up for the difference in cash. Duke WOULD be better for Chicago Big Law, but the cost differential just isn't worth it IMO. That is unless you are comfortable practicing big law in the south. Then Duke *100000.
In terms of Duke vs. Illinois, I don't think the extra prestige you would get from Duke would help you enough in the Chicago Legal Market to make up for the difference in cash. Duke WOULD be better for Chicago Big Law, but the cost differential just isn't worth it IMO. That is unless you are comfortable practicing big law in the south. Then Duke *100000.
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Yea, midwestern T1s did not hold up well. UIUC, ND, and WUSTL OCI were shitshows.Helmholtz wrote:What I have heard. I remember a story in the New York Times about a lot of Chicago biglaw firms focusing pretty much all their attention on UofC, NU, and Michigan, while leaving the local schools like UIUC in the dust.Desert Fox wrote:But UIUC OCI was a joke last year.LS18 wrote:Wow...this thread definitely moves faster than creating your own. Thanks all.
Helm... I wouldn't be doing anything groundbreaking, but I would be able to save some money. Otherwise, would you take Duke at sticker over UIUC w/$$$ for the Midwest?
I'm curious if Fordham, UC Davis and Hastings, and GWU had the same problem.
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Did not apply to NU b/c I'm coming straight out of undergrad. Definitely would have been a top choice. Wrote the Why Michigan..actually spent the most time of any Why X? essay on that one. I also applied to Michigan at the end of November, earlier than the rest of my apps.Desert Fox wrote:Not that many Chicago firms OCI at Duke. But UIUC OCI was a joke last year. Will it get better? Who knows.LS18 wrote:Wow...this thread definitely moves faster than creating your own. Thanks all.
Helm... I wouldn't be doing anything groundbreaking, but I would be able to save some money. Otherwise, would you take Duke at sticker over UIUC w/$$$ for the Midwest?
I'd still take Duke though, because your chance at getting big law is about 4 times greater at Duke than Illinois. You may not get Chicago, but you'd get something.
If you really want Chicago, take a year off and apply to Northwestern and to UChi. People with your numbers occasionally get 20K/year scholarships to Northwestern. Also next year write a Why Michigan? essay and brown nose teh shit out of them.
Did you apply to NU this year?
Chicago is far and away the preference, but I'd be open to Milwaukee or Indy as well.Helmholtz wrote:By midwest biglaw, are we talking Chicago or are we including some of the smaller markets like Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Indianapolis, Detroit, St. Louis, etc.?LS18 wrote:Wow...this thread definitely moves faster than creating your own. Thanks all.
Helm... I wouldn't be doing anything groundbreaking, but I would be able to save some money. Otherwise, would you take Duke at sticker over UIUC w/$$$ for the Midwest?
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Stanford. It costs more but you almost cannot fail.lightbulb1986 wrote:how about
Stanford sticker ($210,000)
UT Austin at half tuition ($75,000)
both costs include COL. May or may not stay in Texas.
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Stanford. Why is this a question? What do you want to do? How likely do you think it is that you would desperately want to stay in TX?lightbulb1986 wrote:how about
Stanford sticker ($210,000)
UT Austin at half tuition ($75,000)
both costs include COL. May or may not stay in Texas.
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If you're a little more open to geography, I would say go Duke. Otherwise, gain a year of work experience, and reapply. You should be able to get one of Michigan/Northwestern, although not a sure thing.LS18 wrote: Chicago is far and away the preference, but I'd be open to Milwaukee or Indy as well.
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LS at you WL'd at Michigan? Write them a "I'll drop everything if you let me in" LOCI if so.
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Stanford!!! As previous posters have said, this isn't even close.lightbulb1986 wrote:how about
Stanford sticker ($210,000)
UT Austin at half tuition ($75,000)
both costs include COL. May or may not stay in Texas.
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Yeah, I've heard those may be convincing for people who potentially were YP'ed (not sure if I was). I was hoping for low T14 w/some money (or CC at sticker), and I doubt I'd have any chance at money if I got off Michigan's WL like that.Desert Fox wrote:LS at you WL'd at Michigan? Write them a "I'll drop everything if you let me in" LOCI if so.
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LS18 wrote:Yeah, I've heard those may be convincing for people who potentially were YP'ed (not sure if I was). I was hoping for low T14 w/some money (or CC at sticker), and I doubt I'd have any chance at money if I got off Michigan's WL like that.Desert Fox wrote:LS at you WL'd at Michigan? Write them a "I'll drop everything if you let me in" LOCI if so.
Yea prob not.
What kind of law do you want to practice.
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