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Re: Determing Elite Job Outcomes 250+ or 100+

Post by chuckbass » Fri May 30, 2014 11:50 am

Princetonlaw68 wrote:
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Princetonlaw68 wrote:(No the thing I did was not ad hominem. I made fun of his horse laugh, which was valid. I insulted his reasoning skills to be a dick. I attacked his LSAT score on the basis of his argumentation. I didn't attack his argumentation on the basis of his LSAT score. That would be ad hominem.)
Well, if you're asking what justifies my belief that people from all over want to work in DC/NYC and that this is not nearly as true for pretty much anywhere in the south, I could find a lot of info that supports this belief.
How does one attack an LSAT score?

I don't know, maybe by saying it's low? I had no idea, he could've gotten a 180. I just assumed it was low, and made fun of it, hoping I'd be right. Looks like I was.
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Re: Determing Elite Job Outcomes 250+ or 100+

Post by Danger Zone » Fri May 30, 2014 11:50 am

Princetonlaw68 wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Princetonlaw68 wrote:(No the thing I did was not ad hominem. I made fun of his horse laugh, which was valid. I insulted his reasoning skills to be a dick. I attacked his LSAT score on the basis of his argumentation. I didn't attack his argumentation on the basis of his LSAT score. That would be ad hominem.)
Making fun of his horse laugh as a way to counter his arguments in this thread is valid and isn't an ad hominem? WTF? In any case, that and insulting someone based on their LSAT score is low class. Don't do it again.
Well, if you're asking what justifies my belief that people from all over want to work in DC/NYC and that this is not nearly as true for pretty much anywhere in the south, I could find a lot of info that supports this belief.
What I'm asking is what supports your belief that a significant number of people who go to Vandy are coming from all over the country/not the south and do not intend to work in the south and are disappointed to find that Vandy places largely in the south. You've asserted this as the basis for your denigration of the school but haven't provided any evidence in support of that assertion.

No. It's not ad hominem. I made fun of his lsat score to be a dick. I said that because he made fun of me in the post before that. I was not using it as a way to further my argument, or detract from his argument. Again, not ad hominem.

I'm not trying to denigrate the school. I'm just saying it only places well in the south. That entire point was just a subpoint to support my argument that it's not all about "self selection." The school is a top rated school. If we compared it to other non T14 southern schools, (except maybe UT), we'd see that the percentage of people not from the south is much higher at Vanderbilt. People from all over go there. People from NY, CT, NJ, DC etc. would almost always prefer to live in the north. If you're from the north, ask some of your friends about this.

If you're looking for numbers, go compare a school like Fordham (a northern regional) to any comparable southern school, with that same idea where from the school you can really only get a job in that area, but it's pretty good for that area. You'll see that the geographic diversity at these lesser schools is much lesser. Why? People from the northeast want to work in DC, NY etc. not in TN.

As for the info that included the percentage of students in DC or NY, go compare the amount of kids from NY at Penn, GULC, really just about any T14, and you'll see the percentage of students ending up in NY is much higher than the percentage of students from NY/NJ. Why? People want to work in NY. A lot of the jobs are in NY. At Vanderbilt, the percentages are roughly equal, which means a lot of people from the north are not able to get NYC or DC or whatever.


I will say I think some of my posts are being taken the wrong way. All I'm saying is vandy isn't great for getting a job in the north. It's mostly a regional. No insult to them, they place comparably to a T14. If a northerner goes there and can't get a job back in NYC, that's his fault. Not the school's. Vanderbilt is a top and well respected school.
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Re: Determing Elite Job Outcomes 250+ or 100+

Post by Princetonlaw68 » Fri May 30, 2014 11:53 am

johnnyquest wrote:
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Princetonlaw68 wrote: (No the thing I did was not ad hominem. I made fun of his horse laugh, which was valid. I insulted his reasoning skills to be a dick. I attacked his LSAT score on the basis of his argumentation. I didn't attack his argumentation on the basis of his LSAT score. That would be ad hominem.)
Well, if you're asking what justifies my belief that people from all over want to work in DC/NYC and that this is not nearly as true for pretty much anywhere in the south, I could find a lot of info that supports this belief.
Speaking about someone and their horse laugh translating to a better LSAT seems to me like a personal attack. Why wouldn't you just try and refute the quantitative evidence that he supplied to make his point? And do it with you know....further evidence to support your claims.

I was doing that. Then he made fun of my post using his horse laugh crap, which was irrelevant. I hate to sound like a kindergartener, but he started it. I never would've said anything like that if he didn't resort to making fun of me without arguing against what I was saying. Read back and you'll quickly see how the irrelevant being a d*ck stuff started.

(In short, I'm happy to have an argument in which we only talk about relevant things. Once the other person diverges from that, I'm likely to as well.)

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Re: Determing Elite Job Outcomes 250+ or 100+

Post by Princetonlaw68 » Fri May 30, 2014 12:02 pm

scottidsntknow wrote:
Princetonlaw68 wrote:
Arboreal wrote:
Princetonlaw68 wrote:(No the thing I did was not ad hominem. I made fun of his horse laugh, which was valid. I insulted his reasoning skills to be a dick. I attacked his LSAT score on the basis of his argumentation. I didn't attack his argumentation on the basis of his LSAT score. That would be ad hominem.)
Well, if you're asking what justifies my belief that people from all over want to work in DC/NYC and that this is not nearly as true for pretty much anywhere in the south, I could find a lot of info that supports this belief.
How does one attack an LSAT score?

I don't know, maybe by saying it's low? I had no idea, he could've gotten a 180. I just assumed it was low, and made fun of it, hoping I'd be right. Looks like I was.
^um Nony, you can come back in here TYIA.

tattletale. What a nerd.

Princeton is making fun of me :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: Determing Elite Job Outcomes 250+ or 100+

Post by njdevils2626 » Fri May 30, 2014 12:09 pm

Princetonlaw68 wrote:
johnnyquest wrote:
johnnyquest wrote:
Princetonlaw68 wrote: (No the thing I did was not ad hominem. I made fun of his horse laugh, which was valid. I insulted his reasoning skills to be a dick. I attacked his LSAT score on the basis of his argumentation. I didn't attack his argumentation on the basis of his LSAT score. That would be ad hominem.)
Well, if you're asking what justifies my belief that people from all over want to work in DC/NYC and that this is not nearly as true for pretty much anywhere in the south, I could find a lot of info that supports this belief.
Speaking about someone and their horse laugh translating to a better LSAT seems to me like a personal attack. Why wouldn't you just try and refute the quantitative evidence that he supplied to make his point? And do it with you know....further evidence to support your claims.

I was doing that. Then he made fun of my post using his horse laugh crap, which was irrelevant. I hate to sound like a kindergartener, but he started it. I never would've said anything like that if he didn't resort to making fun of me without arguing against what I was saying. Read back and you'll quickly see how the irrelevant being a d*ck stuff started.

(In short, I'm happy to have an argument in which we only talk about relevant things. Once the other person diverges from that, I'm likely to as well.)
You've sounded like a kindergartener throughout the majority of this thread, so I don't know how accurate that statement is...

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Re: Determing Elite Job Outcomes 250+ or 100+

Post by Princetonlaw68 » Fri May 30, 2014 12:13 pm

johnnyquest wrote:
johnnyquest wrote:
Princetonlaw68 wrote:
I was doing that. Then he made fun of my post using his horse laugh crap, which was irrelevant. I hate to sound like a kindergartener, but he started it. I never would've said anything like that if he didn't resort to making fun of me without arguing against what I was saying. Read back and you'll quickly see how the irrelevant being a d*ck stuff started.

(In short, I'm happy to have an argument in which we only talk about relevant things. Once the other person diverges from that, I'm likely to as well.)
You've sounded like a kindergartener throughout the majority of this thread, so I don't know how accurate that statement is...

Thank you for that riveting contribution

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Re: Determing Elite Job Outcomes 250+ or 100+

Post by chuckbass » Fri May 30, 2014 12:13 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:In any case, that and insulting someone based on their LSAT score is low class. Don't do it again.
Princetonlaw68 wrote:I don't know, maybe by saying it's low? I had no idea, he could've gotten a 180. I just assumed it was low, and made fun of it, hoping I'd be right. Looks like I was.
Princetonlaw68 wrote:tattletale. What a nerd.
You were warned by a mod, yet you continue to be extremely disrespectful.

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Re: Determing Elite Job Outcomes 250+ or 100+

Post by Princetonlaw68 » Fri May 30, 2014 12:17 pm

scottidsntknow wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:In any case, that and insulting someone based on their LSAT score is low class. Don't do it again.
Princetonlaw68 wrote:I don't know, maybe by saying it's low? I had no idea, he could've gotten a 180. I just assumed it was low, and made fun of it, hoping I'd be right. Looks like I was.
Princetonlaw68 wrote:tattletale. What a nerd.
You were warned by a mod, yet you continue to be extremely disrespectful.

I just don't get why you're telling on me. I've had countless people on here get angry at me, but I've never seen anyone do that until you. I just found it funny and worth making fun of. You are taking my insults way too seriously. Are you actually insulted?

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Re: Determing Elite Job Outcomes 250+ or 100+

Post by Caesar Salad » Fri May 30, 2014 3:14 pm

Princetonlaw68 wrote:I just don't get why you're telling on me. I've had countless people on here get angry at me, but I've never seen anyone do that until you. I just found it funny and worth making fun of. You are taking my insults way too seriously. Are you actually insulted?
If I were you I would just stop. I realize that you won't and this post is pointless, but you are just coming across as an insufferable jackass. I guess you don't care about that, but I don't get why you'd want to join an online forum community and then portray yourself that way. I think my assessment falls with the majority of people reading this. YOLO though I guess.

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Re: Determing Elite Job Outcomes 250+ or 100+

Post by Princetonlaw68 » Fri May 30, 2014 3:29 pm

SeriousLehigh wrote:
Princetonlaw68 wrote:I just don't get why you're telling on me. I've had countless people on here get angry at me, but I've never seen anyone do that until you. I just found it funny and worth making fun of. You are taking my insults way too seriously. Are you actually insulted?
If I were you I would just stop. I realize that you won't and this post is pointless, but you are just coming across as an insufferable jackass. I guess you don't care about that, but I don't get why you'd want to join an online forum community and then portray yourself that way. I think my assessment falls with the majority of people reading this. YOLO though I guess.

I think a lot of people who probably would agree with me that it's absolutely hilarious that this guy is telling on me like we're in grade school are just not the type to post as much. I think a lot of people probably just find the conversation funny. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions though.

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Re: Determing Elite Job Outcomes 250+ or 100+

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Fri May 30, 2014 3:36 pm

Princeton, my opinion is that you're being a jackass, and that your argument "it wasn't an ad hominem because I wasn't using it to attack his argument, I was just insulting him totally apart from his argument" is disingenuous bullshit. And my opinion is also that somehow whenever you start these "school x is way worse than anyone here thinks it is and I know because I know" threads, you end up getting insulting and juvenile. Why on earth bring up someone's laugh in the on-topics? Why on earth insult someone's LSAT score (especially when you don't know what it is)? You might want to think about the impression you're making.

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